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The State ^ | January 11, 2005 | Gould Sheinin

Posted on 01/11/2005 1:33:44 PM PST by pratherdc

Sanford: Lower tax rate is top goal

By AARON GOULD SHEININ Staff Writer

Q&A WITH THE GOVERNOR

Lowering the S.C. income tax rate is his chief priority for the legislative session that opens today, Gov. Mark Sanford told The State.

This will be Sanford’s third legislative session as chief executive, and he says changing the culture of government is, in many ways, more important to him than advancing legislative ideas.

In the interview, Sanford, a Republican, also refuses to rule out a potential run for the White House in 2008, but he dismisses the idea as not being “on my radar screen.”

Here are excerpts:

QUESTION: You’ve outlined five top priorities for the legislative session, including income tax reduction, school choice and changes to Senate rules. Which is your top priority?

ANSWER: The income tax.

QUESTION: Does this one speak more to your basic idea of government?

ANSWER: The education thing does that. In various ways, they all do that. With the income tax, it’s very specifically aimed at, ‘How do you become more competitive?’

Very specifically, it’s tied to the fact that we’re really a state of small businesses. If we want to have impact in our job climate, we’ve got to do something for small business, the real backbone of job creation.

We’ve seen that it’s helped in the job creation front and the business creation front in the states that have given it a try.

QUESTION: How do you answer critics who argue the state’s income tax rate might be higher than other states, but if you consider the number of deductions and credits South Carolina offers, our income tax is no more burdensome?

ANSWER: The biggest impact you can have in the aggregate is lowering rates, is simply lowering marginal rates. (With the current system), you’re still saying the politician should ultimately pick the winner and loser, which is not something I philosophically believe.

QUESTION: Do you worry that the income tax proposal is getting overshadowed by focus on Put Parents in Charge?

ANSWER: That idea (income tax reduction) has been introduced and well debated, and it passed the House, and it would have passed the Senate had we been able to get it up for a vote. It doesn’t worry me a great deal.

QUESTION: There’s been a lot of barroom talk, writings in national publications, that you might be considered a candidate for president in 2008. Will you say yes or no, if you’re re-elected governor, whether you’ll seek higher office?

ANSWER: I’ve totally missed out on this conversation. You don’t hear me talking about it. All this barroom talk, meanwhile, I’m playing with the kids. As I’ve said before, this stuff is flattering, but it (running for president) is the last thing in the world on my mind. It’s not even on my radar screen.

QUESTION: You’ve struggled to get your legislative priorities through a General Assembly that is controlled by fellow Republicans. You’ve clashed openly with legislative leaders. If your goal is to get policy initiatives passed, it seems you’re going about it in a strange way. But you’re also smart enough to know the Legislature is not going to change its ways just because you ask it to. So what is your ultimate goal?

ANSWER: The big, big picture to me is limited government. At the end of the day, I think the people know how to spend their money better than somebody else.

We’re swinging the bat big time on each of these. Put Parents in Charge would be the first statewide (school) choice program in the nation. The income tax proposal would be a shift of money staying in the private sector. To pull those off, you have to have people thinking in that direction.

The biggest thing is trying to impact the debate that ultimately leads to change, and I think we’re getting there. It’s not about swinging the bat. It’s swinging the bat because of the difference it would make in South Carolina and our ability to compete in the rest of the world.

The actual outcomes, you know these different nuggets of legislation, are ultimately in the hands of a legislative body. They pass it or don’t pass it. All you can do is spell them out.

And that’s where some people get very confused. It ain’t Mark’s legislative agenda. At the end of the day, people in the General Assembly, Mark, (we) are going to be just fine. People in these far-off corners of South Carolina who are struggling to make it, they are not going to be just fine. It’s going to be more difficult to compete.

People who say, ‘I don’t want to pass it because it’s Mark’s agenda or someone else’s agenda’ miss the whole point of why we are here. We’re here supposedly to try and make people’s lives just a little bit better through the process of politics here in South Carolina. And politics can make people’s lives a whole lot better or a lot worse.

QUESTION: You seem to have made progress in changing the culture of government, as you call it, by making people ask different questions and look at things differently. But once you’re out of office, that culture could slip right back to where it was before you arrived. Passing legislative initiatives, changing state law, would be around much longer, it would seem.

ANSWER: Whether legislative change lasts longer, I’d respectfully disagree with you. Bobtailing, as a practice, is basically prohibited in the (state) constitution, yet it’s become a tradition and has been around for a long time. If we had said nothing, that, ‘I have to be quiet on that,’ one can very conceivably argue that the practice will not have been curtailed.

In terms of having an impact over time, you’re talking about a very significant change to the taxpayer over time because of the relative inefficient way of doing business that bobtailing incorporates. If you change that tradition, people say we don’t do that, that’s not our practice.

(Some examples of culture change, Sanford says, are less obvious but just as significant, such as his ending the practice of accepting a BMW for his family’s use.)

You get here, and there’s a BMW parked out front, and I said, ‘No, I think the Highway Department or Commerce could use that better than we could.’ I don’t see how the next governor can say, ‘I want the BMW back.’ You guys (in the media) would have great fun.

(Sanford says his decision last year to create an executive budget proposal that is more detailed and specific than those of his predecessors will have long-lasting impact as a change in culture.)

The executive branch has been historically separated from the budgeting process. The front-row seat in any legislative process is what are you spending and where are you spending it this year.

To say, no, not just a boilerplate, 30-page, here’s my wish list, but an operational budget that gets down into the nuts and bolts ... that’s a real world change, that not only has a direct impact this year, but a much bigger impact on future administrations that impacts the way we set budgets in South Carolina.

In 200 years, the executive branch really wasn’t an evolving process. Now it is.

Reach Gould Sheinin at (803) 771-8658 or asheinin@thestate.com.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2008; marksanford; sanford; sanford2008
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The more I get to know Gov. Sanford, the more I like him. Please visit http://draftsanford.cjb.net/ and encourgage Governor Sanford to run for President.

Best,

Stephen

1 posted on 01/11/2005 1:33:45 PM PST by pratherdc
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To: pratherdc

Got to admit that I don't know much about this guy, or Gov Owens. I'll have to do some research on both of them.


2 posted on 01/11/2005 1:41:19 PM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
Bill Owens, though he's been known to-on rare occasions-punk out in order to placate the p.c. crowd, has still done a magnificent job with the state of Colorado.

Despite the poor performance of Republicans-in his state-in the most recent general elections, I still think that, on balance, he's the best man for the job.

3 posted on 01/11/2005 1:45:04 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Oi! Oi! Is this a proper parliament?")
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4 posted on 01/11/2005 1:47:41 PM PST by killjoy (My kid is the bomb at Islam Elementary!)
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To: killjoy
RED FOR PREZ!

I'm on board.

5 posted on 01/11/2005 1:49:13 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Oi! Oi! Is this a proper parliament?")
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Postumhusly, of course.
6 posted on 01/11/2005 1:49:38 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Oi! Oi! Is this a proper parliament?")
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

Some great articles on Sanford:

http://acuf.org/issues/issue15/040703news.asp
http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200406280927.asp
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/9/27/181058.shtml
http://www.sanfordforgovernor.com/news.asp?action=detail&id=1772&name=In%20the%20News
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/weyrich/050107

You will love this guy!!!


7 posted on 01/11/2005 1:50:55 PM PST by pratherdc
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To: pratherdc

I like Mark Sanford.He is a great Governor, a great fiscal conservative and reformer. He is not a social conservative and his position on illegal immigration is unacceptable.His constant support for McCain is also troubling.We must have a true fiscal and social conservative running in 08.We must not divide our Reagan wing in half(fiscal vs social)Sanford is certainly unacceptable to the Social wing.We must have a true Reagan conservative in 08.


8 posted on 01/11/2005 3:47:59 PM PST by Gipper08
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To: pratherdc; RockinRight

ping!
See previous posts!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1317742/posts


9 posted on 01/11/2005 5:05:30 PM PST by Babsig ("And things that should not have been forgotten, were lost." -LOTR)
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To: pratherdc

BTW - ton of spyware on the download on that web page.


10 posted on 01/11/2005 5:08:12 PM PST by Babsig ("And things that should not have been forgotten, were lost." -LOTR)
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To: pratherdc

Sanford Rules!!


11 posted on 01/11/2005 5:13:39 PM PST by RockinRight (Sanford for President in '08!)
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To: dubyaismypresident; jmc813; Jaysun; AVNevis; KevinDavis; traviskicks; gab1279; Ogie Oglethorpe; ...

Ping!


12 posted on 01/11/2005 5:15:02 PM PST by RockinRight (Sanford for President in '08!)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Owens is good but Sanford's better.


13 posted on 01/11/2005 5:15:38 PM PST by RockinRight (Sanford for President in '08!)
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To: Gipper08

Not a social conservative???

He's gotten 'A' ratings from National Right to Life? What are you smoking???

And-his immigration stance is mediocre, but not bad. His congressional record shows him as against amnesty programs.

Dunno why he likes McCain though.

BTW, he IS a Reagan Conservative.


14 posted on 01/11/2005 5:17:31 PM PST by RockinRight (Sanford for President in '08!)
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To: Gipper08

Sanford holds true to Republican principles on other issues, as well. While President Bush was echoing John Kerry and Al Gore's position on background checks at gun shows, Sanford was fighting them vigorously in Congress. While President Bush was parroting Kerry's desire to see the assault weapons ban renewed, Sanford was helping lead the fight against unconstitutional gun bans. While Bush promised to sign most gun bills that land on his desk, Sanford was signing a repeal of his state's one-gun-a-month law, making South Carolina a much friendlier place to gun owners and collectors. His time in Congress earned him an "A" rating from both the National Rifle Association and the Gun Owners of America. He was endorsed by the "We Vote Pro-Life" Political Action Committee and won praises from the American Conservative Union as the "Most Conservative Governor in America."

That's from the Draft Sanford in 2008 page at

http://www.petitiononline.com/msan2008/petition.html


15 posted on 01/11/2005 5:19:24 PM PST by RockinRight (Sanford for President in '08!)
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To: killjoy

I would have been disappointed if I read the replies to this post, and didn't see a picture of Redd Foxx in there somewhere! Thanks!


16 posted on 01/11/2005 5:24:00 PM PST by GreenHornet
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17 posted on 01/11/2005 5:43:29 PM PST by killjoy (My kid is the bomb at Islam Elementary!)
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To: pratherdc; killjoy
I heard this is gonna be the big one!

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

18 posted on 01/11/2005 5:46:00 PM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Gipper08
Sanford is certainly unacceptable to the Social wing.

He's certainly pro-life. What social positions of his are unacceptable to you?

19 posted on 01/11/2005 6:28:08 PM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: pratherdc; All

If Sanford runs, I'm supporting him.. To be hinest I prefer a Govenor over a Senator..


20 posted on 01/11/2005 6:36:17 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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