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Rumsfeld-McCain feud grew after summer lunch
The Washington Times ^ | 01-10-05 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 01/10/2005 4:54:32 PM PST by GoldenOrchid

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1 posted on 01/10/2005 4:54:32 PM PST by GoldenOrchid
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To: GoldenOrchid

Deck 'em Rummy!


2 posted on 01/10/2005 4:59:44 PM PST by zzen01
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McPain is just blowing smoke out of his rectum.


3 posted on 01/10/2005 5:06:10 PM PST by jocko12
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To: GoldenOrchid
The senator has hurt Mr. Rumsfeld's standing in Washington by, among other things, saying in December that he had "no confidence" in Mr. Rumsfeld.

McCain's big mouth has created a more positive impression of Rumsfeld in my mind.

4 posted on 01/10/2005 5:08:03 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Re-elect Rossi in 2005!)
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a noncompetitive plan by the Air Force to lease refueling jets from Boeing Co. for a cost that could reach $30 billion. The more that Mr. McCain, a senior member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, looked into the deal, the worse he said it smelled. He started demanding documents — including internal e-mails of Air Force Secretary James Roche and others — but the Pentagon initially stonewalled. Defense sources say the White House drew up a letter in response that restricted access to Mr. McCain, who could only read the documents, not copy them or take notes. "The letter was completely insulting to the senator," a defense official acknowledged later. Darleen Druyun, the Air Force official and later Boeing executive who principally negotiated the deal, pleaded guilty in federal court to a conflict of interest and is serving a nine-month prison sentence.
5 posted on 01/10/2005 5:19:10 PM PST by GoldenOrchid
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I like Rum and I don't like McCain.

But I'm dubious about "privatizing" the Air Force's refueling activities. I would be curious to know a little more about how certain folks at the Pentagon decided renting was better than owning.

Unfortunately, the article is focused on the personality issue and ignores the details of the basic disagreement. And if push comes to shove, I trust Rum more than I do McCain on almost every level.


6 posted on 01/10/2005 5:20:14 PM PST by marron
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"Darleen Druyun, the Air Force official and later Boeing executive who principally negotiated the deal, pleaded guilty in federal court to a conflict of interest and is serving a nine-month prison sentence. "

Uh-oh, I missed that line.

7 posted on 01/10/2005 5:22:45 PM PST by marron
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To: GoldenOrchid

Maybe Rummy should have asked if McCain remembered the Keating Five scandal. Or asked him what kind of deal he made with clinton to get the DEA off his wife's back. Or asked him what the payoff was for selling his fellow POW/MIAs down the river.

McCain posing as an Untouchable is worth a laugh.


8 posted on 01/10/2005 5:23:18 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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How's that temper problem, McInsane?


9 posted on 01/10/2005 5:27:25 PM PST by MonroeDNA (The US should get out of the UN.)
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McCain posing as an Untouchable is worth a laugh.

It sure is. Whenever he wraps himself around an issue you can bet the same sort is in his closet.

10 posted on 01/10/2005 5:27:49 PM PST by Dolphy
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I am not a supporter of McCain but I must give him a standing ovation for shutting down the Boeing deal. It stunk of corruption and it was because of him and only him that this deal was sunk.


11 posted on 01/10/2005 5:28:54 PM PST by taxesareforever
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While your assesments are correct, this corruption did happen and someone is now spending time in Prison for it. I am a firl beleiver that Fellow Conservatives should be the ones to Police ourselves. Say what you will about McCain, what caught my eye was this No-BID scandal, and what might happen if it becomes a big issue, yet again.


12 posted on 01/10/2005 5:30:28 PM PST by GoldenOrchid
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I suspect the enemy did something...something dreadful and permanent...to McCain when he was a POW. And it is all coming out now.


13 posted on 01/10/2005 5:31:14 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "...dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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McCain's big mouth has created a more positive impression of Rumsfeld in my mind.

Every time McCain attacks the adminsitration, I know they're right and it's just more grunting from the rare High Sonoran Desert White RINO.

14 posted on 01/10/2005 5:33:20 PM PST by pierrem15
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15 posted on 01/10/2005 5:35:44 PM PST by IPWGOP (I'm Linda Eddy, and I approved this message... 'tooning the truth!)
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To: taxesareforever

I very seldom agree with McCain but he was dead on right on this issue with the Boeing Tanker deal -- it was a very bad deal for the AF IMHO!


16 posted on 01/10/2005 5:36:25 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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U R not alone here. Blind support is not a good thing. I agree with you, either we bring corruption out in front or the Dems will do it for us.


17 posted on 01/10/2005 5:38:12 PM PST by GoldenOrchid
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Immediately after 9/11 the Air Force had a big push to replace its over-streched and ageing tanker force. This part was reasonable, even the no-bid aspect of it (who else is going to get the bid, Airbus? talk about giving money to the enemy!).

What was wrong about it was the fact that Boeing decided it needed to cement the deal by effectively bribing the procurement officials by means of fat post-DOD employment and 'consulting' contracts.

Boeing has effectively lost the contract for the moment and the DOD officials directly responsible have been or are being prosecuted.

What McCain wanted is more (possibly innocent) personnel scalped as a means of having Rumsfeld kiss the Royal Senatorial Arse.

Rumsfeld told him where to go.

18 posted on 01/10/2005 5:38:17 PM PST by pierrem15
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19 posted on 01/10/2005 5:45:58 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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In Arizona, there are many of us who feel that McCain does a terrible job of representing us. But, so far, his cozy deal with the Old Media and his ability to hide behind his status as a POW have kept him in office.

There was a recall attempt against him, but it was short circuited and died with 9-11.

20 posted on 01/10/2005 5:47:11 PM PST by marktwain
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