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Proof of ZOT- Did the Dems show or prove Fraud?
1/9/05 | Compassionate Conservative

Posted on 01/09/2005 1:46:35 PM PST by compassionconserv

I try to stay atop the news and somehow this issue slipped past me. The Dems have brought up a very troubling issue before the House and Senate. They accused the Republican party of committing fraudulent acts that allowed George Bush to win this election. They stood up one after the other and claimed that this election was stolen.

I caught a part of this on C-span. I wasn't aware of any fraudulent claims in this election since it was clear that the President won this election by an overwhelming majority. I sniffed around and found a link to the inquiry led by Rep. Conyers (D). I read this document and discovered an alarming fact. By all appearances, our party did committ fraud in this election. It looks as if we suppressed votes and intentionally altered ballot totals to produce a result which favored our party. It shows that the Sec. of State Blackwell was the orchestrator of this fraud. It shows a great many things... but it proves nothing.

This document is nothing but innuendo and circumstantial evidence. There is no basis for a challenge and there was no call to object to the certification of this vote. That puzzled me. Why would the Dems challenge the vote and then not follow through with a formal challenge?

Is it because they do not want to risk civil war? No.

Is it because they don't want to hurt the war effort? No

Is it because they know that they are outnumbered? Yes.

They have no chance at a challenge. Our party rightly holds the power of all three branches of government. Our party took on this responsibility when it became clear that the Democrats were intent upon ruining this country. Our party has done more for this country in 4 years than they have in the past 50 years.

If you read the Conyers document, a clear case of fraud has been laid out. The proof is lacking but the conclusions you draw from this information are pretty damning. It looks bad. That was my first reaction. In fact, I was a bit outraged. I then sat down and tried to put this in perspective.

For arguments sake, let's say that we did "rig" this election. Let's say that our party did everything that they say we did. Okay, we fixed an election. So what?

If we did fix this election it was only because it was broken. Look at the facts. The media is biased against our party. We have no way of even getting out our message through the the most trusted means by which information is relayed. How does this constitute a fair and balanced playing feild? This is fraud.

They used our war of Freedom and Democracy in Iraq as a weapon of mass deception. Everyday, the only news reported out of Iraq is dead Americans soldiers and dead Iraqi babies. This not only continued through our election process, it intensified. Every day they used intimidation to try and control the vote. They used the prisoner scandal to say that the President was a monster. They even tried to claim that Iraq was not linked to Al-Qeada when it is clear that there is a definite link between Zaquari and Bin Laden. Do you believe this link just sprung up over night? No, Zaquari was there before this war and they know it but still lied.

They used the heroes of Democracy and Freedom as a tool to further thier misguided goals. They tried to say we were criminals for invading Iraq and freeing millions of people. They tried to impune our soldiers with lies and suggestions of inhumane treatment, "torture". For me, a Democratic President is torture, you could snap a picture of my face if Kerry won and see torture. They painted us a monsters and asked the people to consider this when people voted! They had only lies to base thier decision. The people began to believe we were monsters. What rational person would vote for monsters? This was the Democratic con-game, this was a fraud.

They used registration drives to cover the real fraud. The real fraud wasn't done by us. The real fraud was the "get-out-the-vote" registration campaigns they ran. They recruited thousands of people to go into inner city areas to scare the hell out of the millions of Negroes and poor. They went in and set up a gigantic psycological campaign. They told these people that the reason they are poor and the reason they are ignorant is George Bush. They didn't tell them the truth. They used lies and terror to goad these unfortunates to sign up and vote in record numbers. The success of this campaign was unparralled in history. The problem is, this is fraud. A lie is a fraud. A fraud is a lie. They go hand in hand. One begets the other. When they go in and tell people who do not participate in our country that this time, they Vote or Die? What manner of Democracy is this? This is them saying, vote for us or Die. This is fraud because it is a lie that furthers thier goal of stealing an election.

If we did perpetrate fraud, though it has not been "proven", it was only to offset the fraud that they tried to perpetrate on the American people and on our Democracy. Republicans are the educated, the indepentdant, the powerful and the strong. A Republic is not about the will of the people, this is not even a constitutional right. A Republic is a government that protects people and the common good in the name of the people. Those who choose to participate should be able to understand the complex decisions that affect our country. To shepard the ignorant and goad them into supporting something that they do not understand is more than a fraud, it's a crime. If we did committ "fraud", I, for one, am glad. Thank God, someone has the balls to finally stand up and let our voices, the voices of compassion and reason, lead this country into the future. In this world we need people who are willing to win at all costs, even cheating if necessary. We are in a war, in case the Dems forgot. What sort of leader do you think will inspire fear in the hearts of other nations, a person who wins at all costs or a person who loses by virtue? They know that they have finally come against someone who will rip the very foundation out from underneath them if they stand in our way. Isn't that the message they need to be getting?

If we did rig this election, and there is no evidence at all to support this claim, I would like to say a big thank you for those patriots who risked thier lives, thier fortunes and thier freedom to further our cause. You are true Americans and I salute you! All men are created equal but with God's grace, we do not have to stay that way! Long live George Bush! God bless the Republic.

Elect Gov. Blackwell '06, Ohio, he will deliver!


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gagorama; newbie; puhleeze; registeredtoday; troll; zotzotzot
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1 posted on 01/09/2005 1:46:35 PM PST by compassionconserv
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To: compassionconserv

If we did rig this election, and there is no evidence at all to support this claim, I would like to say a big thank you for those patriots who risked thier lives, thier fortunes and thier freedom to further our cause. You are true Americans and I salute you! All men are created equal but with God's grace, we do not have to stay that way! Long live George Bush! God bless the Republic.

Elect Gov. Blackwell '06, Ohio, he will deliver!




The GOP didnt rig this election. What the hell are you talking about?


2 posted on 01/09/2005 1:48:27 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Out of Baghdad!!!! But still boycotting boycotts)
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To: compassionconserv

It's a load of unsubstantiated crap. But you knew that.


3 posted on 01/09/2005 1:48:45 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: compassionconserv
You joined today to thank Republican election cheats?

Yeah, right.

4 posted on 01/09/2005 1:52:24 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SandyInSeattle

Are you surprised ?? Look at what went on in Washington state with the gov race, absolute fraud by the dems and they say, let's move on.
The democrat party is corrupt to the core and anyone can make a charge, but prove it !!


5 posted on 01/09/2005 1:54:14 PM PST by Pedrobud (Get out of the UN)
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To: compassionconserv; Admin Moderator

Well, troll, I've been following all the "compelling evidence" Conyers has cited, and find it to be anything but convincing.

Things must be quiet over at DU today, since you have time to post this pile of crap.

Admin Mod, cleanup needed in aisle 5.

Zot!!!


6 posted on 01/09/2005 1:56:33 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: compassionconserv; MeekOneGOP; Jet Jaguar; King Prout

"For arguments sake, let's say that we did "rig" this election. Let's say that our party did everything that they say we did. Okay, we fixed an election. So what?"

What are you sniffing?..It's bad for your brain.


7 posted on 01/09/2005 1:56:48 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: TASMANIANRED; Conspiracy Guy

Here kitty!


8 posted on 01/09/2005 1:58:40 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: compassionconserv; Jet Jaguar; Conspiracy Guy; Howlin

ping ping ping!!

Smell Test needed!!!

The trolls are active today


9 posted on 01/09/2005 1:59:54 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Out of Baghdad!!!! But still boycotting boycotts)
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To: Pedrobud
Are you surprised ??

Surprised that our side would be accused of fraud? Nope! That's called projection... they accuse us of what they do themselves.

No, I'm smelling the distinctive aroma of fried troll...

10 posted on 01/09/2005 2:00:51 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: MikeinIraq

Someone needs fumigating!


11 posted on 01/09/2005 2:01:19 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: compassionconserv

????

12 posted on 01/09/2005 2:02:32 PM PST by pipecorp (I am, therefore, I think... At least I think I think, maybe I thought I think, or I think I thought.)
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To: MEG33; KoRn

yes yes yes they do!!!

Where is Korn and his nuclear Zot at??


13 posted on 01/09/2005 2:02:51 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Out of Baghdad!!!! But still boycotting boycotts)
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To: compassionconserv

What ever happened to Blackwell's top ten worst dressed list?


14 posted on 01/09/2005 2:03:36 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: No Blue States

Check out this one..


15 posted on 01/09/2005 2:10:42 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MikeinIraq

On standby awaiting ZOT ;-) The keys are in, and I'm waiting for orders!


16 posted on 01/09/2005 2:10:53 PM PST by KoRn
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To: MeekOneGOP

Troll Ping!


17 posted on 01/09/2005 2:11:32 PM PST by KoRn
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To: KoRn; Old Sarge

"For arguments sake, let's say that we did "rig" this election. Let's say that our party did everything that they say we did. Okay, we fixed an election. So what?"

What more do we need..Fire at will!


18 posted on 01/09/2005 2:13:17 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: compassionconserv; Admin Moderator

hrmn.

something smells a bit off on this one.

ageant provocateur?


19 posted on 01/09/2005 2:13:19 PM PST by King Prout (Halloween... not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: KoRn

Ready on the right.

Ready on the left.

Ready on the zotting line.


Commence Zotting!


20 posted on 01/09/2005 2:13:28 PM PST by Ole Okie
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