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Flashback: They Fought With What They Had

Posted on 01/08/2005 11:14:33 PM PST by Quaid

I know this is a month old now, but it bothers me how Rumsfeld is still misquoted about the whole exchange in Kuwait w/ Spc. Wilson.

I ran across this lithograph by John D. Shaw this weekend, and found thought it worth sharing:

Late November 1941, Clark Field, Philippine Islands: The U.S. Army Air Corps prepares for days of infamy ahead. Meagerly-equipped crews of the 19th Bomb Group prepare their B-17s for the day’s practice missions, unaware that in mere days, Clark Field and other nearby U.S. bases would be savaged by enemy surprise attacks. Many would be taken prisoner, and some of those shown here, such as Colin Kelly and Harl Pease, would gain tragic fame. Lithographs of John D. Shaw’s original oil painting honor this gallant group, available with signatures of some of these great veterans who inspired our nation, doing so much with very little, fighting with what they had.

Of course, we'll rarely see the entire Rumsfled response:

I talked to the General coming out here about the pace at which the vehicles are being armored. They have been brought from all over the world, wherever they’re not needed, to a place here where they are needed. I’m told that they are being – the Army is – I think it’s something like 400 a month are being done. And it’s essentially a matter of physics. It isn’t a matter of money. It isn’t a matter on the part of the Army of desire. It’s a matter of production and capability of doing it.

As you know, you go to war with the Army you have. They’re not the Army you might want or wish to have at a later time. Since the Iraq conflict began, the Army has been pressing ahead to produce the armor necessary at a rate that they believe – it’s a greatly expanded rate from what existed previously, but a rate that they believe is the rate that is all that can be accomplished at this moment.

I can assure you that General Schoomaker and the leadership in the Army and certainly General Whitcomb are sensitive to the fact that not every vehicle has the degree of armor that would be desirable for it to have, but that they’re working at it at a good clip. It’s interesting, I’ve talked a great deal about this with a team of people who’ve been working on it hard at the Pentagon. And if you think about it, you can have all the armor in the world on a tank and a tank can be blown up. And you can have an up-armored humvee and it can be blown up. And you can go down and, the vehicle, the goal we have is to have as many of those vehicles as is humanly possible with the appropriate level of armor available for the troops. And that is what the Army has been working on.


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1 posted on 01/08/2005 11:14:33 PM PST by Quaid
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2 posted on 01/08/2005 11:50:57 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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And it’s essentially a matter of physics. It isn’t a matter of money. It isn’t a matter on the part of the Army of desire. It’s a matter of production and capability of doing it.

So how were they able to increase production after that comment?

3 posted on 01/09/2005 12:13:24 AM PST by TheOtherOne
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Good post Quaid.

There is no doubt in my military mind that Rumsfeld wants to make SNAFU obsolete.

That in and of itself makes him worthy of the job.

He is the best man for SecDef and the whiners can just go puke.Who needs them?

4 posted on 01/09/2005 12:21:56 AM PST by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!)
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"So how were they able to increase production after that comment?"

When a bureaucracy intently focuses on any one item, improvements can always be made. The trick of good management is to effect improvements in all areas. Rumsfield's focus is not just tactical vehicle armor. It includes: combat vehicle armor, bullets (we're running out), troop strength, rotation, all the other theaters, the homeland, to name just a few. In my view, intense press focus on just one area grossly distorts the overall picture.

5 posted on 01/09/2005 6:20:49 AM PST by norwaypinesavage
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The whole press core and the media couldn't carry Sec. Rumsfeld'S Water.
To paraphrase Gen. William Techumseh Sherman, "I'd sooner fight these news people than the fine Southern men we are fighting".


6 posted on 01/09/2005 6:21:56 AM PST by chatham
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To: M. Espinola

bttt


7 posted on 01/09/2005 8:01:59 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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