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Wall Street Journal Online ^ | 01/08/05 | HEATHER MAC DONALD

Posted on 01/08/2005 8:13:33 AM PST by Maigret

Too Nice for Our Own Good
Democrats undermine efforts to gather information from captured terrorists.

BY HEATHER MAC DONALD
Saturday, January 8, 2005 12:01 a.m.

Senate Democrats decided to turn the confirmation hearings of Alberto Gonzales into a referendum on the war on terror--specifically, on the Bush administration's decision that the Geneva Conventions do not apply to al Qaeda terrorists. They implied that the denial of prisoner-of-war status to al Qaeda fighters resulted in the torture of prisoners in Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison.

This "torture narrative" is gospel truth among elite opinion-makers, yet it is false in every detail. It relies on ignorance of the actual interrogation techniques promulgated after 9/11. However spurious, the narrative has had a devastating effect on interrogators' ability to get intelligence from detainees.

Soon after the Afghanistan fighting began, Army interrogators realized that their part in the war on terror was not going according to script. Pentagon doctrine, honed in the Cold War, held that 95% of prisoners would break upon straightforward questioning. But virtually no al Qaeda or Taliban detainee was giving up information--not in response to direct questioning, and not in response to Army-approved psychological gambits for prisoners of war.

Some al Qaeda fighters had received resistance training, which taught that Americans were strictly limited in how they could question prisoners. Failure to cooperate, they had learned, carried no penalties and certainly no risk of torture--a sign, al Qaeda said, of American weakness. Even if a prisoner had not previously studied U.S. detention policies, he soon figured them out. "It became very clear very early on to the detainees that the Americans were just going to have them sit there," explains an Afghanistan interrogator.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gonzales; oef; terrorists; torture
Never forget how the Democrats ran this 'war' prior to 9/11 and how they continue to aid and abet the enemey today.
1 posted on 01/08/2005 8:13:33 AM PST by Maigret
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To: Maigret
How could we forget....they sling this political dung at us everyday.

I do like the writer's approach, though. Our folks need to simply respond to silly arguments of equivalency by suggesting that the speakers apparently don't know enough about interrogation methods to speak intelligently on the subject. They need to be dismissed for the imbeciles they are.

2 posted on 01/08/2005 8:26:50 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Maigret

Bump for Heather MacDonald!


3 posted on 01/08/2005 8:33:04 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan
Invoking the FR Laura Inghram, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin rule


4 posted on 01/08/2005 8:45:58 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Maigret

We would be two years or more ahead in the War on Terror if the Democrats hadn't decided to use it as a tool to bash the President and his cabinet during election seasons. Shameful.


5 posted on 01/08/2005 8:51:42 AM PST by JennysCool (QuarkXPress has caused an error in QuarkXPress. QuarkXPress will now close.)
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To: Maigret
Today the democrats are out of power and bitching about the patriot act and the treatment of terrorist.We can be assured that when the democrats regain power they will turn the same patriot act against conservative and Christian groups while ignoring muslims completely.I'm in favor of the patriot act as long as it's only used to fight terrorist and nobody else.
6 posted on 01/08/2005 8:57:15 AM PST by rdcorso (Did I mention I was in Vietnam where I lost my backbone? Spineless John)
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To: Maigret; lonevoice

As the dems continue to undermine the efforts to win the war on terror, they are handing the terrorists the tools that they need to prolong the war and cause further injury and suffering to those Americans and our allies who are directly involved in it. We all know that this is a purely political battle that the dems wage against our president and the consequences be damned. They will stop at nothing to get President Bush impeached over this whole "prisoner abuse scandal," mark my words.


7 posted on 01/08/2005 9:02:44 AM PST by Pride in the USA
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To: Maigret

Unholy Alliance
by David Horowitz
Regnery Publishing, Inc.; ISBN: 089526076X
Hardcover - 256 pages (September 2004)


In this tour de force on the most important issue of our time, David Horowitz, confronts the paradox of how so many Americans, including the leadership of the Democratic Party, could turn against the War on Terror. He finds an answer in a political Left that shares a view of America as the “Great Satan” with America’s radical Islamic enemies. This Left, which once made common cause with Communists, has now joined forces with radical Islam in attacking America’s defenses at home and its policies abroad. From their positions of influence in the university and media culture, leftists have defined America as the “root cause” of the attacks against it. In a remarkable exploration of the “Mind of the Left,” Horowitz traces the evolution of American radicalism from its Communist past to its “anti-war” present. He then shows how this Left was able to turn the Democratic Party presidential campaign around and reshape its views on the War on Terror.

Horowitz’s Unholy Alliance, writes John Haynes, the noted historian of American Communism, “is an insightful, brilliant examination of the mental world of the radical left. Horowitz shows how today’s radicals, unwilling to reflect on the internal flaws that destroyed Marxism-Leninism from within, have embraced an all-consuming nihilism in its place. This has led them to a hatred of American institutions and a solidarity with Islamic terrorists that makes the radical left more properly regarded as dangerous than loony.”

Unholy Alliance is an eye-opening book that should unsettle conventional assumptions and reveals why intellectuals and political leaders who applaud Michael Moore are no laughing matter. As Harvey Klehr, author of Venona: Decoding Soviet Espionage in America, writes, “The world Communist movement may be moribund, but its habits of mind and ideological fantasies have not disappeared. This is a fascinating and depressing account.”


8 posted on 01/08/2005 9:18:49 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Maigret

When the next 9-11 occurs, this "don't scare the prisoners" crap will vanish -- at the cost of thousands of more American civilian lives.


9 posted on 01/08/2005 9:22:53 AM PST by pabianice
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To: Maigret
It relies on ignorance of the actual interrogation techniques promulgated after 9/11.

It also relies on ignorance of the Geneva convention. Denying the detainees POW status does not leave them in limbo. There is a section in the Geneva convention outlining how to treat enemy combatants. They don't get as many perks as POWs are supposed to, but they are still covered.

That said, I'd hand them over to Israel and say "do with them what you will. Let me know what you find out."

10 posted on 01/08/2005 9:34:07 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Let them eat cake.)
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To: Pride in the USA

Did you get a chance to hear any audio clips of Sen. Kennedy during the Gonzalez confirmation hearing? He was complaining about our interrogators using water torture. I kid you not. His brain, being twice as pickled as his liver, failed to grasp the irony.


11 posted on 01/08/2005 9:46:46 AM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: Maigret
It's time to ignore the CRATS and do what we have to. We have the Presidency, Congress, and the House. Now lets rip butt.
12 posted on 01/08/2005 10:39:10 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Logical me
It's time to ignore the CRATS and do what we have to. We have the Presidency, Congress, and the House. Now lets rip butt.

I do believe that that is exactly what Bush plans to do, I hope fellow Republicans are going to help him do just that.

13 posted on 01/08/2005 12:01:32 PM PST by Maigret
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To: anniegetyourgun

BTTT


14 posted on 01/08/2005 12:06:04 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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