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Mayor says immigration keeps Mexico from social unrest
MEXIDATA.INFO ^ | 12/28/2004 | Manuel DurĂ¡n

Posted on 01/01/2005 11:45:46 AM PST by nanak

Inequality in Mexico has not resulted in social unrest due to, among other things, Mexicans immigrating abroad and the responsibility of citizens, said Andrés Manuel López Obrador, the Mayor of Mexico City.

In agreeing with Cardinal Norberto Rivera Carrera, on the need to change Mexico’s economic model before there is a civil conflict, López Obrador said that the only explanation for people in Mexico not having protested in light of more than 20 years of economic stagnation is because escape valves, such as immigration, have been found.

(Note: López Obrador said this in response to a reporter who asked about recent statements by Cardinal Rivera, the Archbishop of Mexico, who warned of conceivable social disorder if changes are not made in Mexico’s economic model.)

“But how else can one explain 20 years without economic growth, (with) jobs not being created, and political stability being maintained without having had social unrest?” López Obrador asked rhetorically.

He explained that while the annual departure of 500,000 Mexicans to the U.S. is not what is best stability has been maintained.

”That which is depopulating the country, that is leaving women, children and senior citizens in the towns because the younger people must leave, is not what is best. Of course that represents the failure of the economic policy,” López Obrador said during his morning press conference.

The effects of migration are twofold, López Obrador said. On one hand the pressure is removed with regard to zero economic growth, and on the other those who are in the U.S. send about US$17 billion to Mexico annually.

”That helps to reactivate the economy, but clearly it is not due to economic policy,” he explained.


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1 posted on 01/01/2005 11:45:47 AM PST by nanak
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To: nanak

What does it say about a nation when everyone with gumption and a compass can't wait to head north?


2 posted on 01/01/2005 11:48:50 AM PST by hershey
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To: hershey

Maybe the Mexicans need a little "social unrest."


3 posted on 01/01/2005 11:51:43 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Without a little "social unrest" there won't be any changes.


4 posted on 01/01/2005 11:55:34 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: nanak

So we should ruin our country so they avoid social unrest? Anyway, presumeably the most productive and hard working are the ones that make it here. Therefore, the argument could be made that by allowing them in we are preventing Mexico from getting its act together.


5 posted on 01/01/2005 11:56:08 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: nanak

So stopping them at the boarder will actually help them in the long run. Why clean your house when you can live at the neighbors.


6 posted on 01/01/2005 11:59:27 AM PST by txroadhawg (Don't believe any statistics unless you made them up yourself)
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To: nanak

Well, of course! Mexican nimrods leave Mexico and enter the USA. Basically it's a criminal and unemployment drain for the Mexican society.


7 posted on 01/01/2005 12:01:20 PM PST by Kurt_D
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To: Rodney King

Time to go Spanish elite huntin'. This Mexican illegal immigration thing is not going to stop until the Spanish elite is booted out of power and the Indians who are the majority get a chance to develop their country with natural resources that rival our own. (5th biggest nation in oil supply.)

It's a burden on our taxes and it's a burden on the Mexican people, this situation they have.


8 posted on 01/01/2005 12:01:25 PM PST by TypeZoNegative (Isn't it ironic that the spleen, most useless organ in our body is also on the left side of our body)
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To: nanak
Bend over and take it America.

Although he is incapable of articulating a grownup reason for his bizarre need to erase our borders, the Vincente Fox cabin boy we call a president appears unwilling to let anything get in his way on this issue, least of all some trifling oath of office.

9 posted on 01/01/2005 12:01:49 PM PST by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: Rodney King

So we should ruin our country so they avoid social unrest? Anyway, presumeably the most productive and hard working are the ones that make it here. Therefore, the argument could be made that by allowing them in we are preventing Mexico from getting its act together.

Yes we are doing Mexico no favors by letting their people illegally come to the US....only delaying the inevitable...its like not punishing a child, down the road the problems only get worse....


10 posted on 01/01/2005 12:08:44 PM PST by rolling_stone
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If the leaders of both Party's mainline would give truth a chance it would be sooooo much better. Immigration keeps Mexico from social unrest.

We know that is one of the main reasons for not enforcing the immigration laws.

Give truth a chance, Mr President, et al.

True, there are some jobs that some Americans won't do.

It's also true that you are creating an artificial labor glut driving down wages for jobs Americans will gladly do and do well. Not all Americans are the lazy dopes that plague some small businessmen, look harder for good employees, gentlemen. Or, as some of you are wont to tell us worker bees, move someplace where you find the opportunities are better.

Mr. President, real compassion is a regime change in Mexico.

11 posted on 01/01/2005 12:10:42 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: nanak; hershey; Brilliant; bahblahbah; Rodney King; txroadhawg; Kurt_D; TypeZoNegative; ...

The best thing we could do for Mexico (in the long run) is deport all the illegal aliens in the US (the vast bulk of whom are Mexican nationals) and seal our borders.

Imagine all those Mexicans -- who have tasted and grown accustomed to the America's freedom, opportunity, and prosperity -- being thrown backwards into Mexican society. Talk about social unrest! That's what it will take to fix Mexico internally.


12 posted on 01/01/2005 12:21:19 PM PST by SpyGuy (Liberalism is slow societal suicide.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Give truth a chance, Mr President, et al.

Heck, that's not even an option.
The PRI didn't maintain one-party rule over Mexico all these decades by telling the truth.
Sheeeeesh, that would RUIN Dubya's plans for a similar plutocracy.
"La Republica Banana del Norte" (or something like that)

13 posted on 01/01/2005 12:21:51 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: nanak

I think its time to start donating to the Chiapas and other revolutionary groups in Mexico... If the Mexican consulates have gained so much power in the border states, I say its time to cut their balls off at home.


14 posted on 01/01/2005 12:23:00 PM PST by BurbankKarl (LI)
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To: dagnabbit

"the Vincente Fox cabin boy we call a president"

hahaha..made me chuckle...


15 posted on 01/01/2005 12:26:04 PM PST by dakine
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To: nanak

I've spent some time in Mexico in years past. Its problems stem from the economic theory that continues to this day,
socialism. It is, for the most part, a dirty place because no one is allowed to own anything unless they are well connected and bribe the right functionaries. As an example, for a person to cut down one tree, even one "privately owned", one needs a "permiso" from an office in the capital, Mexico City, and there are police on the look out for anyone cutting trees without that "permiso".
The government owns everything. The elites to whom I've talked pride themselves on the degree of "social justice" in their country and cannot figure out why anybody would want to leave.


16 posted on 01/01/2005 12:28:07 PM PST by Shisan ("The law is the true embodiment of everything that's excellent...")
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To: nanak
”That helps to reactivate the economy, but clearly it is not due to economic policy,” he explained.

Funny, he 'explained' it this way just after defining it as BOTH a political and an economic policy that brings roughly 17 billion US dollars into mexico each year.

18 posted on 01/01/2005 12:54:04 PM PST by norton
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To: SpyGuy

I agree. Immigration allows Mexico to practice "steam control"--letting out pressure that get built up. Money from illegals in the USA also help matters. Too bad we get stuck with the bill. If immigration wasn't an option, then they'd have to actually fix their internal problems. The same can be said of the Arab world.


19 posted on 01/01/2005 1:09:35 PM PST by rbg81
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To: nanak
The actual inscription on the Statue Of Liberty may be a big part in our immigration problem. The first line reads "Give me your tired,your poor, Your huddled masses,yearning to breathe free". I would rather have it read in part saying "Give me your(LEGAL)tired, ect.ect.!

I believe Tom Tancredo has the right stuff needed to hold the line on solving our immigration problems. His attention to detail is what is needed with so much that is at stake! The damage being done will determine if he can change the outcome being secretly agreed upon in direct opposition to the expressed will of We The People!

20 posted on 01/01/2005 1:11:44 PM PST by winker
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