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Times: Hillary's Toughest Opponent 'Herself'
Newsmax.com ^ | 12/25/04 | unknown

Posted on 12/26/2004 2:43:52 AM PST by beyond the sea

New York Sen. Hillary Clinton is already the frontrunner for her party's presidential nomination in 2008.

But to win the general election, she'll have to overcome opposition from a significant number of voters who absolutely can't stand her.

Survey after survey shows that approximately one-third of New Yorkers has a negative opinion of Clinton, the New York Times said Saturday.

"The voters who disapprove of Clinton are numerous and unshakable, and they have been around so long that they have a name in political circles. Hillary haters."

The former first lady's negative image is largely driven by the perception that she traded on her husband's marital misconduct to gain power and influence in government.

While Mrs. Clinton has largely overcome that image with her constituents, outside of New York the percentage of Hillary haters remains problematically high.

In a recent Marist College Institute for Public Opinion survey, roughly 4 of 10 Americans said they disapprove of her.

"There's work for her to do nationally," Marist poll director Lee Miringoff told the Times. "Beyond her appeal to the Democratic base, there is a need for her to build bridges to reach out to moderate Republicans and independent voters if she hopes to succeed."

Mrs. Clinton, however, remains undeterred.

Asked recently whether her divisive image has Republicans hoping that she becomes the Democrats' next presidential nominee, the former first lady told NBC's "Today Show," "We have a president who is quite polarizing - and very successful, I might add."


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To: beyond the sea

Dont worry the media elites and all of Hollywood will be pouring an ocean of perfume on that pig...

But then again in politics all things are relative..and for sale

imo


41 posted on 12/26/2004 4:33:44 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: G.Mason
"I think for me, the sickest and scariest kind of rage is the Hillary Clinton kind of rage. You know, the perpetual permafrost smile she wears that's hiding a well of fury deeper than Barry White's voice during a bout of pneumonia."

-- Dennis Miller

42 posted on 12/26/2004 4:38:44 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: beyond the sea

Let's see...the last time Hillary and Bubba were together in the White House she threw ashtrays and broke lamos in her fits of temper.

As POTUS she would have better things on which to vent her anger...like the football.


43 posted on 12/26/2004 4:39:41 AM PST by shibumi ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - John Galt)
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To: spodefly; garylmoore
That's the "Vagina Vote" ...

"At a minimum Hillary was Bill's defender and sexual enabler. At maximum, she was actually a co-abuser of these exploited women she should have defended as her feminist sisters." -- The Hillary Blitz, By Lowell Ponte, | June 10, 2003

44 posted on 12/26/2004 4:40:55 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: shibumi
Let's see...the last time Hillary and Bubba were together in the White House she threw ashtrays and broke lamps in her fits of temper.

Let's see the last time Hillary and Bubba slept together was at R. Reagan's funeral service.

;-)

45 posted on 12/26/2004 4:43:24 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: beyond the sea; joesnuffy; G.Mason; anniegetyourgun; ODDITHER; bandleader; Mr. Bird; Route101; ...

If Hillary Clinton's New York state Listening Tour had been any further scripted, it would have to have been registered with the Writers Guild.

She'll be given the love-in treatment that the snivelling pawn Tim Russert gave her about a year ago, as he sucked up to her and purred like a little frightened tub of conman goooo!

We have established that New York is a special case, furthermore she had the majesty and favor-bestowing power of the presidency behind her (and what better a way to say: "I'm sorry" than with the gift of a senate seat?). But a presidential candidate must endure a hectic schedule of appearances, to vast and varied audiences, and those all across the country, with numerous speeches delivered under all manner of conditions, some of them quite trying and exasperating and often while exhausted or cranky.

That screeching, grating voice makes for terrible microphone under the best of circumstances. Lord only knows what manner of choice cuts El Rushbo and friends could collect and play back for our edification and amusement over the course of a bruising campaign. She already has a long record of snubbing people, letting loose tirades and letting slip her smiley mask. Can you imagine the opportunities for a cock-up on camera even with everyone but Fox News and talk radio eager to carry her train? Hell, by '08 people will probably have digital video cameras mounted in their eyeglass frames.

Furthermore, Dave Horowitz and his crew have brilliantly tied all the Soros connections and organizations into his "Shadow Party" concept. This has just been luridly substantiated with that recently revealed memo wherin several of his "527" minions baldly state that they "own" the democrat party. If this is true then it will be dragged even more insanely to the Left. The Party of Abortion and Gay Marriage will have Drug Legalization, Euthanasia, World Government, Age of Consent Lowering and a whole raft of looney Amerikka-hating causes added to it's platform. The thought that the party might be controlled by this sinister-accented James Bond villain may or may not have played a role in this election. It most certainly will in '06 and '08. I think it's safe to say that Hillary knows that's a recipe for electoral self-immmolation. Whether she and Soros get along well now may be beside the point. Sooner or later they may have to wage battle royale for control. In addition, four years from now there may finally be a slate of primary contenders unafraid to take her and her lackeys on.

46 posted on 12/26/2004 4:45:42 AM PST by sinanju
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To: beyond the sea

The rest of that Don Imus parody "The First Lady is a Tramp":

She always takes top, when she fornicates,
Gets really cranky, when she menstruates,
Prefers to stand up, when she urinates,
That's why the (former) first lady is a tramp!

She's sophisticated, and so very well read,
Doesn't go to the ballet, likes pro wrestling instead,
She made Vince Foster shoot himself in the head,
That's why the (former) first lady is a tramp!

I could go on, but.......


47 posted on 12/26/2004 4:50:27 AM PST by elcid1970
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To: beyond the sea
But to win the general election, she'll have to overcome opposition from a significant number of voters who absolutely can't stand her.

And considering the info that's continuing to come out about the Toons, it's an ever increasing significant number. The Toons, unlike fine wine, do NOT improve with age.

48 posted on 12/26/2004 4:50:49 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: beyond the sea

Hill's being characterized as one of the big winners of '04. Obama, too. I guess it's the RAT dream ticket.


49 posted on 12/26/2004 4:50:56 AM PST by hershey
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To: beyond the sea
Hillary Clinton was jeered and booed by thousands gathered at Madison Square Garden

Then they edited the booing out of the released CD. No media bias here....

50 posted on 12/26/2004 4:52:42 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: beyond the sea
" -- Dennis Miller"

As you have dutifully posted, many of us are aware of the "essence" of Hillary.

Her demeanor is a look into her soul. It is black.

As a partner of mine used to state, a leopard can't change it's spots.

Hillary thinks only of Hillary, and what is good for Hillary.

She is a world socialist (perhaps far worse) and is working towards the destruction of the United States as we know it.

Though our Founding Fathers saw fit to escape the chains and shackles of old Europe, Hillary and millions of others, wish to return us to subjugation.

Were one to listen closely to JD Rockefeller, from W.Virginia, as an example, you can detect the sounds of the elitist snobbery that I refer.

Senator Rockefeller is a believer that there is a "ruling class" and they, by some imaginary right, control the "masses", much like feudal Europe.

It is not only Hillary unfortunately. There are many of this ilk we must be ever skirmishing with to keep our freedoms.

51 posted on 12/26/2004 5:01:15 AM PST by G.Mason ("Liberty means responsibility. That’s why most men dread it". — George Bernard Shaw)
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To: beyond the sea

Congenital liar . . and people are supposed to believe all this about-face "conservative position" thing she is doing now in order to get what she wants - power?


52 posted on 12/26/2004 5:02:16 AM PST by Twinkie
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To: Caipirabob
"Everyone remember when the word was that Hillary didn't stand a chance in New York for the Senate? Senator Hillary has a plan, the people in place and the power."

I understand not wanting to underestimate her, but I also remember the crap the left was trying to spout about Kerry being such a good closer. Remember that most of the "She's a formidable force to be reckoned with" crowd is in the blue Counties (not even States).

Maybe it will come down to using scare tactics on conservatives who ordinarily would not vote to come out against her in 2008, but I'm not buying it until then.

Between now and 2008 we're going to see all kinds of articles about conservatives should not take her lightly, but I'm chalking them up to lib reporters trying to make her something she's not (which is a viable candidate), and various other testing the waters garbage.

53 posted on 12/26/2004 5:02:33 AM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: beyond the sea
Someone peed in the snow behind the Whitehouse. They spelled "Clinton Sucks". Bill Clinton was so mad he ordered the Secret Service to find the culprit. Two weeks went by and they came back with an answer. "We have good news and bad news" said the agent to Clinton. "The good news is that it was Al Gore that peed in the snow. The bad news is that it was Hillary's handwriting!"

Hey FReepers, don't forget to sign up to be a Friend of Hillary and get your free bumper sticker.

http://www.friendsofhillary.com/

I got mine and it cost them 37 cents for a stamp and more money to print the bumper sticker. When the proper time comes, it will go on my truck with a big black "NOT" printed across it. Let's help the Friends of Hillary spend their money.

54 posted on 12/26/2004 5:08:08 AM PST by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: beyond the sea
"I have to confess that it's crossed my mind that you could not be a Republican and a Christian." - First "Co-President" Lady Hillary R. Clinton, source: Richmond Times-Dispatch, page A-10, March 1, 1997

THAT my FRiend is a keeper!! That has to be stored and brought back out and played loudly in 2006 when she tries to re-gain her Senate seat. It won't mean anything to the libs and dim heathens in NY, but that will ruin her chances if she is foolish enough to try for POTUS in 2008.

I hope she does runs for POTUS. Beating her will be a blast and it will shred anything good thats left about the klintoon legacy. (Theres nothing good about that legacy to begin with, but this would be the final big media campaign for the klintoons and it would be full of all their scandals). Therefore it would be the last thing most people ever hear about them.

They will be as irrelevant as Jimmy Carter, and every time you hear something about them people will say "Are those idiots still even alive? I thought they died years ago"

55 posted on 12/26/2004 5:13:56 AM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: sinanju
" ... Lord only knows what manner of choice cuts El Rushbo and friends could collect and play back for our edification and amusement over the course of a bruising campaign ... "

And who among us can ever forget ...

"Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have helped you," Sen. Clinton said. "We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

Hillary Clinton
June, 2004

56 posted on 12/26/2004 5:17:00 AM PST by G.Mason ("Liberty means responsibility. That’s why most men dread it". — George Bernard Shaw)
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To: sinanju
with numerous speeches delivered under all manner of conditions, some of them quite trying and exasperating and often while exhausted or cranky. ---- yes, look what it did to dear Teraaaayza when she got cranky and exhausred!

That screeching, grating voice makes for terrible microphone under the best of circumstances. Lord only knows what manner of choice cuts El Rushbo and friends could collect and play back for our edification and amusement over the course of a bruising campaign. --- yes.... that is an ace in the hole for us -- that 'Horrible Hillarrhea the Hun' voice. Remember her in Iowa and at the Convention, and "the I'm sick and tired" schreeeech!!!

She already has a long record of snubbing people, letting loose tirades and letting slip her smiley mask. -- Yes you're right, but she'll be protected as much as possible from showing her true colors. I wouldn't put it past her to fake an illness or an injury, and then spend from July through October in a hospital avoiding scrutiny and absorbing gobs of empathy from the media morons!

Furthermore, Dave Horowitz and his crew have brilliantly tied all the Soros connections and organizations into his "Shadow Party" concept. -- yes but how many voters in the middle KNOW that?

The Party of Abortion and Gay Marriage will have Drug Legalization, Euthanasia, World Government, Age of Consent Lowering and a whole raft of looney Amerikka-hating causes added to it's platform. -- Hillary will not let it happen, imo.

The thought that the party might be controlled by this sinister-accented James Bond villain may or may not have played a role in this election. It most certainly will in '06 and '08. -- I think something may happen to him to make him disappear. (wishful thinking?)

I think it's safe to say that Hillary knows that's a recipe for electoral self-immmolation. Whether she and Soros get along well now may be beside the point. Sooner or later they may have to wage battle royale for control. -- Yep, if he's still around.

In addition, four years from now there may finally be a slate of primary contenders unafraid to take her and her lackeys on. -- I doubt it. Her machine is incredibly well engineered and funded. It's going to be interesting.

********

Like Kerry's "Cheney's Daughter is a Lesbian" and Teraaaaaayza's, "Laura Bush Never had a Real Job", and Kerry's "That SOB knocked me down, I don't fall down." --- I think those kinds of things played a HUGE part this time around, and I think they will have to play a large role next time around!

Maybe we can hope that Hillary says a few things like this: "I have to confess that it's crossed my mind that you could not be a Republican and a Christian." -- Hillary R. Clinton, source: Richmond Times-Dispatch, page A-10, March 1, 1997

57 posted on 12/26/2004 5:20:19 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: elcid1970
That's pretty crude.

LOL!

58 posted on 12/26/2004 5:21:17 AM PST by beyond the sea (A man who says he can see through women is missing a lot.)
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To: beyond the sea
MISSUS CLINTON ENTERS POST-ELECTION MORALITY-PLAY FRAY

POST-ELECTION POSITIONING:THE LEFT CONTINUES TO DEMONSTRATE ITS UNFITNESS IN REAL TIME

HAROLD ICKES: on winning the presidency by terrorizing white women

 
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"If you look at white women, and I think that was the key to this election, Kerry won 45% based on the exit polls--but they're generally in agreement--Kerry won 45%, Bush won 55% of white women. By contrast, Bush won only 45% of white women in 2000, so he upped is percentages by 10 points. In 1996, bill clinton won 48% of white women compared to Bob Dole's 43%. That is a huge, huge difference. I don't think you can lay all that at the doorstep of moral values. I think that this president unabashedly and abjectly took the issue of terror and used it to terrorize... white women."

HEAR HAROLD ICKES
Washington Journal
Nov. 8, 2004
C-SPAN



"Crucial to this protective wall was the secret police, a group of private detectives hired to protect hillary and 'Saturday night bill.' Their tactics included digging up dirt on women who might be linked to bill in order to cow them into silence. There is even some evidence of possible physical intimidation."

HEAR DICK MORRIS




 

There is reason to believe that he is a rapist ("You better get some ice on that," Juanita Broaddrick says he told her concerning her bit lip), and that he bombed a country to distract attention from legal difficulties arising from his glandular life, and that... [f]urthermore, the bargain that he and his wife call a marriage refutes the axiom that opposites attract. Rather, she, as much as he, perhaps even more so, incarnates Clintonism

GEORGE WILL
SLEAZE, THE SEQUEL




 

Connecticut Rep. Chris Shays said on a talk radio show Wednesday that, based on secret evidence he reviewed during the impeachment controversy, he believes President Clinton raped Juanita Broaddrick, not once, but twice.

Talk-show host Tom Scott of Clear Channel Broadcasting, New Haven (WELI 960) asked Shays about the mysterious impeachment "evidence room," prompting the GOP moderate to say that Broaddrick "disclosed that she had been raped, not once, but twice" to Judiciary Committee investigators.

Shays, who is often hailed by the New York Times for his independent judgment and good sense, found the evidence compelling:

"I believed that he had done it. I believed her that she had been raped 20 years ago. And it was vicious rapes, it was twice at the same event." Asked point blank if the president is a rapist, Shays said, "I would like not to say that it way. But the bottom line is that I believe that he did rape Broaddrick."

HEAR CHRISTOPHER SHAYS
'Shays Shocker Clinton Raped Broaddrick Twice'
National Review Online
By NR staff
8/02/2000





The rape took place while Bill was running for governor. Hillary came bursting into the room to talk to two people, one of whom I personally know.

She said "You won't believe what this [expletive] did now. He tried to rape some b*tch."

It was the job of these two to squelch the story.

doug from upland to Sean Hannity,
WABC, 10/16/00




"It's no longer acceptable to say that the abuse and mistreatment of women is cultural. It should be called what it is: criminal."

Hillary Clinton
addressing the UN, 3.4.99




 

"Who is Juanita Broaddrick? I've never heard of her!" cried Betty Friedan, the founder of modern feminism. Friedan's outburst came at last Friday's conference, entitled "The Legacy and Future of Hillary Rodham Clinton." Held at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. D.C., the event offered a chilling microcosm of an angry, divided America.

For nearly an hour, a five-woman panel had been debating whether Hillary qualified as a "feminist heroine." I thought Broaddrick's claim of having been raped by Hillary's husband had some bearing on this point, so I broached the subject during the question-and-answer period. Friedan's dyspeptic denial followed.

Was Friedan telling the truth? Maybe. And maybe all those millions of Germans who professed ignorance of the death camps were telling the truth too. The problem is, having admitted her ignorance, Friedan showed no interest in exploring the matter further. And that was the problem with the Germans too.

Totalitarian impulses flourished at the conference. Taking a page from Soviet psychiatry, some Clintonites suggested that Hillary hating might be a mental illness.

Richard Poe
The Hillary Conspiracy




[Hillary Clinton] began by insisting that the entire Middle East region work to socially and politically enfranchise women. "Human rights are women's rights," she said.

Though some Middle Eastern nations have taken small steps in the right direction, Clinton said women and girls are consistently marginalized in all aspects of society....

Clinton described herself as "one of the early voices speaking out against the treatment of women by the Taliban in the 1990s...."

Clinton recommends U.S. foreign policy shift
The Tufts Daily
Patrick Gordon
November 11, 2004





"Gay marriage was an overwhelming factor in the defeat of John Kerry... With one decision of one Supreme Court, all of a sudden we have a constitutional amendment designed, I think, to whip people up, to inflame them, make them stop thinking about other issues, [the result of which was] "an astonishing turnout among evangelical Christians who were voting on the basis of moral values.... I do not believe either party has a monopoly on morality or truth."

bill clinton
Hamilton College, Utica, N.Y.
Wednesday, Nov. 10, 2004
NewsMax.com









he post-election pose of Harold Ickes, the clintons, and the entire Left--denying both the reality of the security mom and the utter (and deliberate) failure of the clintons to have stemmed the burgeoning threat of terrorism during the eight years they had the constitutional and moral duty to do so--is almost as amusing as it is telling.

That the Left now regards as its savior these two despicable utter failures, who are, in fact, the proximate cause of their blowout last Tuesday, says everything we need to know about the defunct, defective, decayed political organization that is today's Democrat Party.

Ickes', the clintons', and the entire Left's ludicrous argument--that Bush won reelection by terrorizing white women--turns reality on its head and exposes leftist putrescence with noxious precision.

Their argument is the familiar one, simply an extension of the clintons' legacy of myopia and egoistic expediency. That is, it is an extension of the clintons' failure to comprehend-- or, arguably worse, their refusal to acknowledge--the horrific peril that threatens our very existence.

Never mind the presidency.
These idiots are demonstrating in real time why they must never again occupy any position of power in America.


COPYRIGHT MIA T 2004  


59 posted on 12/26/2004 5:21:29 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: beyond the sea

Yes, it is. The one thing she can't get tucked, lifted, and dyed is her hands.


60 posted on 12/26/2004 5:23:51 AM PST by libstripper
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