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To: pabianice
"In the first reported crash of the military's next generation fighter jet, an F/A-22 Raptor slammed into the ground and exploded during takeoff at Nellis Air Force Base Monday afternoon."

I think this statement is incorrect. I remember during testing an F22 having a strange instability on takeoff where it went up and down in sort of a sine wave before crashing. Nobody was hurt in that case. If I remember correctly it turned out to be a software problem.
2 posted on 12/21/2004 12:48:00 PM PST by Moral Hazard (With a pickle mind we kick the nipple beer.)
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To: Moral Hazard
"The only other reported accident involving the F-22 was a non-fatal crash landing that occurred during testing and development of the aircraft at Edwards Air Force Base in 1992."

Ooops, guess I should read the whole articles before I post.
3 posted on 12/21/2004 12:49:19 PM PST by Moral Hazard (With a pickle mind we kick the nipple beer.)
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To: Moral Hazard

Them computer bugs can be deadly!


4 posted on 12/21/2004 12:51:18 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Moral Hazard; pabianice

> I remember during testing an F22 having a strange
> instability on takeoff where it went up and down
> in sort of a sine wave before crashing.

That was the YF-22 prototype, April 25, 1992.

PIO (Pilot-Induced Oscillation) due to an unfortunate
coincidence of the computer flight control laws and
the reactions of the pilot. Not at all uncommon in
early flights of fly-by-wire a/c.

PIO was my first thought when I saw today's news, but
chances are it's some other problem. This is why test
flights are test flights.


10 posted on 12/21/2004 1:06:42 PM PST by Boundless
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To: Moral Hazard

I saw that video too. But was it a manned flight? And was it a total loss, or did it slide in on it's belly? I can't remember.

Red6


16 posted on 12/21/2004 1:30:43 PM PST by Red6
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To: Moral Hazard

"during testing an F22 having a strange instability on takeoff where it went up and down in sort of a sine wave"

You are correct there was a crash, which was cause by the software that controlled the fly-by-wire: The space shuttle had the same problem. It cause the pilot to over steer.


27 posted on 12/21/2004 2:57:43 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com
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