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Target incurs wrath for Salvation Army ban
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 12/18/04 | Mike Tierney

Posted on 12/19/2004 7:06:27 AM PST by madprof98

The parking lots in front of Target stores are quieter this Christmas season.

Absent is the pealing of Salvation Army bells and the pitter-patter of some former customers who may have crossed the retailer off their shopping lists for banning the bell-ringers.

Target announced in January that it would extend a long-standing policy prohibiting solicitors from standing outside its stores to the Salvation Army's volunteers and their signature red kettles. But the decision got widespread attention only recently, as the Christian charity publicized the ban and criticism against the retailer mounted.

On Thursday, Target rival Wal-Mart added a jab. The world's No. 1 retailer touted its willingness to welcome the kettles by agreeing to match all customer contributions to the Salvation Army through Christmas Eve, up to $1 million.

A fine kettle of fish Target now finds itself in. The company name has been turned against it as mostly Christian-rooted groups such as the American Family Association have targeted the chain for criticism and encouraged followers to buy their gifts elsewhere.

Target, which wouldn't comment for this story, has said it opted for blanket enforcement of its non-solicitation policy at its 1,300 stores when other organizations sought the same privileges as the Salvation Army. The retailer emphasizes its charitable record. Target donates about 5 percent of its pretax profits --- more than $100 million a year --- to charities, including the Salvation Army.

There are signs that Target is feeling repercussions for banning the kettles.

America's Research Group, a shopping-behavior tracker and marketing firm in Charleston, S.C., phoned 800 households nationwide and determined that Target was the only major retailer with fewer customers last weekend compared with the same holiday-shopping weekend in 2003.

The survey indicated 55 percent of U.S. consumers visited stores over the weekend, with 12 percent patronizing Target. A year ago, 43 percent went shopping, and 30 percent of those shoppers included Target in their rounds.

"That's a significant decline," said ARG Chairman Britt Beemer, who noted 16 interviewees offered without prompting that they avoided Target. "There is getting to be a significant amount of backlash."

'I wouldn't picket'

Some local shoppers said they disagree with the ban, but it didn't keep them out of Target stores.

"It's pretty crappy of [Target]," said Mindy Thompson of Snellville, who was shopping at the retailer's store on North Druid Hills Road, "but I wouldn't picket over it."

Chris Davidson of Chamblee accepts the chain's explanation for shooing off the kettles. "If it's their policy, and they are going to enforce it for everybody else, it should be enforced [for Salvation Army]," she said. "There's plenty of other places for them to go."

The Salvation Army says poor children and their families, for whom the bells toll, are being hurt by Target's decision.

The charity won't match the $93 million it took in last year, said Maj. George Hood, a national spokesman for Salvation Army. He attributes most of the decline to Target, where the Salvation Army collected about $9 million last holiday season.

In metro Atlanta, coins, bills and checks dropped into crimson containers at Target entrances last year made up 28 percent of the $860,000 the Salvation Army amassed at 25 locations.

Through Thursday, metro area volunteers had hauled in $596,000 toward the Salvation Army's $1 million goal. That is similar to the amount that had been collected at this time last year, but the organization's metro area goal was lower --- $900,000.

Still, Maj. George Hoosier, general secretary for the Salvation Army's Georgia chapter, said Target's silencing of the bells "has put us in a bind."

Meanwhile, other seasonal charities are thriving. Toys For Tots, for example, is reporting record highs for corporate donations.

The Salvation Army's Cobb County wing got some relief Tuesday when guests at U.S. Sen.-elect Johnny Isakson's Christmas gala kicked in $9,601.

"I just can't understand how people standing out front [of the stores] to raise money for those in need --- why they would not allow that," Isakson said during an interview at the event in the Cobb Galleria.

Criticism harsh

Target has risen to lightning-rod status for some Americans angry at the state of year-end commercialism, said Atlanta marketing strategist Jim Neal.

"This has been unfair," said Neal, of Kurt Salmon Associates. "[Target is] taking the hit from the Christmas crabbies."

Target is not the only high-profile chain that forbids sidewalk solicitations. The Salvation Army is verboten at Home Depot, Toys "R" Us and Kroger, though Hoosier said some of those retailers provide aid or assistance directly.

Even Wal-Mart limits the organization's bell-ringing to 14 days.

Target did not anticipate such harsh reaction, said Laura Rowley, author of the book "On Target: How the World's Hottest Retailer Hit a Bull's-Eye."

"I think they made a big mistake," said Rowley, who teaches a course on contemporary moral values at Seton Hall University in New Jersey. "I understand where they are coming from, but they completely underestimated the significance of the Salvation Army. It's not just another charity. It reminds people of Christmas. To them, this takes away the spirit of Christmas."

Target has not said whether it would amend the prohibition next year.

"I would if I were them," said Beemer, the researcher. "What Target is doing may satisfy a very small group that might complain, but there is a much larger group that is mad about it."

Neal would urge Target to weather the barrage. "Their reasons are valid," said the consultant, who maintains Target's tepid holiday revenue is a reflection of a widespread shopping malaise. "They should stay the course."

--- Staff writer Craig Schneider contributed to this article.


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KEYWORDS: retail; salvationarmy; target
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This is the first word I've seen in the mainstream press about the impact of Target's decision to cut out the Salvation Army this year, and I don't think it's been posted here before. Makes me glad because my wife and I have avoided Target this Christmas season, and we let them know why.
1 posted on 12/19/2004 7:06:27 AM PST by madprof98
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"Makes me glad because my wife and I have avoided Target this Christmas season, and we let them know why."

Supposedly Target gives big money to St. Jude's. Is your boycott going to hurt them too?
2 posted on 12/19/2004 7:15:06 AM PST by Moral Hazard (With a pickle mind we kick the nipple beer.)
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Target donates about 5 percent of its pretax profits --- more than $100 million a year --- to charities, including the Salvation Army.

More likely, $10,000 to the Salvation Army---$75 million to the Tides Foundation. $20 million to Gay Pride.

3 posted on 12/19/2004 7:16:14 AM PST by John Thornton ("Appeasers always hope that the crocodile will eat them last." Winston Churchill)
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I went to a Wal-Mart here in Syracuse last night.

They had an actual Wal-Mart Employee standing next to the Salvation Army kettle, ringing the bell, and saying "Merry Christmas, Thank You For Giving To The Salvation Army, and Thank You For Shopping At Wal-Mart!"

I wonder, which is run by liberals and which by conservatives: Target, or Wal-Mart?

(steely)

4 posted on 12/19/2004 7:17:08 AM PST by Steely Tom (Fortunately, fhe Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: John Thornton

I suspect you're right. Target makes a big show of community concern, but the community in question is not the one to which I belong.


5 posted on 12/19/2004 7:18:05 AM PST by madprof98
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". . . but they completely underestimated the significance of the Salvation Army. It's not just another charity. It reminds people of Christmas."

I think therein lies the truth - people are just getting FED UP with this anti-Christian Jihad and are starting to show their resentment wherever they can.

Our City Hall has a "Happy Holidays" sign and is getting heat from the locals. Correctly, IMHO. Corporate America and our elected officials have gone overboard in catering to all the Perpetually Offended People.

6 posted on 12/19/2004 7:20:00 AM PST by Oatka
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To: Moral Hazard

No, it'll help immensely when Target is forced to do a turnaround next year and probably shells out more to charities than they did before.


7 posted on 12/19/2004 7:21:54 AM PST by Joey Silvera
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To: madprof98

It is about time that the Christian community let the business community know we have an economic power we are willing to weild. Actually I think Gibsons Passion for Christ showed that we have a sword, and this action against Target is the first way. The message is that if you listen to the Homosexual community ( 1.7%) of the population you will Loose the other 70% of the Christian Community. Its thier choice. It is now loud and clear.


8 posted on 12/19/2004 7:23:04 AM PST by Walkingfeather (q)
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To: madprof98

Well, they lost a couple of hundred dollars from us too.

For the record, I am very tired of people with their hand out.

However, the Salvation Army helps a lot of people. It's a Christmas drive they've run for a long long time. It's essentially a Christmas tradition that I strongly support.

It's an example of giving, that reminds people that giving is good for the soul. Other charities most likely benefit from the Salvation Army reminding folks that it's time to think about the charities you support.


9 posted on 12/19/2004 7:25:08 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
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To: madprof98

I'm delighted. Besides there's nothing at Target that you can't get somewhere else.


10 posted on 12/19/2004 7:26:14 AM PST by thathamiltonwoman
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Target has become a target :) They're getting $0 from me this year.

And I've donated extra at Wally World to help push towards that $1M :)

11 posted on 12/19/2004 7:28:40 AM PST by upchuck (I support the right of leftists to damage their credibility by saying stupid things out loud. MAdams)
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"It's pretty crappy of [Target]," said Mindy Thompson of Snellville, who was shopping at the retailer's store on North Druid Hills Road, "but I wouldn't picket over it."
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North Druid Hills Road?

This has to be an Onion story.

DK


12 posted on 12/19/2004 7:33:16 AM PST by Dark Knight
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To: madprof98
The retailer emphasizes its charitable record. Target donates about 5 percent of its pretax profits --- more than $100 million a year --- to charities, including the Salvation Army.

Target is not the only high-profile chain that forbids sidewalk solicitations. The Salvation Army is verboten at Home Depot, Toys "R" Us and Kroger, though Hoosier said some of those retailers provide aid or assistance directly. Even Wal-Mart limits the organization's bell-ringing to 14 days.

Until I read the above I was sympathetic to those who decided to stay away. Now, I think it is a witch-hunt, that Target is the victim of unfair PR, and that the Salvation Army itself is being very heavy-handed in laying the blame solely at the doorstep of Target.

13 posted on 12/19/2004 7:33:42 AM PST by Piranha
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Don't back up now! Hold to the guns! We can sink her!

200,000 shoppers stop shopping at Target

$1000 annual guestimation per person in purchases

$200,000,000 in lost revenue. IT CAN BE DONE!

OOOOORRRRRAAAAAHHH!!!


14 posted on 12/19/2004 7:34:00 AM PST by American Vet Repairman (If I am not liked, I will accept respected, if not respected then all I care is that I am feared.)
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To: madprof98
The answer to those who object to the Salvation Army being permitted to ring their bells outside the door should have been "the ban doesn't include the Salvation Army because they were Grandfathered, we can't exclude them." They have been there so long they should never have been excluded. Besides, most people go into Target to purchase their gifts for the Adopt A Family program run by the Salvation Army.

I'll not only stay away from Target during the Christmas season, I plan on just staying away from them every day of the year.

15 posted on 12/19/2004 7:34:26 AM PST by McGavin999 (Senate is trying to cover their A$$es with Rumsfeld hide)
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To: Oatka

"Corporate America and our elected officials have gone overboard in catering to all the Perpetually Offended People."

One major exception is Fox News airing Christmas wishes that plainly state "the reason for the season." It warms my heart to see these massages broadcast at a time where Christianity is being banned from virtually every possible facet of life. I haven't heard the word "Jesus" mentioned in any of the holiday wishes from any of the MSM networks.


16 posted on 12/19/2004 7:36:48 AM PST by ArmedNReady (Islam, the cancer on humanity...)
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To: madprof98
Walmart is also matching kettle donations for the Salvation Army.

I have a choice where I shop and it will be where there is a kettle at the door. In my opinion, they are part of the Christmas tradition.

17 posted on 12/19/2004 7:40:12 AM PST by SouthTexas
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To: DoughtyOne

"For the record, I am very tired of people with their hand out."

Salvation Army,in general, helps out more than just the poor. They were right here helping us during our struggles after Ivan. They stayed and helped longer than the Red Cross. Many people they helped have never taken a hand-out in their lives. It is very humbling when you have to do so.


18 posted on 12/19/2004 7:40:31 AM PST by imskylark
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I just went to their web site and sent them a polite email telling them I was sorry to hear of their decision, and wouldn't be shopping at Target. I'm more of a Walmart guy, anyway.


19 posted on 12/19/2004 7:46:52 AM PST by Richard Kimball
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