I Am A Conservative Christian, And The Religious Right Scares Me, Too

Chuck Baldwin ^ | 12/15

[Zack Nguyen]

Bush administration and within the Republican Party who, in the name of "fighting terrorism," are actually terrorizing constitutional protections of our liberties.

And how would Chuck Baldwin fight the War on Terror? Everytime I read one of his articles posted on FR, he is only complaining about George W. Bush.

[papertyger]

For one reason, on the whole, the Religious Right has obviously and patently become little more than a propaganda machine for the Republican Party in general and for President G.W. Bush in particular. This is in spite of the fact that both Bush and the Republican Party in Washington, D.C., have routinely ignored and even trampled the very principles which the Religious Right claims to represent.

Therefore, no longer does the Religious Right represent conservative, Christian values. Instead, they represent their own self-serving interests at the expense of those values.

Uhm, Pastor...how do you draw a specific conclusion (the "therefore" part) from two fuzzy, gratuitous generalizations (the RR is a propaganda machine, and Republicans have trampled some undefined principles the RR is suppose to stand for)?

Sir, you may have quite a list of accomplishments, but unfortunately your ability to reason is somewhere on par with a little girl that wants more candy.

I needed to read no further to understand you have no business advising anyone beyond "play nicely, and eat your vegetables."

[FreeReign]

What's not to like about this article?

The author of this long article criticizes the Patriot Act and the Intelligence Bill but can't even put together one sentence on the specifics or any specific of what he dislikes about said bills.

You think that's likable?

[CyberAnt]

"out of context"

Well .. not really! But the scripture is in Psalms 105:15.

However, if you start at the beginning of the Chapter, and read the whole thing, you will find in Verse 7 - "He is the Lord our God: his judgments are in all the earth." And .. if you're able to continue reading .. it says in the following Verses - 13. When they went from one nation to another, from one kingdom to another people; 14. He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes; 15. Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm."

My comments were to explain that GOD is not a slackard that He cannot deal with his own children. For the President to be accused of using the religious right for his own purposes is crass to say the least.

Most people are not willing to study it out - but there are specific rules to be followed to bring charges against another Christian. As a Pastor, I would EXPECT Baldwin to know that .. which means that he should already know he's out of line. But .. GOD is more than able to deal with it.

[VIDADDICT]

. . . as our pastor used to say about such, approach it like you would a fish; eat the meat and discard the bones.
In what circumstance would a Pastor give this advice???

[John Lenin]

Chuck has picked up on the latest leftist talking points. The article reeks of paranoia, I wonder what it is in his background that he is afraid of ?

[Monterrosa-24]

"By their fruits ye shall know them" Jimmy could talk up being a Christian and even thump the Bible regularly. But he always sided with communists over Christians in action.

Jimmy Carter teaches Sunday School but he needs to be a student instead. He was arguably a worse prez than Slick Willie and is saying something.

[FreeReign]

read later

Recommendation: Don't!

[spinestein]

" the Religious Right has obviously and patently become little more than a propaganda machine for the Republican Party in general and for President G.W. Bush in particular. "


This line tells you all you need to know about how much $#!* he's full of.

[papertyger]

Isn't this the guy that was trying to make Ann Coulter out to be some sort of intellectual suicide bomber just after "Treason" came out?

If so, forget him. That guy was the mental equvalent of those kids up in Virginia preaching at the top of their lungs at everyone who didn't beat them up.

[MississippiMan]

Bizarro. I voted for Bush because he was the best option on the table by a mile. I most definitely do not support or even condone his positions that are in conflict with my Christianity, though.

He also loses a lot of credibility when he touts Carter's Christianity. It's one thing to publicly claim Christ, but Carter consistently takes positions that I simply cannot reconcile with the Bible.

MM

[woofie]

I always thought that the "Religious Right" is the boogeyman and whipping boy of the left

[Raycpa]

Same old tune. In fact he has not written anything original for years.

http://www.covenantnews.com/baldwinfile.htm

[papertyger]

when you don't agree with something someone writes, smear him personally, attach him personally, call him names, but don't rebut any specifics.

Please see my post #102, and tell me if you need more specifics. You may be impressed by his Martha-ing, but he sure doesn't Mary very well.

[libertyman]

He's not asking you to....why you (or anyone else) believe that is ridiculous--& no, don't tell me that voting for anyone other than a Repug is the same as voting for a Dim, 'cuz it ain't true!

He was Michael Peroutka's running mate for the Constitution Party in the '04 election. His criticism of the GOP is right on the money: their allegience to the Constitution is minimal, w/ the possible exception of the very honorable Representative RON PAUL (God bless him!), & maybe a handfull of others.

[spinestein]

" You two are using the typical and finely honed tactic here on FR; when you don't agree with something someone writes, smear him personally, attach him personally, call him names, but don't rebut any specifics. You trying to label him a Liberal or Democrat or Hollywood type simply shows your ignorance. "

Now who's name-calling?

[ambrose]

Who is Chuck Baldwin anyway? Pat Buchanan type?

[libertyman]

But your actions in the 2nd paragraph gave a slap in the face to the principles you wrote about in the 1st!

[Quix]

I don't recall, really. I think I mixed him up with someone else who died some time ago. Silly me.

I think you must be right. And I agree.

[spinestein]

" He just isn't a Party First and that truly bothers a lot of Freepers. "


I'm just not buying the argument that most FReepers are Republican "Party first". I've seen far more criticism than not of the Republican Party here, especially from the "Religious Right".

The whole thesis of Mr. Baldwin's article is to suggest that the Religious Right cares more for Party than for conservative principles and I don't see any evidence anywhere to support that and a whole lot of evidence (here on FR as well) to refute it.