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A.C.L.U.'s Search for Data on Donors Stirs Privacy Fears
NY Times ^ | Dec 18, 2004 | STEPHANIE STROM

Posted on 12/17/2004 8:57:47 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: Ruadh; traviskicks
The point is that ACLU members did not choose to give up their privacy:

Another point - if it had been any other company or organization that had engaged in this data collection, the ACLU would be suing them out of existence with a zeal that would make their jihad against the Boy Scouts look laid back.

81 posted on 12/18/2004 9:17:46 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (It's not evidence of wrongdoing just because Democrats don't like the outcome.)
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To: weshess

I went to Penn State. I know what you mean.


82 posted on 12/18/2004 9:18:49 PM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: streetrepair

that is a mockup for a submarine, not a futuristic computer.


83 posted on 12/18/2004 11:53:32 PM PST by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: jwalburg

>>The organization has been shaken by infighting since May

The Sith, according tot he Episode I novel, had the same "issue".

>This was the most promising part of the whole article.

Indeed, the Sith were reduced to 2.


84 posted on 12/19/2004 2:20:02 AM PST by ROTB
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To: superskunk

>Funny thing about the left. Darwin never said that we evolved
> from apes or that there was no God. The liberals put those
>words in his mouth. He merely suggested that certain species
>have evolved along certain lines. Of course, why wouldn't God
> make his creatures adaptable?

Wait. Darwin also proposed how the *eye* would evolve. Surely this would shut out God indirectly. Right?


85 posted on 12/19/2004 2:22:33 AM PST by ROTB
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To: flashbunny

that is a mockup for a submarine, not a futuristic computer."

Ah, you had to ruin it, didn't you!!!! ;)


86 posted on 12/19/2004 5:55:38 AM PST by streetrepair
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To: ROTB
Not familiar with that reference, but Darwin never suggested or implied that there is no God. However, we do adapt to our environments. This is the reason for different skin colors. We are also on average a few inches taller than about a century ago. I don't see how that eliminates God from the picture. That's just the liberals' wishful thinking.
87 posted on 12/19/2004 12:37:39 PM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"It's not illegal, but it is a violation of our values. It is hypocrisy."

Why does the phrase 'There is no controlling legal authority that says this was in violation of law. ' come to mind? ( Al Gore to the press in the dialing for dollars fiasco )

88 posted on 12/19/2004 12:52:51 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: goldstategop

Pretty amusing to see the degree to which the ACLU is tearing itself to shreds about this issue. Though I will say this - at least they do this research on their own donors. If you have not given money to them, you are left alone.

Regardless, this is small change, compared to what credit rating agencies have on us. Not to mention the banks, who finance our mortgages. When you purchase a home via a mortgage, the mortgage is sold (along with all your vital stats - SS#, monthly income, etc.) in a secondary market. Who knows where this information is going - but it sure is unnerving, the degree to which we sacrifice our right to privacy when we sign a home mortgage.


89 posted on 12/19/2004 4:12:42 PM PST by Teplukin
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To: All
You can join the fight against the ACLU and their ilk by becoming involved with and supporting the following organizations:

Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) - http://www.alliancedefensefund.org

Thomas More Law Center (TMLC) - http://www.thomasmore.org

American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) - http://www.aclj.org

The Rutherford Institute - http://www.rutherford.org/

Stop the ACLU Coalition - http://www.stoptheaclu.org


Here are a few examples of how two of those organizations are fighting back:

ADF Contacts Over 3,600 School Districts Over Attempts To Censor Christmas

ADF: 700 lawyers ready to fight ACLU lawsuits

ADF: Pentagons' Warning About Boyscouts Is Absurd

Thomas More Law Center: Town of Palm Beach Pays $50,000 In Attorney Fees Apologizes To Women In Nativity Lawsuit


Additional information:

The ACLU must be destroyed: Joseph Farah supports Boy Scouts, urges Americans to fight back

Citizens mobilized to stop ACLU (seeks to consign group to 'ash heap of history')

ACLU fulfilling communist agenda

Revealing FACTS on the ACLU from its own writings

See how YOUR Senator or Representative ranks with the ACLU


90 posted on 12/21/2004 12:52:01 PM PST by Jay777
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