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Middle-school teachers should grasp the possibility that humans evolved from little apes
AJC ^ | 12/8/04 | Tom Baxter & Jim Galloway

Posted on 12/08/2004 6:14:39 AM PST by Pfesser

Funny, you'd think middle-school teachers would be the first to grasp the possibility that humans evolved from little apes

The Washington Post on Tuesday took on the topic of evolution in the classroom. It pointed out the dilemma faced by David Jackson, a professor of science education at the University of Georgia. Jackson has no problem with the concept of life on Earth developing from a common ancestry.

Here's the crux, according to the Post: "About half the students (Jackson) teaches to become middle school science instructors — and to teach evolution themselves — believe that God created the Earth 6,000 years ago, he said. Scientist friends tell him not to teach those students because anyone with those beliefs 'shouldn't teach.' But he tells them it is his job to make sure that his students understand evolution, not believe it."

Said Jackson: "Most of the scientists on my campus think I'm totally crazy."

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Scientist friends tell him not to teach those students because anyone with those beliefs 'shouldn't teach.'
Seems to me his friends have it backwards.
1 posted on 12/08/2004 6:14:39 AM PST by Pfesser
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To: Pfesser

The title of this article has so many possibilities. Of course middle school teachers are exposed to little apes for six hours a day.


2 posted on 12/08/2004 6:17:25 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Pfesser

Is it not possible to believe in evolution and creationism both?


3 posted on 12/08/2004 6:21:05 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

I have my own combination of those theories that I believe. So my answer is yes for my own theories.


4 posted on 12/08/2004 6:22:55 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Pfesser

Right, science teachers should be ordained into the holy order of St. Darwinias. Anyone who teaches children without being robed in the hood of macro-evolutionary faith must be separated from the temple of science.


5 posted on 12/08/2004 6:23:11 AM PST by Rippin
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To: Rippin

I may not agree with their point, but I can kind of understand where they are coming from. Think about it this way, how would you like it if seminaries were turning out pastors that ignored Genesis and taught evolution only?


6 posted on 12/08/2004 6:28:17 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

Darwin did!


7 posted on 12/08/2004 6:32:09 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Pfesser

Didn't Howard Cosell get in trouble for saying something like that in 1983?


9 posted on 12/08/2004 6:33:23 AM PST by G.Mason (The replies by this poster are meant for self amusement only. Use at your own discretion.)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

Yup. It's even possible to believe in the evolution of animals and the unique creation of man.

Go figure. Views are everywhere.

:-)


10 posted on 12/08/2004 6:33:32 AM PST by TitansAFC (Al Gonzales for SCOTUS? Let's just nominate Arlen Specter.)
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To: PetSounds

What if God created everything, but allowed part of that creation to take place through the process of evolution?


11 posted on 12/08/2004 6:34:34 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Rippin
"About half the students (Jackson) teaches to become middle school science instructors believe that God created the Earth 6,000 years ago" It's nice to see that more and more students are not accepting evolution hook, line and sinker anymore and believe that science supports something else entirely. Unfortunately the powers-that-be on University campuses still have a dark ages attitude toward science in that if the pursuit of truth by students leads them away from the dogmas of evolutionary faith then those students need to be ostercized, mocked and degraded in classrooms, magazines and journals. Not to mention that their careers should be over in the case of some saying that they "shouldn't teach". There has been a large chilling effect in the scientific community for opposing views for a long time to provide the illusion that all scientists "of course" believe in evolution but it seems to be melting little by little.
13 posted on 12/08/2004 6:37:22 AM PST by RC20
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Middle-school teachers should grasp the possibility that humans evolved from little apes

They should also know how to add, subtract, spell, and find the USA on a map of the world.

So far, they are 0-for-4. Thanks, teachers unions!

14 posted on 12/08/2004 6:37:43 AM PST by balrog666 (The invisible and the nonexistent look very much alike.)
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"...how would you like it if seminaries were turning out pastors that ignored Genesis and taught evolution only?"

They're not? The Gramsci-ites took over the seminaries a couple decades ago - that's why we have so many pedophile homosexuals


15 posted on 12/08/2004 6:42:02 AM PST by steplock (http://www.outoftimeradio.org)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

This has likely been stated on these Creationism threads many times, but at the risk of reinventing the wheel, I think the issue can be adddressed on two levels: the scientific and philosophical.

1) The scientific theory of speciation through evolution is simply fact. Species derive from other speices (micro-evolution) and this is contested by no one. The speculative part that suggest genus evolved from other genus (macro-evolution) is where most Creationists differ.

Most people I have met who believe in macro-evolution believe it purely because some proffessor told them so and havent really looked into the evidence or wrestled with any of the problems like how one gradually evolves from one gene-count to another since genes do not evolve in fractional ways, etc.

I personally believe that we all evolved from microbial life forms, while my wife, who has a masters in Vulcanology, does not and only accepts micro-evolution. I fail to see why rejecting macro-evolution should warrant removing anyones scientific credentials.

2) Creationism addresses two levels of thought. At one level is the conotative symbols used to convey a deeper message. Maybe there was an Adam and Eve, and a garden of Eden, maybe there was not, but this is like arguing whether the Anti-Christ will have ten heads or not; maybe he will but its beside the main point that he will have great power.

The deeper message of Creationism is that it asserts:
a. That God made the Universe for the purpose of housing those sentient beings that He created to worship Him.
b. That God created all life and it too has the purpose of sustaining His worshippers.
c. That God created mankind for the purpose of worshipping Him.

Beyond these three assertions, I personally think the details are merely that; details that should not get in the way of the deeper message written more than three mellinia ago.


16 posted on 12/08/2004 6:45:05 AM PST by JFK_Lib
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To: PetSounds

"silly creationist escape routes like: 'The Devil put all those fossils in the earth to mislead us'."

I have never heard of that before in my life. I'm 42 and have read many, many books on creation and origins. All without exception view fossils as one of the greatest proofs of the Bibles accuracy and Noah's flood because fossils require quick burial before any decomposing can take place and so many fossils are found clumped together as in a mudslide. Not to mention the sea creature fossils found on some mountain tops.

In my opinion you must have heard some evolutionist make that up so it was easier for him to mock Creationists. If you did hear that from a preacher in the past it is extremely out of touch with what 99.99% (or more) of Creationists believe.


17 posted on 12/08/2004 6:46:09 AM PST by RC20
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To: steplock

I believe you may be exaggerating. Are you saying that pedophilia is encouraged in seminaries?


18 posted on 12/08/2004 6:47:24 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

"Is it not possible to believe in evolution and creationism both?

I've always thought so.


20 posted on 12/08/2004 6:49:13 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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