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The Demonization of a Life-Saving Industry
Intellectual Conservative ^ | 27 November 2004 | Dr. Elizabeth M. Whelan

Posted on 11/29/2004 11:51:02 AM PST by softengine

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To: softengine
It's the same problem with the public education lobby.

Union bosses like Feldman and screeching harpies like Weingarten and HRC soak up all of the publicity, while truly innovative, brilliant thinkers like Heather McDonald and Peter Brimelow are almost universally ignored by the liberal, mainstream press corps.

21 posted on 11/29/2004 12:17:19 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: exnavychick

Thanks..I thought my attempt at satire was self-evident..obvious not.. I shall endeavour to work on it....


22 posted on 11/29/2004 12:18:38 PM PST by ken5050
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To: ken5050

Sorry...I guess I missed it. LOL


23 posted on 11/29/2004 12:19:38 PM PST by exnavychick (Just my two cents, as usual.)
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To: exnavychick

Now that you mention it, it's pretty obvious.

THWACK!! (smacking myself upside the head)


24 posted on 11/29/2004 12:20:42 PM PST by exnavychick (Just my two cents, as usual.)
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To: sgtbono2002
The Canadian government simply tells the drug manufacturer that they are going to sell the drug to Canada at a certain price or the drug will be banned from being sold in Canada.

Also, when they can get away with it, they tell the manufacturer that they're going to sell at a set price or the Canadian government will open a factory and make the drug themselves.

It's not just Canada...there are several countries that are pulling this same blackmail.  Consequently, the price Americans pay for many drugs is artificially high:  essentially we subsidize the drug costs of socialized medicine countries that are underselling drugs to their own populace.

25 posted on 11/29/2004 12:38:54 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

bump!


26 posted on 11/29/2004 12:39:12 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
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"NATURAL CURES THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT"

I didn't catch the authors name, but if you want the phone# Freepmail me.

27 posted on 11/29/2004 12:43:21 PM PST by SweetCaroline (Give thanks to the GOD of heaven, for His mercy and loving kindness are forever!!)
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To: narby; Do not dub me shapka broham
In that case one is obligated to suspect any of your conclusions. You are the ideal candidate for iatrogenic death, unfortunately Michael Moore may be too wise to be .

The following statistic fails to delineate the cost in monies and the life impeding tragedies played out due to use of pharmacea. No one believes that the reporting of "cause" used in health care facilities or by doctors is nearly as accurate as could be expected so in actual fact we haven't a clue.

"Fatal Adverse Drug Reactions rank from the Fourth to the Sixth Leading Cause of Death in the United States after Heart Disease, Cancer, and Stroke, and similar to Pulmonary Disease and Accidents. Costs associated with Adverse Drug Reactions were estimated at up to $4 billion a year."
http://www.drugintel.com/pharma/statistics_adverse_drug_reactions.htm

What we have in medicine is a duplicate of what we have in the school systems; the union is in charge of the system (AMA) and the AMA is run by the pharmaceutical companies for the parmaceutical companies as is the FDA.

Wake up and prove truth whether it comes from a gutter (Moore) or a castle. Even God used a jackass to turn a bigot into a treasure.

28 posted on 11/29/2004 12:44:06 PM PST by Spirited
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To: Psycho_Bunny
South Africa's experiment in this collectivist enterprise is just one example of how this policy hurts its intended beneficiaries the most.

The one sure way to make sure drugs don't get to the people who truly need them is for the government to impose price controls.

29 posted on 11/29/2004 12:54:31 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: softengine

I might actually feel sorry for the pharmaceutical industry if it was not for the fact that they charge us U.S. citizens triple the price for their drugs that they charge the rest of the world for.


30 posted on 11/29/2004 1:00:54 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: softengine
Demonization is a necessary prelude to price controls. Wherever you have price controls you have demonization.

Examples:

Rent control -----> Greedy landlords.
Gas price control -----> "Big Oil" "Seven Sisters"

31 posted on 11/29/2004 1:05:30 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: softengine

The drug companies also get into bed with and use the government. if they want to stop dying by the sword, they should stop living by the sword.


32 posted on 11/29/2004 1:08:43 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Plutarch
Rent control was introduced as a "temporary" measure for returning vets after WWII.

Hmm...

I wonder when it's going to expire.

33 posted on 11/29/2004 1:09:22 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: Mamzelle

Dr. John Abramson has written a new book, "Overdosed America". He's a family doc who has seen plenty. He covers the cozy relationship between drug cos. and the FDA and docs and drug cos. He says 70% of our medical problems are preventable by diet, exercise and other lifestyle choices. I know a lady who was on 14 prescription medications (28 pills daily). She was a zombie. I helped her get on a nutrition program and she is now drug-free and living a full life again. Drugs are wonderful in some limited circumstances, but they are way over-prescribed and causing many problems.


34 posted on 11/29/2004 2:31:53 PM PST by Mother of the Bride
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To: Plutarch

And price controls ALWAYS hurt the poor. Just how many poor people can afford to live in NYC or SF?


35 posted on 11/29/2004 3:37:44 PM PST by boop (Testing the tagline feature!)
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To: Mother of the Bride

Yeah--have heard this before. EEEEEvil pharmaceudicals. EEEEEvil hospitals. EEEEvil doctors. Vitamins, etc. Granny Goodwitch. Earth Mommies. Brother Moon. Take a vitamin or wholesome unstandardized herbs when the chest pains start? Well, that's your business. When the chest pains start, I'm hightailing it to the ER, and when a simple med saves me both from death and crippling--I'll kiss the feet of the pharm industry. You can have your vitamins....


36 posted on 11/29/2004 4:27:24 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
Amen. Having surgery? You don't need that vicodin! Hell, you don't even need that anesthesia or antibiotics to go with it. Just smoke some marijuana, it's organically grown dontcha know. Clot busters are "dangerous", but hurry it up and legalize kitchen cocaine! NOT.

Some of the commie stuff I read about pharma is nuts. Pharma is 15% of the healthcare dollar. The rest is hospitals, doctors, services, etc. The US gov't needs to get off it's ass and get on the backs of these socialist countries not paying their share of the drug bill. It amounts to an unfair subsidy to them and its being put on the backs of US citizens. Otherwise, the commies in the USA are going to try get the gov't into the pharma business. If people think things are bad now, just wait 'til that happens. We'll go from expensive drugs to no drugs at all. We'll have drugs for AIDS or drugs for hispanics or blacks or whichever political group the politicians want votes from. Or, the gov't can just put us all on drugs and we won't need to vote since we'll be too stoned to make decisions. The suggestion that gov't should take over developement of drugs is moronic.

37 posted on 11/29/2004 5:43:36 PM PST by virgil
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To: virgil
Hey, you should do a rotation on the OB ward and listen to the Earth Mothers start screaming for their epidurals...

Not only are pharms a small % of healthcare, so are docs. Yet, everyone refers to their hospital bills as "doctors' bills."

What costs is that infrastructure and its maintenance--that fragile thing called a hospital. All that junk and its upkeep and its technicians.

38 posted on 11/29/2004 5:47:26 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

I had 2 surgeries last year. I don't know what I would have done without the medication and everything from IVs to in-line tubing, medicine pumps, blood transfusions. All of it. I was only in the hospital for a couple days. I had a wonderful doctor, the hospital took good care of me and they didn't kill me, and if it weren't for the technology, I would have been in the hospital a lot longer than I was. Now I'm healthier than I've been in years.


39 posted on 11/29/2004 6:09:35 PM PST by virgil
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To: Mamzelle

What % of medical costs come from lawsuit protection - like insurance premiums and "defensive medicine"?


40 posted on 11/29/2004 7:19:32 PM PST by secretagent
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