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1 posted on 11/25/2004 5:32:32 AM PST by Maurice1962
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To: Maurice1962

I just rented and tried to watch "Day After Tomorrow".

3 attempts, I just couldn't do it. I love corny disaster movies, but the whole premise (and the acting) was SO BAD, it wasn't even comical after awhile.

What's scarier still. is that there are those who actually believe this crap. Intelligent, powerful people whose hatred of capitalism allows them to be taken in by such tripe.


2 posted on 11/25/2004 5:46:27 AM PST by digger48
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To: Maurice1962

I have taken an environmental science class in college (it was a requirement). What a joke! It's just a one-sided lecture.


3 posted on 11/25/2004 5:47:27 AM PST by senorita (A real American native)
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To: Maurice1962

This treaty has nothing to do with global warming. This is nothing but another way to bring down the U.S. by the Marxists by the U.N.


5 posted on 11/25/2004 5:58:17 AM PST by smokeyb
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To: Maurice1962
No matter who the news shows interviewed, the coverage focused on the impact of global warming. The stories blamed everything from floods to drought on climate change. ABC blamed warming for "erratic" weather such as a Christmas Eve snowstorm in Buffalo of all places. Reporter Neal Karlinsky explained, "Scientists say there is a pattern here. The weather is becoming more erratic for one main reason, the earth is getting warmer."

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WE'RE ALL DOOMED!

7 posted on 11/25/2004 6:21:43 AM PST by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: Maurice1962

Global warming should be welcomed with open arms, not turned into a money making scheme for the UN. They (the UN) can turn poppycock into dollars, but I don't think this one is going to pass scientific muster, and just might be the straw that kicks the UN to Paris, where they can enjoy each others company. After we clean up Iraq, we need to clean up the festering sore the boil of the UN has become. Maybe we could multi-task, and get them both done together.


11 posted on 11/25/2004 6:46:55 AM PST by wita
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To: Maurice1962
The weather is becoming more erratic for one main reason, the earth is getting warmer.

Of course, we all remember our great- and great-great-grandparent's stories about how stable the weather was in the pre-industrial age. About how, for instance, it ALWAYS snowed in Donner's Pass on December 24th, and the snowstorm would last for exactly 2 hours and 47 minutes. About how, on July 4th, they could ALWAYS count on a sunny 82F for their picnics.

Too bad we don't have that kind of predictable weather anymore.

< /sarcasm off >

13 posted on 11/25/2004 6:54:12 AM PST by exDemMom (Victory! Victory! Victory!)
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I just want one answer before I support any claims to global warming as being human caused.

Why is Mars warming too?

:)


18 posted on 11/25/2004 7:18:47 AM PST by Newshues
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To: Maurice1962; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
26 posted on 11/25/2004 9:10:10 PM PST by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: Maurice1962

I'm rooting for warmer myself.


28 posted on 11/25/2004 10:24:38 PM PST by Old Professer (The accidental trumps the purposeful in every endeavor attended by the incompetent.)
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To: Maurice1962

Good post...


29 posted on 11/25/2004 10:27:06 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Maurice1962

I was forced to watch the "Day After Tomorrow" out of boredom on a coast-to-coast flight. Retarded science and premise - but it was also a terrible movie. One of those movies in which - even if you agreed with the preaching - you couldn't be swept into sympathy for the main characters. The story and characters were all so cartoonish, only idle curiosity kept me from reading those snooze-worthy inflight magazines, just to see if the bozos froze to death or not.

This movie should be required viewing as a demonstration of leftist quality of thinking and grasp of reality.


30 posted on 11/25/2004 10:46:24 PM PST by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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To: Maurice1962

I believe the political issues which arise in a connection to global warming may interfere with a more direct approach to the problem. This is not intended to mean that political entities may not participate in problem identification, analysis, and response, but instead to point out that there occurs a substantial investment of manhours and expense in sorting through the side issues. The central issue of global warming becomes a side issue in such a scenario where political entities upstage and redirect the flow of involvement & progress into directions where they are more proficient. The problem of global warming yet remains a problem of the physical sciences. See what I mean?

The following excerpts and URLs are gathered in support of a text which I am developing concerning the fundamental nature of global warming as a manifestation of the unified field; that manifestation arising thermodynamically & primarily within the sphere of equilibria & disequilibria of the mass-heat proportionality.

The reason I make this collection of notes available publicly now is to help fill in the blank concerning the seriousness of the problem in a very real sense, and to attempt to direct the question away from so much of a political foundation & stage, and more towards a physical sciences perspective. This helps to give global warming some tangible handles. It rises above opinion and hearsay to take on features & qualities of a substantial reality in the here & now and for the time to come.

Some excerpts follow:
http://www.psrc.usm.edu/macrog/tg.htm
Article titled "The Glass Transition."

"... change in mobility with temperature happens because the phenomenon we call "heat" is really a form of kinetic energy; that is, the energy of objects in motion. It is actually an effect of random motion of molecules, whether they are polymer molecules or small molecules. Things are "hot" when their molecules have lots of kinetic energy and move around very fast. Things are "cold" when their molecules lack kinetic energy and move around slowly, or not at all."

http://www.psrc.usm.edu/macrog/movies/tg.htm
A movie which simulates the increase of relative motion of substance as it receives an increase in heat energy. Notice how it resembles atmospheric motion in long range segmental translational movement from calm weather to storm systems and seasonal changes from winter to summer.

http://www.psrc.usm.edu/macrog/dsc.htm
An article discussing "Differential Scanning Calorimetry". The key connection to global warming and mass loss involves the function of heat reservoir substances to absorb heat; and the quantity of mass that is necessary for a given heat load to maintain states of phase & relative motion & turbulence within acceptable/inhabitable limits.

"There is a latent heat of melting as well as a latent heat of crystallization. When the polymer crystals melt, they must absorb heat in order to do so. Remember melting is a first order transition. This means that when you reach the melting temperature, the polymer's temperature won't rise until all the crystals have melted. This also means that the furnace is going to have to put additional heat into the polymer in order to melt both the crystals and keep the temperature rising at the same rate..."

Concerning ice effects & rising sea levels.
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3977712e1941.htm
""We see a significant trend (in loss of ice mass)," said William B. Krabill, first author of the study. "When we can go back after five years and see 10 meters of glacier gone, there is something happening."


32 posted on 11/25/2004 11:49:07 PM PST by V2K4BSA
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