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Greatest Danger Is Kyoto Protocol, Not Global Warming
Human Events Online ^ | 11/24/04 | Herman Cain and Dan Gainor

Posted on 11/25/2004 5:32:31 AM PST by Maurice1962

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To: senorita

The first question I would have asked the professor teaching your class would be, if global warming is such a threat why is China and India exempt from it ?


21 posted on 11/25/2004 10:38:46 AM PST by John Lenin (If you're going through hell, keep going.)
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To: senorita

I was told by a climatology grad student that I can't even talk to her about Kyoto 'cause she's had so many classes on it. LOL!

She also claims I'm closed minded even though she and her peer group seem to believe the same things right down the line.


22 posted on 11/25/2004 1:40:06 PM PST by Duke Nukum (When there is no room in Hell, the U.N. elect Bill Clinton as their president.)
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To: digger48

Meteor has been running on the cable channels and I've caught it a number of times. The acting is bad too, I'm not sure about the premise, but I love to watch that movie.

I have no interest whatsoever in trying to watch the Day After Tomorrow, mostly because I haven't liked any of that directors other movies but also, actors today just don't have the gravitas of Karl Maldon and Sean Connery working together. And Brian Keith, I think his name is, the guy from Family Affair is in there too. And Martin Landau in a thankless role.

Oh, and, damned! I can't remember her name, Robert Wagner's wife, the girl from Rebel w/o a Cause. Anyway, the cast is great.

Still, Meteor is little more then Soviet agitprop, but at least it manages to be entertaining.

Now the Poseidon Adventure, that's probably the greatest disaster movie of all time.


23 posted on 11/25/2004 1:48:56 PM PST by Duke Nukum (When there is no room in Hell, the U.N. elect Bill Clinton as their president.)
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To: TAMU_Neocon
At the end they have a scene where some cosmonauts on a space station are looking down at the earth and the northern hemisphere is covered in ice and they remark on how "beautiful and peaceful" it looks.

Well, it WOULD be more peaceful without those mouthy Canadians...

24 posted on 11/25/2004 4:51:29 PM PST by wizardoz (Arafat's funeral was the Wellstone memorial, with guns.)
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To: mdmathis6
Your problem is that you write and reason like an idiot.

Global warming is indeed a hoax, but the science and reasoning required to reach this conclusion is beyond you. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

--Boris

25 posted on 11/25/2004 6:41:40 PM PST by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a Leftist with a word processor)
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To: Maurice1962; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
26 posted on 11/25/2004 9:10:10 PM PST by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: farmfriend

thanks for the ping


27 posted on 11/25/2004 10:18:17 PM PST by RichLane
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To: Maurice1962

I'm rooting for warmer myself.


28 posted on 11/25/2004 10:24:38 PM PST by Old Professer (The accidental trumps the purposeful in every endeavor attended by the incompetent.)
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To: Maurice1962

Good post...


29 posted on 11/25/2004 10:27:06 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Maurice1962

I was forced to watch the "Day After Tomorrow" out of boredom on a coast-to-coast flight. Retarded science and premise - but it was also a terrible movie. One of those movies in which - even if you agreed with the preaching - you couldn't be swept into sympathy for the main characters. The story and characters were all so cartoonish, only idle curiosity kept me from reading those snooze-worthy inflight magazines, just to see if the bozos froze to death or not.

This movie should be required viewing as a demonstration of leftist quality of thinking and grasp of reality.


30 posted on 11/25/2004 10:46:24 PM PST by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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To: guitfiddlist

A 70s B film done with modern special effects.


31 posted on 11/25/2004 11:37:25 PM PST by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: Maurice1962

I believe the political issues which arise in a connection to global warming may interfere with a more direct approach to the problem. This is not intended to mean that political entities may not participate in problem identification, analysis, and response, but instead to point out that there occurs a substantial investment of manhours and expense in sorting through the side issues. The central issue of global warming becomes a side issue in such a scenario where political entities upstage and redirect the flow of involvement & progress into directions where they are more proficient. The problem of global warming yet remains a problem of the physical sciences. See what I mean?

The following excerpts and URLs are gathered in support of a text which I am developing concerning the fundamental nature of global warming as a manifestation of the unified field; that manifestation arising thermodynamically & primarily within the sphere of equilibria & disequilibria of the mass-heat proportionality.

The reason I make this collection of notes available publicly now is to help fill in the blank concerning the seriousness of the problem in a very real sense, and to attempt to direct the question away from so much of a political foundation & stage, and more towards a physical sciences perspective. This helps to give global warming some tangible handles. It rises above opinion and hearsay to take on features & qualities of a substantial reality in the here & now and for the time to come.

Some excerpts follow:
http://www.psrc.usm.edu/macrog/tg.htm
Article titled "The Glass Transition."

"... change in mobility with temperature happens because the phenomenon we call "heat" is really a form of kinetic energy; that is, the energy of objects in motion. It is actually an effect of random motion of molecules, whether they are polymer molecules or small molecules. Things are "hot" when their molecules have lots of kinetic energy and move around very fast. Things are "cold" when their molecules lack kinetic energy and move around slowly, or not at all."

http://www.psrc.usm.edu/macrog/movies/tg.htm
A movie which simulates the increase of relative motion of substance as it receives an increase in heat energy. Notice how it resembles atmospheric motion in long range segmental translational movement from calm weather to storm systems and seasonal changes from winter to summer.

http://www.psrc.usm.edu/macrog/dsc.htm
An article discussing "Differential Scanning Calorimetry". The key connection to global warming and mass loss involves the function of heat reservoir substances to absorb heat; and the quantity of mass that is necessary for a given heat load to maintain states of phase & relative motion & turbulence within acceptable/inhabitable limits.

"There is a latent heat of melting as well as a latent heat of crystallization. When the polymer crystals melt, they must absorb heat in order to do so. Remember melting is a first order transition. This means that when you reach the melting temperature, the polymer's temperature won't rise until all the crystals have melted. This also means that the furnace is going to have to put additional heat into the polymer in order to melt both the crystals and keep the temperature rising at the same rate..."

Concerning ice effects & rising sea levels.
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3977712e1941.htm
""We see a significant trend (in loss of ice mass)," said William B. Krabill, first author of the study. "When we can go back after five years and see 10 meters of glacier gone, there is something happening."


32 posted on 11/25/2004 11:49:07 PM PST by V2K4BSA
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To: Duke Nukum

That would be Natalie Wood.


33 posted on 11/26/2004 12:19:14 AM PST by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: farmfriend

BTTT!!!!!!!


34 posted on 11/26/2004 3:10:21 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: boris

Hey...I made a disclaimer that I didn't agree with global warming that I felt the science was bogus....but I did try to follow the public relations pablum these fools give out with a equally gobbledy gook theory of my own based on the logic that they espouse to the press.

By you attacking me for my thinking...you are attacking the weinie greenies...I never said I believed any of it at all.

So hold your fire OK...Boris...or I'll sick Bullwinkle on you and your Natasha!


35 posted on 11/26/2004 11:06:34 AM PST by mdmathis6
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