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To: narby

There are people who believe that God created us, specially, uniquely, with a special plan. That humans are substantially different from everything else created, and that they are second only to angels in terms of closeness in relation to God when it comes to created beings.

You are calling people who believe that dangerous, because no one who believes that also believes that these humans created in God's image descended from apes. Because there is nothing special or substantially different about apes.

Were these supposed pre-humans made in God's image? No. They're not even pre-humans, they're apes. Humans are substantially different from every other being on the planet, which is why God gave us his word and not them, and why God sacrificed his son for us and not them.

But under Darwinism, humans came about just like everything else. They were not uniquely created by God, nature had more to do with it than God (in fact, there need not be a God at all if abiogenesis can be proven).

If that is the case, at what point in the speciation process was God's image stamped on humanity?

You shall judge a tree by its fruits, literally and figuratively.

If the fruits of some group of apes was a human, than how are those apes not special too?


211 posted on 11/19/2004 2:26:24 PM PST by DameAutour ("Go carefully. Be conservative. Be sure you are right - and then don't be afraid")
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To: DameAutour
You are calling people who believe that dangerous, because no one who believes that also believes that these humans created in God's image descended from apes.

Actually, a great number of Christians, Jews and ather religious people believe Evolution was God's tool. The Pope, for instance.

The danger occurs when Creationists force secular government schools to teach Creationism side-by-side with Evolution. Those kinds of schoolroom discussions quickly descend to asking whether God exists at all. THAT is dangerous, in that young children may make up their mind for a lifetime that God doesn't exist because of a decision made in that secular classroom.

Religious people can disarm this danger by first teaching children that there are no conflicts between science and Genesis. Problem solved. Those children, perhaps of non-believing parents, are then open to learn of God with no artificial stumbling block called Creationism.

I don't know what denomination you are, but I know of none that says you have to believe in a specific interpretation of those first two chapters in Genesis. I see nothing wrong with believing that "God did it", and just leave it at that.

Yes, abosolutly, Man is special. Genesis says that. But Genesis doesn't say what molecules God manipulated over how many years and with what tool boxes. Genesis doesn't even say God created the molecules first. Molecules and Evolution are the small unimportant details.

226 posted on 11/19/2004 2:51:06 PM PST by narby
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To: DameAutour
If that is the case, at what point in the speciation process was God's image stamped on humanity?

This is only a problem if you believe man was made in the physical image of God. Taken another way, being created in God's image could mean becoming a rational being.

258 posted on 11/19/2004 4:42:11 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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