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A.D., B.C. - not P.C.
The American Thinker ^ | November 18th, 2004 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 11/18/2004 10:39:06 AM PST by .cnI redruM

Our civilization is suffering what could be called a cultural death by a thousand cuts. The open sores are ubiquitous, but what happens to irk me at this moment is that quite some time ago I learned that my birth date is not what my parents always told me it was. Moreover, no one else’s is either. You see, those who are contemptuous of tradition have decided to take it upon themselves to change our calendar and replace B.C. [Before Christ] and A.D. [Anno Domini] with B.C.E. [Before the Common Era] and C.E. [The Common Era].

The latter two designations probably aren’t new to you, since they have found favor with pseudo-intellectual academics and seem to be in every new documentary and in many new books. And if you’re taking the time to read this, the reasoning behind their adoption probably isn’t new to you either. The idea is that B.C. and A.D. are reflective of Christianity, and since not everyone is Christian, it’s insensitive and religio-centric to use them. Well, mercy me! We’ll just have to relegate our culture to the dustbin of history lest we offend someone with our existence. After all, it’s obviously better to perish as a civilization than to meet our maker with the burden of having offended someone weighing on our souls.

All joking aside, their reasoning is the epitome of specious logic. B.C. and A.D. certainly are reflective of Christianity, but everything is reflective of something. For instance, since we’re talking about our calendar, it’s instructive to note that every single month’s name is of Roman origin. A few examples: July and August were named after Julius and Augustus Caesar. January and March were named after Janus and Mars, the Roman pagan gods of war, and of gates and doors and entrances and exits, respectively. September, November and December are named after the Latin [which was the language the Romans spoke] words for seven, nine and ten, respectively. Should we rename our months? After all, relatively few people are of Roman descent.

Then there’s the fact that we use the Roman alphabet [although they learned it from the Etruscans] and Arabic numerals [invented by the Hindus, most likely]. Yet, I never hear anyone say that we should dispense with those designations because they might offend those not of Roman, Etruscan, Arabic or Hindu lineage. Or, how about the fact that English, which is spoken in all corners of the Earth now, bears the name of a people on a small island in the Atlantic?

And what about our cities and states? Many of them bear names that are reflective of Christian influence: Los Angeles [the Angels], Sacramento [the Sacraments] and Corpus Christi [the Body of Christ], to name a few. But, then, some are reflective of French influence, such as Baton Rouge and Louisiana; some are reflective of American Indian influence, such as Chappaqua, Saratoga, Illinois, Texas and twenty-five other states; some are reflective of Spanish influence, such as Palo Alto, Los Alamos and over two-thousand other places. And, of course, there’s the fact that our country was named after the explorer Amerigo Vespucci. There go those Italians again, hogging all the influence.

Methinks much offense can be taken, so some remedial action is in order. Here are my suggestions: our months should be renamed and referred to as “Common Month One,” “Common Month Two,” etc. Then, our alphabet can be called “the Common Alphabet,” our numbers “the Common Numerals” and English “the Common Language.” Then we must resolve to rename our states “Common State One,” “Common State two,” all the way up to fifty, assigning them the Common Numbers based on the order in which they entered our Common Union. The end of this good start – but only the beginning of a journey toward total sensitivity – will be to take the lead among nations and rename America “Common Nation 192.” Why Common Number 192? Well, that’s how many nations exist at present, and we wouldn’t want to be so insensitive as to take Common Number One for ourselves simply because we were so privileged as to be sensitive first. Now, I don’t expect other nations to follow suit immediately, but I reckon that when our common-sense extends across the Common Oceans and to the common folk, Common Continents one through six will become sensitized to sensitivity.

But my sense of whimsy has gotten the better of me. So, let’s transition from the ridiculous to the sublime . . . about the ridiculous. In reality, none of the above would work because the salient point is, once again, that EVERYTHING is reflective of something. If you’re going to name something the Common Era, you must ask, common to whom? After all, our calendar [the Gregorian] is not the only one in existence. Jews, the Eastern Orthodox Churches, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Zoroastrians and others have their own calendars, and I’m confident that we could find some devout Jews and Muslims who would maintain that our Gregorian calendar isn’t common to them.

Of course, the question that most begs to be asked here is, what event are we dating the Common Era from? Answer: the approximate birth date of Jesus of Nazareth! To try to obscure that fact and erase our past by manipulating terminology is dishonest, and is another example of the most invidious sort of revisionist history. Moreover, the reasoning behind this element of social-engineering is so flawed and involves such an obvious double-standard that it could only be accepted by second-rate minds. It so drips of contempt for tradition and Christianity that it could only be truly palatable to a bigot. That’s why it may seem ironic that it was originated by a few theologians, but it isn’t really. For, there are some ideas that are so irreligious that only a theologian could think of them.

Before I conclude, I must add that you don’t have to be religious to consider this change to be an affront; you simply have to be an American who cares about his culture and traditions. And we should be mindful of the fact that other nations do not share the disordered compulsion to relinquish their culture for fear of offending others. Now, the question is, since taking this leaf out of their book is a prerequisite for our national survival, do we have the capacity to cultivate the same strength in ourselves?

Well, a good first step toward that goal is understanding the following: everything offends someone and most everyone is offended by something. Why, I’m offended by the fact that cultural terrorists are denuding our cultural landscape of the things closest to the American heart. The fact is that what’s offensive is very subjective. This explains why our preoccupation with avoiding giving offense has degenerated into a never-ending battle that inures us to untruth, injustice and the un-American way.

Could you imagine the Islamic world shedding its traditions under the pretext of tolerance and sensitivity? Are we, for some inexplicable reason, to be the only nation that has no right to its culture? A.D. and B.C. have been in use for fifteen-hundred years. For some left-wing academics to come along and presume that they have a right to remake this and whatever else doesn’t suit their transitory fancies is outrageous. It’s almost as outrageous as the fact that most of us stand idly by and do nothing to resist their machinations. It is not only our right but our duty to protect the great and good that dozens of generations of our ancestors have bequeathed to us. And we would do well to remember that civilizations rise and fall; they are born, mature, age and die. If we want to preserve ours, we had better stand and be counted and tend to her cultural health. If we will not, perhaps it really is our time to walk quietly into the night. And if so, our epitaph just may read: Oh, principled were we, we wouldn’t bend, we were sensitive till the end.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: archaeology; culturewars; diversity; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; multiculturalism; pc; purge; sensitivity; toughness
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To: priceofreedom

I will continue to use BC and AD because it accurately reflects the reference point from which we measure our dates. Changing it would be silly, since it would simply be a refusal to acknowledge what is, for the purpose of being PC. Also, if it has any chance of upsetting university professors, it's got to be good.


41 posted on 11/18/2004 11:26:30 AM PST by jim35 (I'll bet Dasshole is Deeply Saddened now!!!)
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To: Publius6961
Now, there's a useful scale. Changes every day.

I was doing some research on Anasazi artifacts and saw that the "present" in BP is defined as 1950. I guess not much has changed since then.

43 posted on 11/18/2004 11:27:15 AM PST by socal_parrot (Don't follow me, I'm lost!!!)
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To: .cnI redruM
January and March were named after Janus and Mars, the Roman pagan gods of war, and of gates and doors and entrances and exits, respectively.

Well, he got these bass ackwards, didn't he? Mars is the god of war and Janus the other things.

As for the BCE and CE thingy, I see nothing wrong with it. It does not change the culture one iota, because most people can't even use AD and BC correctly (the former goes before the date and the latter after).

My personal pet peeve, however, is the lack of a year 0. I think we should take 1 BC (or BCE) and make that the year 0. Dates before then would be proceeded by a minus sign (-) making the whole BC/BCE thingy moot.

44 posted on 11/18/2004 11:28:59 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: .cnI redruM

BTTT


45 posted on 11/18/2004 11:29:16 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Professional Engineer

That sounds like a good way to measure time to me! When we invade France, we can make them do it that way too! BTW, CUTE BABY! Also; what DOES happen when you get an electrical engineer wet?


46 posted on 11/18/2004 11:29:50 AM PST by jim35 (I'll bet Dasshole is Deeply Saddened now!!!)
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To: priceofreedom
You have an actual reason to adopt the terminology, and the terminology was originally begun by Jewish scholars in the 1800s, I believe.

The real issue is secularized Christians or secularized children of Christians who adopt it purely to thumb their noses in the faces of serious Christians.

47 posted on 11/18/2004 11:30:26 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: jim35; All

The truth is, if I was Christian I would use the bc/ad terminology it makes sense. I guess if it was before jesus I would use that, but the letters Bj would open up a whole new can o worms. The word Christ in reference to one whom Jews do not accept as the messiah is the main problem for most Jews and that is the reason for the different terminology


48 posted on 11/18/2004 11:35:05 AM PST by priceofreedom (On A Roadmap To Hell)
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To: Professional Engineer
No BC or AD? Fine, how about we call the current year 228 US. New Years Day will from now on occur on July 4.

That's actually a very sensible idea (if one is chucking out one's Christian heritage), the Romans dated from the foundation of the City. I have been known to add Anno Regis Elizabetha 53 to the date (the 53rd year of the reign of Queen Elizabeth).

The only problem then is that you have to know that the Queen came to the throne in 1952, and I have to know that the U.S. was founded in 1776, and we both have to know that Kenya was granted independence in 1963. Many dates to remember for international relations.
49 posted on 11/18/2004 11:35:27 AM PST by tjwmason ("The English, the English, the English are best; I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest")
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To: Tax-chick

later


50 posted on 11/18/2004 11:37:12 AM PST by Tax-chick (The whole world has gone crazy. Their beebers are stuned and there's no turning back.)
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To: .cnI redruM

I agree, it was the Jews who first used the BCE CE terminology and being Jewish it make perfect sense to use these terms in Jewish books. (Of course truely Jewish documents would use the Old Testament dating.)

That being said, it makes no sense to me to rewrite the rest of the world because someone does not feel comfortable with the Christian terminology. Jews should just get use to a lot of Christianity. We Americans should use some of our recent political capital and end the PC movement. The left believes it is progressive and modern to rename everything and attempt to offend no one. Well, it is ridiculous to attempt this and only shows a leftist agenda to do away with a system of morality that has existed since the founding of the country. I agee with this post, obnoxious elitists should be thrown in the rubbish bin along with their modernist movement.


51 posted on 11/18/2004 11:38:11 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: .cnI redruM
We withstood the push to make US go with the Metric System, I reckon we'll overcome this as well...LOL!!

FReegards...MUD

52 posted on 11/18/2004 11:38:15 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH the HildaBeast's Hubby!!)
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To: Publius6961; graycamel
Now, there's a useful scale. Changes every day. Where do these doofus losers come from anyway?

Archaeology? I've seen the term BP used in the context of Carbon 14 dating. It sort of makes sense, there, since that is in fact what 14C dating purports to measure.

53 posted on 11/18/2004 11:38:21 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: nothernlights

So, in changing the current date to 2008, would it be considered a third term, or would we still be eligible for 4 MORE YEARS!!


54 posted on 11/18/2004 11:39:00 AM PST by msdrby (remind me to drink more water... and less coffee)
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To: Mudboy Slim

Anyone remember the decimal calender sketch from Saturday Night Live?

Classic.


55 posted on 11/18/2004 11:39:22 AM PST by Petronski (Okay, so today I *am* cranky.)
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To: Billthedrill

weird, the most important day is the day AFTER you signed up for FR?


56 posted on 11/18/2004 11:39:30 AM PST by dmz
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To: Professional Engineer
I like it!! Maybe a constitutional amendment is in order?
57 posted on 11/18/2004 11:43:54 AM PST by msdrby (remind me to drink more water... and less coffee)
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To: LtKerst
Thats funny! thats how to fight this..just keep saying Ad and BC,

How 'bout those who want to use "BC" and "AD" feel free to do so, and those who prefer "BCE" and "CE" feel free to do so?

58 posted on 11/18/2004 11:44:43 AM PST by malakhi
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To: .cnI redruM; Jean Chauvin; xzins; RnMomof7; HarleyD; Frumanchu
I told my kids if they ever came home from school with anything but B.C. and A.D. on their homework, I would march them and their teacher into the pricipal's office and tear up their homework in front of them.

Fear works.

59 posted on 11/18/2004 11:46:11 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Varda
BCE and CE are obnoxious

So don't use them. But why should it bother you if other people do?

60 posted on 11/18/2004 11:47:04 AM PST by malakhi
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