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Abortion argument unravels
Answers in Genesis ^ | November 16, 2004 | Alex Williams

Posted on 11/16/2004 2:30:51 PM PST by Tamar1973

While the demand for abortion grows,1 so does the scientific case against the arguments often used to support it. Recent powerful evidence comes from immunology.

Half a century ago, when the amazing mechanism of the human immune system was first being uncovered, Nobel prize-winning biologist Sir Peter Medawar made a significant comment. He declared that the survival of the genetically different child within a mother's womb contradicted the immunological laws that were thwarting their attempts at tissue transplantation.2 The immune system normally detects the presence of any "foreign" tissue in the body and it immediately sets up a defence against it (primarily what is now called the "killer T cell" mechanism). 

This caused early experiments in organ transplantation to fail--the recipient's immune system attacked and rejected the donor's "foreign" organ tissue. So why doesn't the mother's womb detect the presence of the "foreign" tissue of the developing embryo and try to attack and reject it? 

We now know that it does! And this is the cause of many miscarriages. Recent research has shown that the developing child puts up a very specific defence against the killer T cell attack. And as long as the defence mechanism works properly, the pregnancy will proceed to full term. However, when the defence mechanism fails, miscarriage results.

Tumour hijacks fetal enzyme

The lead author of the 1998 paper on IDO referred to in the main text, David Munn, has continued his research on IDO's role elsewhere in the body and found an exactly parallel process to the pregnancy case at work in the body's tolerance of tumours.1 Just as the embryo produces IDO to protect itself from the mother's immune system, so rogue tumour cells also use the same trick to stop a person's immune system from attacking and rejecting the tumour. These insights are helping to find new ways of treating tumours and reducing the rejection rate of surgical transplants.

Reference

  1. Munn, D.H. and Mellor, A.L., IDO and tolerance to tumours, Trends in Molecular Medicine 10(1):15-18, 2004.

In a landmark 1998 paper, researchers at the Medical College of Georgia, in Augusta, USA, found that the mammalian embryo (they worked with mice) produces a special enzyme, called indoleamine 2,3-dioxygenase, or "IDO," which suppresses the mother's T cell reaction and allows pregnancy to proceed.2 Follow-up work in humans revealed the same effect, and it was also demonstrated that the IDO was produced on the embryo side of the placental membrane (which separates mother from child) and not on the mother's side.3 Further work in mice showed that IDO production peaked during the formation of the placenta--the most crucial time for establishing that vital link between mother and child.4  And the most recent work in humans has established beyond doubt that IDO is a specific mechanism at the mother-child interface for preventing the mother's immune system from rejecting the child.5

But what does this have to do with abortion? Well, a common argument in favour of abortion is that a mother has the right to control what happens to her own body.6 However, this research shows very clearly that the baby is not part of the mother's body. The baby has a unique genetic makeup (only half its chromosomes come from the mother, the other half come from the father, and each combination of chromosomes is unique) and that condition is sufficient to cause the mother's immune system to identify the baby as "foreign" and it mounts an attack via the killer T cell system. In the mouse experiments, when IDO production was artificially suppressed, the mother's womb rapidly rejected the embryos.2 It is only because the baby is normally well prepared for life in the womb by producing IDO and suppressing the mother's T cell reaction, that pregnancy can be healthy and go full term.

This research also highlights the fact that the child's individuality--its unique genetic makeup--exists from the moment of conception. At conception, the new person's genetic instructions come together for the first time--in a single cell called the zygote. But it is not until day 6 that IDO production kicks in.5 Why day 6? Well day 6 is a preparation for day 7, when the new embryo first attaches itself to its mother's womb so that it can draw nutrients from its mother's bloodstream.7  This is exactly the time when the mother's killer T cells would normally begin to attack and reject it--if not for the amazing protection already provided by IDO production on the previous day. 

Psalm 139:13 tells us that God "knit me together in my mother's womb" and in Isaiah 46:3 God says "you whom I have upheld since you were conceived" (NIV). IDO is a marvellous part of God's system for individually "upholding" us in the womb and we should not violate it, or indeed the commandment not to take innocent human life, through the proliferation of abortion.

References and notes

  1. For example, legally restricted late-term (>20 weeks) abortion was introduced into Western Australia in 1998. Under this legislation, 95% of requests have been granted and terminations as late as 8 months have been approved. See Dickinson, J.E., Late pregnancy termination within a legislated medical environment, Aust. N.Z.J. Obstet. Gynaecol. 44(4):337-341, 2004.

  2. Munn, D.H., et al., Prevention of allogeneic fetal rejection by tryptophan catabolism, Science 281(5380):1122-1124, 1998.

  3. Kudo, Y. and Boyd, C.A., Human placental indoleamine 2,3-dioxygenase: cellular localization and characterization of an enzyme preventing fetal rejection, Biochim. Biophys. Acta. 1500(1):119-124, 2000.

  4. Suzuki, S., et al., Expression of indoleamine 2,3-dioxygenase and tryptophan 2,3-dioxygenase in early concepti, Biochem. J. 355(2):425-429, 2001.

  5. Kudo, Y., et al., Indoleamine 2,3-dioxygenase: distribution and function in the developing human placenta, J. Reprod. Immunol. 61(2):87-98, 2004.

  6. For example, pro-choice objectivist philosopher Dr. Leonard Peikoff (colleague and heir of objectivist founder Ayn Rand) has stated, "during the first trimester [the embryo] is a mass of relatively undifferentiated cells that exist as a part of a woman's body." <capmag.com/article.asp?ID=2404>, October 18, 2004.


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KEYWORDS: abortion; baby; christianity; genetics; health; immunesystem; mother
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Even many Jews believe that the child is simply part of the mother until birth. Science proves them wrong.
1 posted on 11/16/2004 2:30:51 PM PST by Tamar1973
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To: Tamar1973
Actually, since God is the author of all science, He ultimately proves them wrong.

Even an Rh factor situation would suggest that what is in the womb is DIFFERENT from the mother.

2 posted on 11/16/2004 2:34:40 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Tamar1973
Great pro-life book:

Unaborted Socrates

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0877848106/qid=1100644467/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-2422737-6911216?v=glance&s=books

3 posted on 11/16/2004 2:35:41 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: Tamar1973

This is a prayer answered. I am engaging a pro-abortion position on another board and this was AMMO from HEAVEN.


4 posted on 11/16/2004 2:52:13 PM PST by Nice50BMG (Bush won the Cold War against the 1960's hippies.)
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To: bushisdamanin04
Unaborted Socrates: A Dramatic Debate on the Issues Surrounding Abortion

Now, doesn't that look better?

5 posted on 11/16/2004 2:53:21 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Bush received 51% of the popular vote, more than Bill Clinton ever did. SO THERE!)
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To: Nice50BMG
This is a prayer answered. I am engaging a pro-abortion position on another board and this was AMMO from HEAVEN.

Glad to be of service.

6 posted on 11/16/2004 2:54:45 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Bush received 51% of the popular vote, more than Bill Clinton ever did. SO THERE!)
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To: Tamar1973
The baby has a unique genetic makeup (only half its chromosomes come from the mother, the other half come from the father, and each combination of chromosomes is unique)

Unique in all the world and for all time.

7 posted on 11/16/2004 2:55:05 PM PST by TigersEye ("protecting baby - good. killing baby - bad.")
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To: Tamar1973

Thanks for posting. This one lit me up so much when I saw it I raced into the kitchen to tell my wife about it!


8 posted on 11/16/2004 2:55:24 PM PST by Aldin (George Miller's Rebellious Serf)
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To: Nice50BMG
If you haven't seen it you may be able to use this post as ammo too.
9 posted on 11/16/2004 2:57:10 PM PST by TigersEye ("protecting baby - good. killing baby - bad.")
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To: Tamar1973; afraidfortherepublic; AlbionGirl; anniegetyourgun; Aquinasfan; Archangelsk; A-teamMom; ..
Pro-life/pro-baby ping...

And on Day 7.. this little one attached itself to its mothers womb so that it could live.

10 posted on 11/16/2004 3:09:21 PM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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To: MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...
Pro-Life PING

Please FreepMail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

11 posted on 11/16/2004 3:16:51 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: Tamar1973
Thank you kindly! I'm still learning the extras, such as links. The "extras" here work much differently from other boards I've posted to.

As an aside, I read the book in a couple of days; it is great. I then used the logical arguments on a liberal on a board I was posting to then and he finally said something to the effect of, "I'm not going to do this anymore. You are backing me into a corner and it isn't fair." I was astonished that he would make such an admission, but the basic logic used in the book is great.

12 posted on 11/16/2004 3:18:12 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: anniegetyourgun

Doesn't matter. Even if the baby were the mother's clone it would still be wrong to abort it. I don't even think the "fetus is part of the mother" argument is worth having.

The question is do we value human life or don't we? Is it okay for us to kill our children or not? These are questions that go beyond religion even. I have recently read an atheist (an atheist!) argue very eloquently against abortion. I don't remember the lady's name.


13 posted on 11/16/2004 3:53:39 PM PST by freeparella (I will always thank the Lord; I will never stop praising Him.)
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To: bushisdamanin04
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14 posted on 11/16/2004 4:03:16 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Bush received 51% of the popular vote, more than Bill Clinton ever did. SO THERE!)
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To: Tamar1973; 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; Askel5; attagirl; ...

ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

15 posted on 11/16/2004 4:06:02 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Once, worked in the woods as a lumberjack, but I just couldn't hack it. They gave me the axe.)
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To: Tamar1973
I found the Peterson case interesting. He got 2nd degree murder for allegedly killing an unborn child. Veeeeery Interesting......
16 posted on 11/16/2004 4:10:39 PM PST by halfright (3,000 Americans murdered 9/11, Never forgive, never forget, be on guard!)
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He got 2nd degree murder for allegedly killing an unborn child

You can remove the "allegedly" now. He's been convicted of the murders.

17 posted on 11/16/2004 4:23:57 PM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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To: Zon; A Jovial Cad; JeffAtlanta

Ping


18 posted on 11/16/2004 5:16:20 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: cgk

And then proceeded to build the first organ for survival, the placenta. Some believe the placenta and amniotic sac are from the Mother ... they are built by the little one and them cast off at birth, to live in the air world. But the tissues are rich in stem cells that are already curing diseases.


19 posted on 11/16/2004 5:19:23 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Tamar1973
Many condem the Nazi Jewish Holocaust while praising the American Jewish Holocaust. See- Jews for Life: Pro-life issues and Politics

The Silent Holocaust in Israel - Abortionists kill more children than terrorists

"He who destroys his own children…who wrecks the handiwork of G-D…brings hunger, plague, and the sword upon the world." —Zohar, Shemos (Exodus)

"Abortion is murder, plain and simple." —Rabbi Moshe Sternbuch, Da Ma Shetoshiv Abortion in the State of Israel

The Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal indicted and convicted ten Nazi leaders for "encouraging and compelling abortions," an act which the Tribunal characterized as "a crime against humanity." As with their other crimes against humanity, the Nazis protested that "we were just following orders." Lieutenant General Richard Hildebrandt, the SS (Schutzstaffel) Chief of the RKFVD's Race and Settlement Office in Berlin, stated that "Up to now nobody had the idea to see in this interruption of pregnancy a crime against humanity." - Nuremberg Military Tribunals,IV:1081-84. Nuremberg: NO-3512.

20 posted on 11/16/2004 5:30:00 PM PST by Ed Current
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