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BTW, Timm, how old are you, and what do you do for a living? We'd all like to know. Series, I've been TRYING to follow tim22's logic though this thread; but have found it is impossible. Sounds like a young liberal weasle who has never shot a weapon and lives in a totally isolated altruistic world on cloud-nine with a silver lining. My children have more balls than this guy. They are both college graduates with karate black belts, have good jobs, no tattoos, piercings and straight! Now on the other hand I think timm22 is on the flip side...

The flip side, eh? What's that supposed to mean?

I usually don't like to give out my age or profession, because I think it will be unfairly used to try to support or discredit my argument. I think if an argument is true, it doesn't matter who is giving it.

But I think I will make an exception in your case.

I am 23 years old, currently serving in the United States Army and preparing to deploy to Iraq. Prior to that I was in my last semester of school, which I voluntarily chose to suspend in order to take part in this deployment.

I guess I could be described as a liberal in the classical sense. I'll let you examine my posting history- longer than yours, I believe- to find out if the label fits. I've shot everything from BB's to a 120mm main gun, and my weapons of choice now are my M4 and the Ma Duece. I do have a tattoo (it says "MOLON LABE") and I'm straight as an arrow.

Now, can we discuss the issue like adults or do you want to insult me further?