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To: Askel5
Where will that leave our Black Ops boys and the squads the Executive Branch is now empowered to assign for assassination duty?

If they're caught, they're hosed. That's the way it's always been. And wearing the uniform hasn't done a f***ing thing to protect our soldiers and Marines over the years.

Are the alumnae of Iran-Contra, for example, or the assassins now a part of our arsenal for the War on Terror somehow barred from any of the basic protections against torture, humiliation or imprisonment without just cause?

If they're caught, they're hosed. That's the way it's always been. And wearing the uniform hasn't done a f***ing thing to protect our soldiers and Marines over the years.

But don't recasting the basic human rights on which Geneva is based as conditional at best.

I'm sorry. Terrorists are not "human" in that sense. They've made it abundantly clear that they disdain the very notion of "human rights." I merely propose paying them in their preferred coin.

Those who demand that we punctilliously observe every jot and tittle--including the imaginary ones--of the Geneva Convention, while excusing the enemy's grossest violations thereof, are giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States.

They need to either shut up, or they may discover that those of us who are intent on winning this war may start noticing them, and that we might start reading Article III, Section 3 of the US Constitution.

361 posted on 11/12/2004 3:21:28 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
Those who demand that we punctilliously observe every jot and tittle--including the imaginary ones--of the Geneva Convention, while excusing the enemy's grossest violations thereof, are giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States.

They need to either shut up, or they may discover that those of us who are intent on winning this war may start noticing them, and that we might start reading Article III, Section 3 of the US Constitution.

So ... basically, what you're saying here is that the only way to "win" this, the fourth in a War on a Noun series, is to beat Terrorists at their own game?

I don't take kindly to your threats, Poohbah. I have no doubt whatsoever that your ilk will prevail and folks like me will be erased forever one day but until then, shove it up your paper asshole.

386 posted on 11/12/2004 3:43:56 PM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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