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Gunning for Gun Clubs
St. Paul Pioneer Press ^ | 11/12/04 | unsigned editorial

Posted on 11/12/2004 7:12:18 AM PST by brbethke

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To: MineralMan
Not at present. But given that we're a member-owned and -operated club, we really don't have the option of pulling up stakes and relocating to a more favorable business climate. We either survive or shut down where we are.

Right now, we have good relations with our neighbors and are grandfathered into the local zoning. But looking five years down the road -- well, we're concerned.

21 posted on 11/12/2004 8:06:28 AM PST by brbethke
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To: brbethke

Groovy!


22 posted on 11/12/2004 8:07:27 AM PST by Dead Corpse (My days of taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle)
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To: MineralMan
We're trying. Need to get the house down here sold first. Zon and Ana are already up North with her parents. Awefully lonely down here...

House is on the market, its up to a perspective homebuyer now....

23 posted on 11/12/2004 8:08:42 AM PST by Dead Corpse (My days of taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle)
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To: brbethke

"Right now, we have good relations with our neighbors and are grandfathered into the local zoning. But looking five years down the road -- well, we're concerned."

Good deal. But I know how hard it is when folks are building those huge houses along 10th. As they get closer to the Gun Club, I imagine you're going to get complaints. I hope you'll be able to fend them off. Of course, having that nice big sign should let folks know you're there. [grin]


24 posted on 11/12/2004 8:11:11 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Dead Corpse

I had no idea you were moving up to the land of the giant mosquito. I was sure you were a lifetime Texan.

Well, we may be neighbors soon.


25 posted on 11/12/2004 8:12:16 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
I wanted to stay. The addition of Ana in our lives changed the equation. We want to raise her with the full involvement of the rest of both of our families. 95% of which are in MN and refuse to consider moving to Texas.

We also want to homeschool her, and any future siblings, and have Zon as either a stay at home, or a work at home Mom. Something my darling wife has discovered she thoroughly enjoys. Somewhat to her surprise. I, of course, have no problems with that sentiment at all and want to do everything I can to ensure I can provide for both of them.

Just like any man would want for his family. ;-)

26 posted on 11/12/2004 8:18:04 AM PST by Dead Corpse (My days of taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle)
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To: Dead Corpse

Well, despite the fact that Minnesota is a stronghold for the liberals, that area of St. Paul is full of hard-working, no-nonsense folks.

My wife and I looked at a lot of neighborhoods when we moved out here, and chose the North-Eastern corner of St. Paul for many reasons.

There are still some good bargains in houses there, and it's close to everything. Recommended.

The only drawback is that it's a very multi-ethnic part of the area, but everyone I've met seem to be embracing the American dream and are working hard towards it. Kids play in the street and the crime rate is low.

I think you'll like it.


27 posted on 11/12/2004 8:25:45 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
For that particular development, we negotiated a deal with the developer and the town council to require notification clauses in the contracts. The people buying those houses are signing stipulations stating that they know there's an existing gun range less than half a mile down the road.

Unfortunately, that's only an acknowledgement of an existing condition; it doesn't prevent their trying to change conditions if they find them not to their taste in the future.

One thing that worries me is that the people building out here now really don't understand that they're moving out into Real Country. For example, this past fall we were the subject of a long series of angry noise complaints from people who didn't know that both goose and mourning-dove seasons opened September 4, and that the early-morning shooting they were hearing was from hunters in the Bayport WMA, and not the gun club.

28 posted on 11/12/2004 8:30:46 AM PST by brbethke
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Thanks for your interest and comments. I'm logging off now so I can finish loading the Jeep and hit the road. We've got three more doe tags to fill and two and a half days to do it, so wish me luck.

Regards,
~BRB

29 posted on 11/12/2004 8:35:52 AM PST by brbethke
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To: brbethke

"One thing that worries me is that the people building out here now really don't understand that they're moving out into Real Country."

Yes, and the more people who move out there, the less it'll be that way. Folks move out of the suburbs so they can have a couple acres of lawn to mow, or even more. But then they want all the services they had in the suburbs, not realizing that getting them will essentially destroy the semi-rural area they moved to.

Sad business, and it's going to get worse. Since I just moved to MN, that was my first drive out on 10th. I live over in NE St. Paul, but do a lot of my shopping on Century and in Woodbury, since I'm right off McKnight. It's a pretty area over by your gun club, but I suspect that the $400K and up crowd are going to be heading over there en masse, especially when the I-94 &I-694 work is done. Pretty easy commute.

OTOH, I suppose the property the gun club is on will be worth a lot more then. Maybe you'll eventually have to relocate further out.


30 posted on 11/12/2004 8:40:08 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Who dat?

Should have been more specific and said that I think they should make sound suppressors available for purchase by all law-abiding citizens WITHOUT having to jump through BATF/Treasury hoops! The ONLY reason I don't have any "goodies" (sound suppressors, full-auto weapons, short-barreled, etc.) is because, even though I am among the law-abiding, I DO NOT want to highlight myself to a government that may be friendly to me now, but persecute and prosecute me as a owner of such weapons in the future.


31 posted on 11/12/2004 8:46:04 AM PST by DocH (Release ALL your Navy records AND your private journal Kerry!)
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To: brbethke
We've got three more doe tags to fill and two and a half days to do it, so wish me luck.

Good Luck! Happy hunting...

32 posted on 11/12/2004 9:03:31 AM PST by Dead Corpse (My days of taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle)
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To: MineralMan
We both grew up in Anoka county. Very familiar with pretty much the enitre State. Relatives scattered from Albert Lee to Duluth and everywhere in bewteen.

Multi-ethnic? Hehhe... come on down to Austin, TX sometime if you wanna see "multi-ethnic". I've got no problems with all that as long as everyone is getting along and not being jerks in general. People moving in and setting up their own little barrio or ghetto are not welcome and should really grow the f**k up...

33 posted on 11/12/2004 9:07:21 AM PST by Dead Corpse (My days of taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle)
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To: brbethke

There is a great solution. Push for the de-regulation of sound suppresed weapons (silencers). Then the noobes won't have to listen to all that nasty banging. Maybe you can get them on the bandwagon and take a bite out of the NFA...


34 posted on 11/12/2004 9:09:45 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: dljordan
Kinda tough to find one for my .308. It might suppress the noise but not the crack as the round breaks the sound barrier. Besides there's that pesky BATF (F troop) rule that you can't have a threaded barrel.


But suppressing the report should address most noise complaints.

And I think you may be wrong about bans on threaded barrels (especially since the AWB sunsetted.)
35 posted on 11/12/2004 9:10:18 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: brbethke

BTTT


36 posted on 11/12/2004 9:11:15 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: brbethke

You're living in the parallel Minnesota, where rational thought prevails - send us a postcard now and then!


37 posted on 11/12/2004 10:43:37 AM PST by McClintock
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To: Beelzebubba

I hope I'm wrong. The rules were ridiculous.


38 posted on 11/12/2004 10:51:42 AM PST by dljordan
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Sound suppressors for .308 are east to find, and threaded barrels are now legal with a $200 Tax Stamp. I have one on my AR-15 and will soon have one on my AR-10. I just had a flash suppressor installed on another AR-15 A3, for $119.

Contact Scott at The Freedom Armory; he can help you.

I use Advanced Armament hardware on all my Class III weapons. It's mil-spec and can't be beat.

39 posted on 11/12/2004 10:55:41 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
threaded barrels are now legal with a $200 Tax Stamp.


I am quite certain that threaded barrels have never required a tax stamp. Short barrels, yes, and machine guns and silencers.
40 posted on 11/13/2004 10:01:11 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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