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1 posted on 11/10/2004 10:32:57 AM PST by mrustow
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This just in, the media is biased, therefore any poll supported by said media is biased. These people are NOT to be trusted.


2 posted on 11/10/2004 10:37:47 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Where do bigots get the idea that God is as close minded as they are?)
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"They would have been used as 'evidence' to support a rigged vote, had the Democrats had the opportunity to do so."

This fits in with the 60 Minutes report right before election day that electronic voting machines are unreliable and easily hacked. Seems like a very carefully orchestrated set up to claim fraud after the election.

3 posted on 11/10/2004 10:46:04 AM PST by leftcoastlibertarian
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VERY interesting article.

We must NEVER forget the type of people we're dealing with.


6 posted on 11/10/2004 10:52:07 AM PST by cvq3842
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Interesting analysis, with a lot of remarkable details.

I respectfully disagree with the conclusion, however. Media bias didn't work as successfully as they hoped, especially because of Rathergate, but I'm pretty sure it helped kerry by at least 5% and probably more.

The great majority of uninformed voters get their news from the papers and the talking heads. And what they got from these sources was major lying and obfuscation for four years, deriding and demonizing bush and covering for the Dems and kerry.

Smart voters go on the internet and look into the facts for themselves. But millions of voters simply don't do that, and never see what we see. They get their opinions from TV, from neighbors, from teachers, from Hollywood, and they suck it all in without really noticing where it comes from.


7 posted on 11/10/2004 11:02:01 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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BTTT


8 posted on 11/10/2004 11:03:51 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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Damned good read...it's bookmarked for liberals who scream that this election was stolen as well.


9 posted on 11/10/2004 11:08:00 AM PST by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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I will point out the bogus exit polls were immediately discredited on FR after they were posted on drudge, NRO and wonkette. Most of the posters here were calling it a fraud before anyone in the MSM or the blogs.


10 posted on 11/10/2004 11:10:21 AM PST by orangelobster
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Overlooked in all this is the compelling evidence of market manipulation via the exit polls that should trigger an SEC investigation.


11 posted on 11/10/2004 11:27:06 AM PST by thoughtomator (The Era of Old Media is over! Long live the Pajamasphere!)
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Great post. Just what I was looking for. Bookmark for later printing.


12 posted on 11/10/2004 11:30:45 AM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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they sold their integrity and their reputation just to help skerry win... and he STILL lost!!!


4 MORE YEARS!!!

13 posted on 11/10/2004 11:36:42 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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In lieu of a vanity post, and because this topic is about rigged polls, I offer this question from today's (11/10/04) Zogby online poll for subscribers:

Which of the following statements comes closest to your own opinion - A or B?

Statement A: The country is deeply divided and the President and Republicans in Congress need to make some compromises with the Democrats in Congress to try to bring the country together?

Statement B: The President and Republicans in Congress won a mandate from the people and they should go ahead with their agenda regardless of what the Democrats think.

Needless to say, I chose "B", but look at "A". Why do the Republicans have to compromise with the Democrats? Shouldn't the losers be more obliged to compromise with the winners?

Shouldn't the question be more properly worded "Should the Congressional Republicans and Democrats both make some compromises to bring the country together?"

14 posted on 11/10/2004 11:44:47 AM PST by SpinyNorman (Stop the attempted coup d'etat by the liberal media! Vote Bush!! DONE!!!!)
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If FCC chief Michael Powell has any cojones, he will investigate the collusion between the Kerry campaign and ABC, CBS, and CNN. And those of us concerned with such corruption must beat the drum from now until 2008, reminding voters that exit polls are just another form of Democrat disinformation.
The FCC is not about to step up to the plate and challenge broadcast journalism. It is a stretch to suggest that even the SCOTUS is willing to be independent of the consensus of journalism - the consensus of journalists that journalism is objective. After all, only one justice of the Supreme Court (Thomas) refuses to read the newspapers. All the others subject themselves to the influence of negative, superficial, arrogant journalism. And this is the same bunch that upheld McCain-Feingold, which makes no sense as law if you understand that the press which does not include broadcasting is protected, by the First Amendment, from any governmental requirement to be "fair."

But then we ought at least to try, by suing the FCC and its licensees. Certainly, we need not wait for Congress to do anything courageous like that!

Why Broadcast Journalism is
Unnecessary and Illegitimate

15 posted on 11/10/2004 12:01:39 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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Bump.


16 posted on 11/10/2004 12:09:31 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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How about people just lying to exit pollers? I know I have and would do so again.


19 posted on 11/10/2004 1:01:12 PM PST by glorgau
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When FReepers, the Republican activists associated with the Web site Free Republic protested, leftist politicians and journalists -- who previously had never met a rioter they didn't like -- ignored the law, and smeared the FReepers with the charge that they'd "rioted."




Speaking of urban myths.

There were no Freepers involved in that very pivotal event. They were mostly NYC Republicans and mostly lawyers, who were flown down to prevent this from happening.


30 posted on 11/11/2004 9:35:26 AM PST by Drunken Lout
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bump


43 posted on 11/11/2004 6:29:10 PM PST by foreverfree
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This subject was reported on NBC evening news tonight. The organization (I think) Electionwatch.org was cited. They said the extra votes in Ohio were just from one machine and quickly fixed. The number of Florida voters who were registered as Democrats and voted Republican were also cited. I was amazed that NBC even let this out.


45 posted on 11/11/2004 6:45:24 PM PST by swmobuffalo (the only good terrorist is a dead one)
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Lazy BTTT...


47 posted on 11/11/2004 6:53:15 PM PST by LowOiL (Christian and proud of it !)
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Msg to Carol Roberts (D) (WPB Election Super): You won't ever forget us will you Carol?

8^)

5.56mm

49 posted on 11/11/2004 7:07:15 PM PST by M Kehoe
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As an addendum, we all know as mentioned that when the networks called FL for Gore, polls weren't closed.

But I ran across what the count, from the closed precincts, was at the time they made the call a while back;

Bush +6, with 4% reporting

Consider that for a moment. Bush up, polls not yet closed, but the networks felt they had to make the call for Gore...strange, huh?


50 posted on 11/11/2004 7:09:23 PM PST by swilhelm73 (I voted for Bush. You're welcome.)
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