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Europeans face tough choices on Islam
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 11/6/04 | Brian Murphy - AP

Posted on 11/06/2004 3:10:31 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: parisa; dennisw
Wasn't that the MOOPS? The Moores waddled into Penn State last weekend.
21 posted on 11/06/2004 3:53:11 PM PST by FredZarguna (Ready now thy pajamas. For the Dark Queen begins to gather all evil things unto herself.)
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To: Chode

... 3030, 30-0-6 ...


22 posted on 11/06/2004 3:54:04 PM PST by FredZarguna (Ready now thy pajamas. For the Dark Queen begins to gather all evil things unto herself.)
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To: Lutonian
It is part of their culture to assassinate and terrorise people. If we do not respect that, then we must be NAZI scum.

No, I believe that shoe goes over the foot that worships

Hey, isn't that the sound of Anne Frank rolling over?

23 posted on 11/06/2004 3:55:53 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Be legal or be gone.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Let's enjoy Bush's victory for a bit... and then get to work defeating his importation of Islam and other third-world maladies into this country.
24 posted on 11/06/2004 4:00:11 PM PST by dagnabbit (Don't let Europe happen to America. Stop Islamic immigration.)
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To: NormsRevenge
europe is in a state of denial, but i am not sure if it is because they truly do not believe their culture is at risk, or if because they believe they can live peacefully in segregation with the muslims.

i wonder if the dutch and the rest of the eu respond, or if this is simply media hype.

i am waiting for jacques chirac to blame bush for mounting terrorist threats in europe....

26 posted on 11/06/2004 4:03:59 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: NormsRevenge

"A 22-year-old student, Abdul Salam, said he tries to tell Christian friends that Muslims have been in Europe since the Moors crossed into Spain in the 8th century.

"So I don't know what to think when people say I don't belong here because I'm Muslim," he said. "I was born here. I don't even speak Arabic. I am European. That's what I feel. That's what I am."

And Christians have beem in the middle-east almost 8 centuries before Mohammad was born!! What is his point? When was the last time a church was built on islamic lands or a synagogue or a shrine of other faiths? How come there are no christians in the ME anymore? There is a clear disconnect here. Islam's growing reality in Europe is chafing against a secular one that is demographically imploding, which does not want to come to terms with this reality.
Multiculturalism is a one way street for muslims that want to live in europe or anywhere in the west. There will be a day of reckoning and I see a future in which tolerance to immigrants (unfortunately all) give way to fear then anger and finally fascism. Europe has see this before and unfortunately will see it again.


27 posted on 11/06/2004 4:04:58 PM PST by bubman
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To: NormsRevenge

As the saying goes, sleep with dogs and wake up with fleas.


28 posted on 11/06/2004 4:08:46 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: NormsRevenge

"The workers, mostly Turks, assimilated well into Dutch society."

I doubt it. So they turned into Dutch Reformed or agnostics? If the remain Muslim, they have not assimilated.


29 posted on 11/06/2004 4:10:11 PM PST by eleni121 (NO more reaching out!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Unfortunately, I think the vast majority of Europeans have lost their backbone--they have become almost hopelessly liberal, secular, and (most of all) complacent. Two World Wars in one century probably killed off a lot of the Alpha male gene pool over there. Unlike previous Muslim invasions (and this IS an invasion), this one is relatively peaceful and taking place in slow motion. As a result, there is no real tipping point or sense of impending crisis--this takes advantage of European complacency.

I predict that dealing with the Muslim problem will be the trigger that finally wakes Europeans up from their spiritual coma. I can't predict what will cause European attitudes to change; it may simply be a new generation that grows up feeling more threatened than free. When they start to finally take back their land, it will be the cause that defines a generation. Unfortunately, the cost will be very high and it may be too late to save all of Europe as we have known it.


30 posted on 11/06/2004 4:11:36 PM PST by rbg81
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To: parisa
Islam is a religion of peace. Europe will be peaceful under Islam because anyone who objects to Islam will achieve the peace of the grave.
31 posted on 11/06/2004 4:12:03 PM PST by Woodworker
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To: NormsRevenge

btt


32 posted on 11/06/2004 4:14:15 PM PST by Ciexyz (Bush still rules. The sun shines over America.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"He was trying to warn us about the dangers of radical Islam," said teacher Geert Plas as he visited the site where Van Gogh was ambushed. "Now maybe we'll listen. To me this is not just a small event. It's part of the World Trade Center and Madrid. We must see this."

No, no, no! You must roll over on your back, whimper and pee on yourself all the while whining about how you've done nothing wrong and can't we all just get along. Radical muslims respect that and you'll be fine.

33 posted on 11/06/2004 4:17:10 PM PST by GBA
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To: NormsRevenge

So where are any Muslims condeming the violene? If they don't speak up then they will probably end up being victims themselves, even the innocent ones. Does anyone know of any group or organization of Muslims that has been formed to try and moderate the situation? I haven't heard of any. If you don't speak up against something then you may be for it.


34 posted on 11/06/2004 4:51:31 PM PST by hardworking
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To: Pitiricus

It's eventually going to lead to more blood spilling than World War II. It's not a matter of if, but when.


35 posted on 11/06/2004 4:52:55 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: ken5050

I must say that I disagree with you. There is a very good chance that most European countries will
1. Have clashes with the crazies
2. Live in a sort of "structured fear" just as they did when Hitler began his rise
3. Adjust to the situation
4. In at least one of them, probably France, a Muslim will end up being elected to a position of importance.
This is not a temporary situation. Indeed, it is entirely possible that we will see, one by one, the great Christian churches of Europe destroyed
Europeans have a mindset of "adjust" to life and they will carry it forward to a new Islamic way of life....sad, very sad


36 posted on 11/06/2004 4:56:33 PM PST by hardworking
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To: dennisw

:'D


37 posted on 11/06/2004 4:57:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: NormsRevenge
Idiots in all the European governments and the US as well should DEMAND FROM SAUDI ARABIA AND IRAN that since they financed the buildings of Mosques in the West, TTHEY MUST ALLOW THE WEST TO BUILD CHURCHES IN SAUDI ARABIA AND IRAN, or we will demolish their mosques in the West. THAT IS THE ONLY ANSWER TO ISLAMIC TERRORISM. That will expose to the whole world their intolerance and put them on the spot.
38 posted on 11/06/2004 5:05:39 PM PST by philosofy123
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To: NormsRevenge

""I'm afraid. I can't deny it," said Idrissi, who emigrated from Morocco in 1978. "I feel respect for Muslims is falling away in Europe."

WELL DUH I wonder Why


39 posted on 11/06/2004 5:12:18 PM PST by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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