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Looks like Bush made his case and we'll have our way.
1 posted on 11/06/2004 12:11:09 PM PST by kfowler1
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But Zogby said people are against Social Security reform.


2 posted on 11/06/2004 12:15:40 PM PST by ambrose
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I hope it happens. And I also hope they take a hard look at the Social Security administration. A recent GAO report says this about disability overpayments to people not qualified. Also, the people who do deserve disability are waiting years, sometimes dying first, to get approved. See the comments here:
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?SSDC&251

AO-04-929

United States Government Accountability Office

September 2004

DISABILITY INSURANCE

SSA Should Strengthen Its Efforts to Detect and Prevent Overpayments GAO-04-929

Highlights of GAO-04-929, a report to the Chairman, Committee on Finance, U.S. Senate

The Social Security Administration's (SSA) Disability Insurance (DI) program is one of the nation's largest cash assistance programs for disabled workers. In fiscal year 2003, the DI program provided about $70 billion in financial assistance to approximately 7.5 million disabled workers, their spouses, and dependent children. This program has grown in recent years and is poised to grow further as the baby boom generation
ages. The Senate Committee on Finance asked GAO to (1) determine the amount of overpayments in the DI program, particularly those attributable to earnings or work activity, and (2) identify any vulnerabilities in SSA's processes and policies ........`snip`

Total Overpayment Debt Is Increasing (1999-2003)
Dollars in millions 3,000

2,500

2,000

1,500

1,000

500

0 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 Year

Source: GAO analysis based on SSA data.

www.gao.gov/cgi-bin/getrpt?GAO-04-929.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/useftp.cgi?IPaddress=162.140.64.88&filename=d04929.txt&directory=/diskb/wais/data/gao


4 posted on 11/06/2004 12:17:42 PM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: kfowler1
Support jumps to 67% if the personal accounts are accompanied by a guarantee that everyone who wants to remain in the current system can do so and receive their promised benefits. Only 19% are opposed to such a proposal.

Then let's roll.

6 posted on 11/06/2004 12:19:33 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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oh, but NO. Bush won because of either mercenary evangelicals, or osama-terrified rednecks.


8 posted on 11/06/2004 12:20:36 PM PST by smonk
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YIKES!!! 67%????????? No WAAAAYYYYYY...

How can this BE? We were repeatedly told there would be wailing and riots in the streets if President Bush attempted to mess with Social Security...

I'm shocked ;)


9 posted on 11/06/2004 12:20:37 PM PST by SE Mom (Reeling from re-election rapture!)
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To: kfowler1

It is time for Social Security reform. It should be privatized.


10 posted on 11/06/2004 12:23:13 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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Yeah, that's for the red zone folks but what do the mensa blues think? It is really the prudent, well thought out well reasoned views of the knee jerk neocommunist, left-wing anti-Bushies that the old timey media relies on for their headlines.


13 posted on 11/06/2004 12:28:25 PM PST by Tacis (Kerry - You Can't Make A Silk Purse Out Of A Lazy, Lying, Elitist Scumbag!)
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To: Perlstein
"Rasmussen: Social Security Reform - 67% Support"

Clearly, Democrats need to represent the remaining 33% by showing that they still have a voice against such an idea!

17 posted on 11/06/2004 12:36:04 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Hope this shuts the DIMs up, but, of course it won't. To them this will mean that everyone needs to become 'educated' and 'informed' about what the evil Bush is REALLY up to.


18 posted on 11/06/2004 12:36:40 PM PST by ml1954
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To: kfowler1

Support jumps to 67% if the personal accounts are accompanied by a guarantee that everyone who wants to remain in the current system can do so and receive their promised benefits.



This is what it is all about. CHOICE.


26 posted on 11/06/2004 1:01:37 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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Bump!


28 posted on 11/06/2004 1:03:57 PM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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Conservatives must ensure that the perfect doesn't become the enemy of the good. Just get something going where people can divert some of the 6.2% into private accounts, where they'll get statements showing the value. 1%, 2%, it doesn't matter how much. Accept big restrictions at first: only approved mutual funds, whatever. But if we get the ball rolling here, they can always expand it later.

Once people get these account statements, and they can access their balances online, they'll realize that the Dems are no good for the market. And they'll keep electing republicans, because republicans are good for this account.

Even with 1%, if you're making $50,000, that's $500 per year, and after say eight years, that'll be $4,000 plus whatever it's grown. People will then demand that instead of 1%, they can put 2% or 3% in there. It'll become the Democrats worse nightmare.

After protecting us from terrorism, this is the most important thing Bush can do in the next term. Getting this started will ensure that the country remains conservative for another generation.

29 posted on 11/06/2004 1:08:36 PM PST by Koblenz (Holland: a very tolerant country. Until someone shoots you on a public street in broad daylight...)
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Future obligations to Social Security and Medicare exceed $29.8 trillion. Combine that with intragovernmental debt, and the total burden is an unimaginable $35 trillion. Is there even that much money in print?

Privatization is long overdue. SS reform is the third rail and W is the first politician with the guts to take it head on.


30 posted on 11/06/2004 1:09:03 PM PST by Justin (Be an economic manly-man.)
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SSHHH, don't tell Nancy Pelosi......

Let them keep on obstructing. We'll get beyond the 60 republican senators a lot sooner.

32 posted on 11/06/2004 1:21:23 PM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR POWERS EQUAL TO THE TASKS)
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I a bit 'polled out'. W should just do it.


36 posted on 11/06/2004 1:38:42 PM PST by canalabamian (Common sense, unfortunately, is not very common)
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It always polls low on a Tuesday. Wait until Friday for real results.

Hey! At least he ain't Zogby.

40 posted on 11/09/2004 4:16:53 PM PST by Petronski (Great job team! Head back to base for debriefing and cocktails.)
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I don't think this means much of significance. The idea of reform is that people don't get "their promised benefits"......because we can't afford to pay them out.

The sooner that people get it through their thick skulls that this is the case, the sooner we can get on with true reform.

This nonsense that people can have their social security cake and eat it too is the problem......privatization WILL kill social security as we know it -- that is the appeal of the idea. Sure, we can SAY that everyone gets their benefits anyway, but the numbers just don't add up.


43 posted on 11/09/2004 5:00:48 PM PST by RFEngineer
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WOW! Those polls think I should be able to use my OWN MONEY for my OWN RETIREMENT!

Gee, thanks! For those opposed: bite me!


45 posted on 11/09/2004 5:11:10 PM PST by Fledermaus (Two things I'm glad I'm not: 1) a sore loser Dem, and 2) a terrorist in Fallujah)
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