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1 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:51 PM PST by swilhelm73
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ONE thing is very simple to understand..... Republican vs. Democrat:

The Democrats are against capital punishment.... ok..... many Catholic and Protestant Christians ARE. The thing that twists my gut is this: To put to death to a human being who has been tried and convicted of horrible crimes (Ted Bundy, the Green River killer, and many others)is WRONG, but to put to death an innocent baby, a BABY....who has never committed any sin (unless being inconvenient is a sin)is RIGHT? Sorry folks, but THIS is INSANE! I'm not just talking the talk..... I have walked the walk! I would never IMAGINE doing otherwise! To me, this is just backwards, even evil. The guilty are spared, but the innocent are not.


36 posted on 11/05/2004 7:57:12 PM PST by Just Lori (Decency, strength, and integrity have triumphed!)
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To: swilhelm73; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
On his program Friday night, Raymond Arroyo gave a similar breakdown "by bishop". It clearly reflected the difference in the messages delivered by each one. In those states where diocesan bishops were more outspoken on the abortion issue, the percentage of catholic vote for Bush was commensurately higher. Missing from those statistics, was the breakdown by 'liberal' bishops. Now "that" would have been interesting!

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42 posted on 11/06/2004 1:09:06 AM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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A Catholic with a major party nomination should have won the Catholic vote by several million.

If that's true, Catholics shouldn't be allowed to vote.

That's like saying, "Mondale should have gotten the Protestant vote".

46 posted on 11/06/2004 3:25:30 AM PST by Jim Noble (FR Iraq policy debate begins 11/3/04. Pass the word.)
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To: swilhelm73

He lost his faith and his hairbrush too.


47 posted on 11/06/2004 3:32:56 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Dan Rather plans to spend the winter in Valley Forgery.-hflynn)
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The point that some people are still missing is: Kerry is not a "Kennedy" Catholic. I will bet bottom dollar that you will not see him in a Roman Catholic Church again, for a long time. And, contrary to popular belief, we Catholics are not the lemmings that the MSM and certain other parties are trying to make us seem. In fact most of us were ashamed every time Kerry uttered the words, "I was an alter boy."


49 posted on 11/06/2004 3:40:14 AM PST by SAMS
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The key paragraph in this article:

"In fact, Catholics for Bush made it unnecessary to begin counting provisional ballots in Ohio. Ohio Catholics cast 780,000 votes for Bush and 624,000 for Kerry, a difference of 156,000 votes. Compare that to the overall vote difference for all Ohio ballots: which was 136,000. Thus it can be asserted that Kerry lost Ohio, and therefore the election, because he couldn't get the support of people of his own faith in Ohio."

Can I get an Amen here?!

52 posted on 11/06/2004 4:13:44 AM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought."-Pope JPII)
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Catholics who attend Mass weekly voted for Bush by 55% to 44%.

This number should have been much higher for Bush. I'm glad to see FL Catholics voted for Bush 2 to 1 over Kerry, but it's still not enough. What is wrong with these people????

55 posted on 11/06/2004 4:59:15 AM PST by dansangel (Thank You GOD for answering our prayers!)
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How can he lose something he never really had ????


57 posted on 11/06/2004 5:30:11 AM PST by clamper1797 (VA-93 --- CVA-41 Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72-73)
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Honestly, if there were more Catholics that practiced actually being Catholic the margin for Bush would have been much greater.


64 posted on 11/06/2004 7:43:03 AM PST by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: swilhelm73; NYer; ninenot

Kerry way underestimated common sense of the people regardless of their religious affiliation.

God, country, and family.

Kerry has betrayed his God and Catholic Faith on many counts.

He has also betrayed his family, as he left his first wife without an annulment.

Now, you think the people would trust him NOT to betray the nation? Duh.

Interesting thread. Thank you.


67 posted on 11/06/2004 8:16:45 AM PST by m4629
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It's difficult for me to understand why so many 'good" Catholics voted for pro-abortion Kerry. It appears to me they did not heed their Pope or American bishops. Can someone explain this anomaly to us?


70 posted on 11/06/2004 8:36:44 AM PST by Paulus Invictus
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Another Democratic senator from Massachusetts, John F. Kennedy, once won stole an extremely close election because he overwhelmingly took the Catholic vote got Mayor Daley and other cronies to manipulate the count.
71 posted on 11/06/2004 9:04:17 AM PST by MegaSilver
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To: swilhelm73
Thus it can be asserted that Kerry lost Ohio, and therefore the election, because he couldn't get the support of people of his own faith in Ohio.

John Kerry is God in his own mind.

76 posted on 11/06/2004 2:00:59 PM PST by pray4liberty (Jesus has saved us! The Victory is the Lord's!)
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CINO!


79 posted on 11/06/2004 2:26:48 PM PST by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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Any bets if Kerry will be in church tomorrow?

Next Sunday?

A month of Sundays?

83 posted on 11/06/2004 2:57:58 PM PST by NewLand (God Bless America and God Bless President Bush!)
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To: swilhelm73
They voted for Bush over Kerry by 51 to 48%. In other words, they mirrored the popular vote to the exact number.

Am I supposed to be heartened by those numbers?

It means that there are millions of Catholics who either don't understand what John Kerry stands for or what it is to be Catholic.

84 posted on 11/06/2004 3:17:58 PM PST by Barnacle (Navigating the treacherous waters of a liberal culture)
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To: swilhelm73

this is useful in highlighting the contrast among people who call themselves Catholic.


87 posted on 11/06/2004 3:42:51 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: swilhelm73

Great post. This article is on target.


88 posted on 11/06/2004 6:36:38 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: swilhelm73
"Looking at CNN exit poll data for both the 2000 and 2004 elections, one sees that Bush won almost identical percentages of the vote from those who attend church more than once a week (63 percent in 2000, 64 percent in 2004) and from those who attended weekly (57 percent in 2000, 58 percent in 2004). His support rose not among the highly religious, but among the secular: those who attended church monthly (46 percent in 2000 to 50 percent in 2004), seldom (42 percent to 45 percent) and never (32 percent to 36 percent).

The above statistics were from the Manchester Union Leader's editorial dated 7 November 2004.

President Bush won by increasing his percentage of the vote in many groups. The outstanding increase IMHO (2%) was in the suburbs: 2% does not sound like much but the population of the suburbs is huge.

90 posted on 11/07/2004 6:01:15 AM PST by shrinkermd
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Congratulations to the Catholics who saw through Yaawn and made the right choice! Pro-life & Marriage Catholics are awesome!!

Pray for W and Our Troops

99 posted on 11/08/2004 9:47:14 AM PST by bray (Nam Vets Rock!!)
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