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Media Stars Refuse to Concede Election; Denigrate Evangelicals; Deny Bush a “Mandate”
Intellectual Conservative ^ | 4 November 2004 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 11/04/2004 9:16:19 AM PST by mrustow

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To: concerned about politics
Good reason for the Christians to come out even harder for the next election. Their belief in God is being refereed to as irrelevant.

White, Christian voters came out for George W. Bush. They will not come out in '08, if the party's standard bearer is Rudy Gay Rights Giuliani or Arnold Constitutional Amendment Schwarzenegger, both of whom are pro-abortion and liberal on virtually every social issue. But they will come out for a Rick Santorum.

I wouldn't assume that the party leadership will learn from '04. The GOP uses Christians, the way the Dems use blacks. It does not respect them.

61 posted on 11/04/2004 4:14:34 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Diogenesis

Thanks for the great graphics, especially the middle one!


62 posted on 11/04/2004 4:15:29 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: mrustow

Amazing, first time I heard of two items mentioned in this article: that Bush only needed 269 EC to win, because a tie (269 each) would throw the election into the Pubbie-controlled House; and that CBS news believes its core viewers are left-wing Democratic Bush haters. Most amazing.


63 posted on 11/04/2004 4:23:11 PM PST by Ciexyz (Bush still rules. The sun shines over America.)
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To: Uncle George
That 5 week hostage crisis the Dem's held upon America in 2000 will be forever "THE MARK OF CAIN" on the SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT PARTY. I pray a Zell Miller type democrat party will erase that mark.

In a democracy, people have short memories. And today, "progressive" pedagogues and journalists have ensured that children grow up with even shorter memories. So, while I wish you were right about that permanent "Mark of Cain," I fear you are not.

64 posted on 11/04/2004 4:38:29 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: OpusatFR
The resounding NO that this gaggle of sillys is hearing is not religion-based values per se, although there is a great part of the electorate who are religious.

The NO is a resounding denunciation of Socialism.

Socialism is inimical to not only those of faith, but also to those who believe in this Constitution, free enterprise and personal responsibility.

If I wanted limitations on my ability to succeed and pursue goals, I would move to France.

I dunno. I found Bush vs. Kerry a case of creeping vs. galloping socialism.

65 posted on 11/04/2004 4:40:52 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: mrustow

I am rooting for Santorum, too.


66 posted on 11/04/2004 4:49:26 PM PST by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
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To: Miss Behave

Bookmark for later.


67 posted on 11/04/2004 4:51:58 PM PST by Miss Behave (Thermos Kerry: "You want hot? I'm FOR it. You want cold? I'm FOR it. It's my Secret Plan.")
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To: Christian4Bush
There are some "believing" AND "analytical" Christians I know, who after finishing with Chrissy, Ms. Matthews would be too ashamed to say his own name...if he remembered it...

When I was in grad school, my philosophy profs were cut from the same cloth. The most prejudiced people I ever met. The were inured to both arguments and experience.

68 posted on 11/04/2004 4:57:06 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: macbee
Rather reproved Bradley, "Now, Ed Bradley, who does not have a degree in math ..."
Bradley: "But I used to teach math years ago."

And where did you get your math degree, Dan? Clearly there wasn't a math requirement for that journalism degree from Sam Houston State College. Ed taught math, Dan.

What a putz. A fourth-grader could solve this kind of story problem:

If Candidate A is ahead of Candidate B by 170,000 votes and there are 169,000 votes remaining to be counted, which Candidate will win the election?" *sheesh*

Sam Houston State? Is there where he went? A fine school, I'm sure, so I won't hold Rather against it.

How I love that dialogue. "But I used to teach math ..."

69 posted on 11/04/2004 5:00:22 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: capydick
At 4 a.m., Rather went off the air without ever giving Ohio to George W. Bush.

I kept going over to SeeBS becuase I was getting a huge kick out of their bias. Watching Blather was like watching the tape of something that happened three hours ago. It was hilarious. I hope somebody does a documentary about the MSM's behavior on this election night.

I wish he had mentioned that those knuckleheads at CBS refused all night to even show the vote tally in Ohio!

70 posted on 11/04/2004 5:02:04 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: RonF
On NBC with Mathews, Today host Katie Couric, who rose to fame playing the sweet, all-American girl, before revealing her mean streak, refused to concede the election. That was one hour after Kerry had called Bush to congratulate the latter on his victory. When Mathews noted that Bush had won a majority of the popular vote, Couric parroted the Democrat party talking point, that Bush had won "A majority, not a mandate."

And yet, Katie Couric refused to recognize his victory. And Democrats like to call other people angry and mean-spirited?!

Seems to me that what's mean-spirited is to tell a bald-faced lie about what someone else said. Katie Couric said that Bush had won a majority. That's not refusing to recognize his victory, that's confirming it. What she denied was that his victory was overwhelming, or whatever constitutes a mandate.

I can remember Presidents like Johnson, who won with about 60% or more of the popular vote (my memory is not exact), and Nixon, who won every state except Massachusetts. Those guys got mandates. President Bush got a 3% victory, and has majorities of 5% in one house and about 3% in the other. Those are majorities, but they're not what I'd call a mandate.

Surely it works well as a DNC talking point, but that doesn't mean it's wrong.

There is no such thing as an electoral victory without a mandate. When Kennedy beat Nixon in 1960 by one percent, and only thanks to the graveyard vote in Cook County, Illinois and Duval County, Texas, no one said that he "lacked a mandate" to govern. Likewise, when Jimmy Carter beat Gerald Ford in a sqeaker in '76. This "victory without a mandate" nonsense was invented by the Dems in 2000, to try and turn their defeat into victory.

71 posted on 11/04/2004 7:07:44 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: RonF
On NBC with Mathews, Today host Katie Couric, who rose to fame playing the sweet, all-American girl, before revealing her mean streak, refused to concede the election. That was one hour after Kerry had called Bush to congratulate the latter on his victory. When Mathews noted that Bush had won a majority of the popular vote, Couric parroted the Democrat party talking point, that Bush had won "A majority, not a mandate."

And yet, Katie Couric refused to recognize his victory. And Democrats like to call other people angry and mean-spirited?!

Seems to me that what's mean-spirited is to tell a bald-faced lie about what someone else said. Katie Couric said that Bush had won a majority. That's not refusing to recognize his victory, that's confirming it. What she denied was that his victory was overwhelming, or whatever constitutes a mandate.

I can remember Presidents like Johnson, who won with about 60% or more of the popular vote (my memory is not exact), and Nixon, who won every state except Massachusetts. Those guys got mandates. President Bush got a 3% victory, and has majorities of 5% in one house and about 3% in the other. Those are majorities, but they're not what I'd call a mandate.

Surely it works well as a DNC talking point, but that doesn't mean it's wrong.

There is no such thing as an electoral victory without a mandate. When Kennedy beat Nixon in 1960 by one percent, and only thanks to the graveyard vote in Cook County, Illinois and Duval County, Texas, no one said that he "lacked a mandate" to govern. Likewise, when Jimmy Carter beat Gerald Ford in a sqeaker in '76. This "victory without a mandate" nonsense was invented by the Dems in 2000, to try and turn their defeat into victory.

72 posted on 11/04/2004 7:10:01 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: chimera; RonF
I remember back in '84 when Reagan was hitting 60% of the PV and 98% of the EV and the 'Rats were still claiming that "he has no mandate", or that "it's a personal victory". It's clear that for 'Rats, only when their candidate wins, no matter by how narrow a margin, is there ever a "mandate".

Well, to hell with this "mandate" crap. George Bush won the election, clearly and decisively. Republicans have significant majorities in both the House and Senate. They have a job to do. It is clear that the majority of voters in the country want them to get on with it. The 'Rats can either get on board and help in a constructive way, move off to the side and sulk, or stand in the road and to be run over and left as a grease spot. It's their choice.

I had no idea it was that old. And here I was, saying that they cooked it up in 2000. I stand corrected.

73 posted on 11/04/2004 7:18:33 PM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: chimera

Nixon's and Reagan's landslide victories were lonely personal triumphs. The Democrats still kept an iron grip on Congress. In contrast, Bush's win is a real mandate since Republicans won in Congress on his coattails. He actually increased his party's strength in Congress! I'll take that accomplishment over Nixon's and Reagan's any day for its not merely a personal affirmation, its a victory of ideology and party.


74 posted on 11/04/2004 7:19:50 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Don't forget that in '80 (I mentioned '84, but should also have kept the '80 contest in context) Reagan displayed a broad coattail effect that resulted in the first (in recent times) Republican takeover of the Senate, and election of enough new Republicans in the House to forge a "working majority" with Democrats who were somewhat right-leaning. True, it only lasted the first two years of Reagan's tenure, but the claims then were as they are now, "no mandate".

But the point is, it really doesn't matter. As GWB said in his speech, he has some "capital" to work with. Unlike capital that us working stiffs accrue slowly over time, political capital is short-lived and can't be passed on to an inheritor. It has to be spent, preferably wisely, on important, and, winnable, issues. So let's take a little time to rest after an exhausting election season, celebrate appropriately, and then get on with it. Bush and the Republicans, unlike 'Rats, know that now they have an obligation to perform and at least make an honest effort to deliver on the things they campaigned and were elected on.

75 posted on 11/05/2004 5:12:24 AM PST by chimera
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To: EdReform

Bumpbackatcha!


76 posted on 11/05/2004 8:56:51 AM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: mrustow

Another home run from Nickey Styx


77 posted on 11/05/2004 8:59:14 AM PST by dennisw (Gd - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: HIDEK6
I kept going over to SeeBS becuase I was getting a huge kick out of their bias.

It probably has been 5 years since I watched ABC, NBC or CBS, but, like you, I was interested to see how they were handling this ass-kicking.

The thing that astounded me was how, though the same faces were there (Brokaw, Rather, Jennings), they all looked and sounded like dodering old dinosaurs.

I was astounded with how ancient and feeble they all looked and sounded.

Well, they are ancient! Rather is 72, Brokaw is 64 or 65, and Jennings, I believe, is 66.

78 posted on 11/05/2004 9:02:44 AM PST by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: mrustow
From two months ago:

Put a fork in Monsieur Kerry. He's Done.

79 posted on 11/05/2004 9:03:48 AM PST by Mike Bates (Just in time for your Halloween gift giving needs: THE book.)
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To: concerned about politics

Yep,
The next election will be even more important than this one.

It will totally break what is left of MSM and Hollywood.


80 posted on 11/05/2004 9:05:30 AM PST by najida (Liberals: Their mama's didn't raise them right!)
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