Posted on 10/31/2004 5:53:56 AM PST by Diago
Subj: Kerry Scolds Vatican Over Gay Marriage
Date: 10/31/2004 8:37:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: "Fr. Peter West"
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Kerry Scolds Vatican Over Gay Marriage
Associated Press
BOSTON - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry scolded the Vatican Friday for saying Catholic politicians like himself have a "moral duty" to oppose laws granting legal rights to gay couples.
"I believe in the church and I care about it enormously," said the Massachusetts senator. "But I think that it's important to not have the church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in America."
The Vatican had urged Catholics and non-Catholics Thursday to unite in campaigning against gay marriages and gay adoptions. The 12-page document, issued by the church, presents a battle plan for politicians confronted with legislation legalizing same-sex unions and rails against gay adoption.
The document calls on Catholic politicians to vote against laws granting legal recognition to homosexual unions and to work to repeal those already on the books.
"To vote in favor of a law so harmful to the common good is gravely immoral," it said, although it didn't specify penalties for Catholics who do.
Kerry opposes gay marriage, saying it is a right reserved in America for men and women, but he has said gay couples should have the same legal rights as husbands and wives.
When it returns from its August recess, the Senate will begin hearings to determine whether new laws are necessary to strengthen the federal definition of marriage as a man and a woman, a Republican senator said Friday.
In 1996, President Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act, which denied federal recognition of same-sex marriages and allowed states to ignore same-sex unions licensed elsewhere.
President Bush said at a White House news conference Wednesday that he believes "a marriage is between a man and a woman, and I think we ought to codify that one way or the other."
Bush spokesman Scott McClellan said the next day that the White House was studying possible responses if pending lawsuits in Massachusetts and New Jersey result in legalization of gay marriage.
Some Republicans in Congress also are pushing for a constitutional amendment that would ban gay marriages.
Sounds like a Clancy novel..."The cardinal of the White House!"
Kerry's comments are loaded with meaning for the future of America. His ill-conceived remarks are an unspoken message to believers that Kerry will strengthen secularists power over believers.
Let's not forget Kerry praised foul-mouthed Whoppi Goldberg and went to Hollywood for votes and donations. It's clear Kerry, Hollyweirdos and Dumbocrats are in league against believers, and stand for everything Christians abhor: They worship abortion, the homosexual agenda, and the stripping away of every Christian symbol in America.
Kerry is pandering to Hollyeird secularists. In return, Kerry assures religious-hating Hollywood that a Kerry presidency will strengthen Hollywood's chokehold on American culture.
Candidates igonore Christians concerns at their peril. Kerry's comments and his positions on social issues must reach every Christian pastor, church, and group in America. These are the things Christian voters should talk about:
(1) Kerry's comments have effectively disqualified him from holding the highest office in Christian America.
(2) Transparently anti-religious candidates do not deserve Christian votes.
(3) Candidates carrying Bibles and going to church (the Clintons) but who vote against everything Christians believe in will not fool Christians.
(4) Protecting the unborn, the sacredness of marriage, and restoring Christian symbols in American culture are very important matters believers want addressed.
Kerry kneels in obeisance to the small cadre of Hollywarped Christian haters who despise everything Christians stand for.
The future of America depends on putting into office the candidate who supports a Christian-based culture.
Kerrry is a PHONY Catholic, just as he is a PHONY patriot.
"Wake Up America" is right.
And then you know what would happen...
Did Kerry preface his remarks to the Vatican with "Do you know who I am?"
Isn't kerry crossing the line in the wrong direction? I'm thinking of what President Reagan said: "I can endorse you, but you can't endorse me," to Christian Conservatives in Dallas in 1980. Kerry can claim to be a Catholic or not, but he can't ask the Church to be silent in its convictions. The best he can do in this situation is remain silent.
Just as any person or group: blacks, Latinos, women, among many others, any church has the right to speak out. Why would being religious preclude the right to free speech? Do you see Kerry saying that blacks cannot speak out on campaign issues? Or women? Latinos? Union members?
The hypocrisy here is astounding! But that is what I have come to expect from Democrats.
Like everything else about his character, Kerry's religion is a cloak he wears only when it meets his purpose
John Edwards believes Kerry is Christ. Maybe Kerry believes it too.
Who's interesting in all this is none other than Raymond Flynn, former ambassador to the Vatican, former Mayor of Boston. A Massachussets Democrat and very pro-life, he was able to pull off the juggling act.
] Appearing on Fox News Channel's "Special Report with Brit Hume" today, Raymond A. Flynn, President Your Catholic Voice, said it was disrespectful for Democratic pro-abortion politicians to criticize Catholic Church leaders who have the courage to speak out on important moral issues in the political arena. - http://www.yourcatholicvoice.org/index.php?id=press&press=48
But I do endorse Democrat politicians instructing inside of Black Churches!
Before I read the other posts, I'm surprised that sKerry didn't say "I respect the Pope's opinion, but . . . "
That's his usual statement when he disagrees with someone.
If he thought he could personally benefit from it, he would...
Then how can he oppose any law derived from the 10 commandments?
Kerry believes not only in the false ACLU message of separation of church and state
Kerry takes it one step further....a belief in the separation of church and GOD
Dr. Charles Stanley has been preaching a series entitled "America at the Crossroads", which addresses the implications of politicians trying to govern as if God were not a part of the equation. I've seen a few TV preachers on today, and they are all talking about how important it is to vote for the right person to govern our country for the next few years. A few have come out and have actually mentioned President Bush by name.
I have a few Catholic relatives who are actually supporting Kerry. I cannot convince them to vote otherwise. But if any of you have "religious" people who are willing to hear what most would believe to be God's perspective, Dr. Stanley's sermons can be seen here:
http://www.intouch.org/myintouch/broadcasts/archive_tv_36079899.html
Go shoot a goose...dufus!.....
Right on the money. If a pedophile is born such, then his lifestyle should be respected and support groups should be established to bolster the pedophile's self esteem and interest groups formed to politicize their "way of life."And pedophilia should be de-criminalized.
And so it is with homosexuals. A 16 year old girl experiences feelings for another teen-age girl (SSA: Same Sex Attraction). As soon as one of her [invariably] gay teachers finds out, the child is bombarded with pro-gay literature, gay-gene arguments, references to websites which will reinforce her probably temorary tendencies.
God forbid that they should demonstrate to the kids with SSA that simply having those feelings doesn't mean that you're a fixed homosexual. But they generalize from this singular experience and label the kid gay. So the kid thinks that she's/he's gay. And from there it picks up momentum.
One authority in the field says that over 2/3 of girls who have SSA experiences between the ages of 16-23 drop out and become hetero. Another says that lesbianism today, among teenagers, has become as fashionable as body piercing and tatooing.
Just got back from Mass, where they were handing out Catholic voting guides.
I guess its OK when this equinesque socialist gigolo douchebag holds a campaign rally in a black church and is compared to Moses, but the Vatican and American Bishops should shut up.
Despicable monster.
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