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Tulsa World gives Carson a 7pt lead in OK
Tulsa World ^ | 10-25-04 | unknown

Posted on 10/25/2004 10:55:13 AM PDT by Gdzine

Latest Poll Has Carson Leading Coburn In Senate Race

Coburn Camp Calls Survey 'Ridiculous'

POSTED: 11:53 am CDT October 24, 2004 UPDATED: 1:22 pm CDT October 24, 2004 TULSA, Okla. -- Democratic Rep. Brad Carson is apparently ahead of Republican former Rep. Tom Coburn in the race for the U.S. Senate, according to recent poll, but there is still room for change before the Nov. 2 general election, a poll consultant said.

The Oklahoma Poll of 753 registered voters statewide found 47 percent favored Carson while Coburn was the choice of 40 percent and 13 percent were undecided.

The poll was taken Oct. 14-19 by Tulsa-based Consumer Logic and sponsored by the Tulsa World and Tulsa television station KOTV and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

Coburn's campaign disputed the results.

"This is not remotely accurate," Coburn spokesman John Hart said. "The fact is that the only polls that have Carson in the lead are from the Tulsa World and the national Democrats. Everyone knows the Tulsa World wants to elect Brad Carson, but this is ridiculous."

The Carson campaign said the poll results showed that Oklahomans are "resoundingly rejecting the politics of attacking candidates' values."

"As they begin to make up their minds, voters are focusing on the candidate who they trust to fight for Oklahoma," Carson spokesman Brad Luna said.

"This poll reflects that the voters are increasingly trusting Congressman Carson when it comes to fighting for our state, bringing good-paying jobs to Oklahoma and always putting the interest of Oklahomans first."

The large number of undecided voters and the breakdown of undecided conservatives and moderates in the Oklahoma Poll leaves room for a lot of movement in the race, said Al Soltow, a poll consultant and executive director of research at the University of Tulsa.

"Even though we are only 10 days out from the Nov. 2 election, 13 percent is a significant number of undecided voters."

A breakdown of the undecided bloc in the survey, Soltow said, showed that 3 percent are liberals, 14 percent are moderates and 12 percent are conservatives.

The poll showed that Carson and Coburn are tied in Oklahoma City, each with 43 percent support from those surveyed.

In Tulsa, 48 percent said they would vote for Carson while 39 percent favored Coburn, the poll found.

In the areas outside Oklahoma City and Tulsa, 51 percent supported Carson and 38 percent said they would vote for Coburn, the polling firm said.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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Unfortunately for the Tulsa World...they havent looked at any real polls.....such as Survey USA or Rasmussen all which show Coburn up over the margin of error. The Tulsa World really HATES Coburn.
1 posted on 10/25/2004 10:55:13 AM PDT by Gdzine
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To: Gdzine
The Oklahoma Poll of 753 registered voters

Registered voters. Someone ought to bring back the Tulsa Tribune and put the liberal nitwits at the World out of business.

2 posted on 10/25/2004 10:57:49 AM PDT by dirtboy (Kerry could have left 'Nam within a week if Purple Hearts were awarded for shots to the foot.)
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To: Gdzine
The Oklahoma Poll of 753 registered voters

stopped reading right there.

3 posted on 10/25/2004 10:58:27 AM PDT by IrishGOP (I don't like John Kerry, because John Kerry is going to get me killed.)
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To: Gdzine

How the hell is this happening?


4 posted on 10/25/2004 10:59:57 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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To: Gdzine
"This is not remotely accurate," Coburn spokesman John Hart said. "The fact is that the only polls that have Carson in the lead are from the Tulsa World and the national Democrats. Everyone knows the Tulsa World wants to elect Brad Carson, but this is ridiculous."

I guess we'll find out a week from tomorrow just how ridiculous they are.

5 posted on 10/25/2004 11:00:22 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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How the hell is this happening?

The World is cooking the polls...

6 posted on 10/25/2004 11:01:08 AM PDT by dirtboy (Kerry could have left 'Nam within a week if Purple Hearts were awarded for shots to the foot.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I guess we will Non Sequitur....but at least im happy we are going to get to do a little compare and contrast from this poll and reality.


7 posted on 10/25/2004 11:01:57 AM PDT by Gdzine
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To: KC_Conspirator

No detail of methodology;


8 posted on 10/25/2004 11:02:27 AM PDT by WoodstockCat (DNC and John Kerry: Forgers R' Us)
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To: KC_Conspirator

It ain't....


9 posted on 10/25/2004 11:02:39 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: dirtboy
I'm 21 but I remember reading the Tribune in the afternoons. How can a paper like the World that operates with views that are mostly opposite to the majority of Tulsan continue to do this.

we need to take action against them through a boycott or other economic means.
10 posted on 10/25/2004 11:03:45 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: ken5050

OK is no libby land.......


11 posted on 10/25/2004 11:04:10 AM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: Gdzine

I swear.... in this race.... I'd like to write "none of the above". But we have to vote for Coburn to keep the Senate. If this idiot would just run a serious campaign of serious commercials about just this topic, he'd win hands down. But no... Carson yanks his chain by throwing mud, and Coburn keeps going off the deep end.


12 posted on 10/25/2004 11:04:59 AM PDT by kjam22 (What you win them by, is what you win them to)
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To: Gdzine
Coburn is up and will win.
13 posted on 10/25/2004 11:07:03 AM PDT by Clump
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To: JBlain
The Tribune and the World formed a joint operating agreement, and then the Tribune folded in 1992. That happens with most JOAs - one paper typically goes away.

I knew the editor of the Tribune in high school - even took his daughter to the prom, so maybe I'm biased...

14 posted on 10/25/2004 11:08:34 AM PDT by dirtboy (Kerry could have left 'Nam within a week if Purple Hearts were awarded for shots to the foot.)
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To: Gdzine

Unlike any election we have seen,information is being manipulated, forged and published.

I'm just hoping that the manipulators, forgers, and publishers who are doing this (i.e. The Tulsa World, NYT, WP, Newsweek, CBS, ABC, PBS...) will wake up next Wednesday morning, and endure severe anguish and humiliation.

God help us if they are successful.


15 posted on 10/25/2004 11:09:34 AM PDT by Rhetorical pi2
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To: Gdzine

Unlike any election we have seen,information is being manipulated, forged and published.

I'm just hoping that the manipulators, forgers, and publishers who are doing this (i.e. The Tulsa World, NYT, WP, Newsweek, CBS, ABC, PBS...) will wake up next Wednesday morning, and endure severe anguish and humiliation.

God help us if they are successful.


16 posted on 10/25/2004 11:10:16 AM PDT by Rhetorical pi2
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To: kjam22

I think Coburn is running a pretty good campaign overall, most of his commercial exposes Carson's liberal voting record, and he hasnt gotten personal, Carson has now gotten way too personal with something that is not even true. ....but i have a hunch that someone "special" is coming to endorse Coburn...I could be wrong but I have a hunch.


17 posted on 10/25/2004 11:10:37 AM PDT by Gdzine
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To: Gdzine

No real Oklahomans will vote for that effeminate snob!


18 posted on 10/25/2004 11:11:15 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Anybody but Kerry!!)
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guess we will Non Sequitur....but at least im happy we are going to get to do a little compare and contrast from this poll and reality.

The only reality is a week from Tuesday. My God, people have been going on and on with every rise and fall of the polls for the last few weeks. Doesn't anyone remember what the polls showed in 2000? Almost without exception Bush went into election day as much as 8 points up in the polls. And look how it wound up.

19 posted on 10/25/2004 11:13:03 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

Liars poll, and pollsters lie.

This is just the latest example.


20 posted on 10/25/2004 11:14:33 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Socialism Kills...)
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