Posted on 10/16/2004 7:26:59 PM PDT by dannyboy72
Poll: Troops, families question Iraq strategy
Most surveyed say Bush sent too few troops; relied too much on Guard
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Members of the military and their families say the Bush administration underestimated the number of troops needed in Iraq and put too much pressure on inadequately trained National Guard and reserve forces, according to a poll released Saturday.
The National Annenberg Election Survey questioned active duty troops in the regular military and the National Guard and Reserves, as well as family members of active duty members.
Family members were more critical of the administration's Iraq policy than those on active duty.
The poll found that 62 percent in the military sample -- 58 percent of troops and 66 percent of family members -- said the administration underestimated the number of troops that would be needed to establish peace in Iraq. (Part 1 of the Annenberg survey results)
And 59 percent -- 56 percent of troops and 64 percent of family members -- said too much of a burden has been put on the National Guard and the reserves when regular forces should have been expanded instead.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
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The Generals said they wanted /needed more troops. They were replaced.
Turkey rightly was worried about the Kurds in the North of Iraq. The Kurds want to keep their freedom.
And 59 percent -- 56 percent of troops and 64 percent of family members -- said too much of a burden has been put on the National Guard and the reserves when regular forces should have been expanded instead.
I agree with all of this, as does my son in Iraq. But all seven of the adults in my family (no, we do not practice abortion here) are voting for Bush. My son called me today to tell me he mailed in his Bushballot.
Where did you hear that? Don't believe Kerry's statement about Shenseckie(SP). He retired on his calendar, not the Administrations.
Major League Adam Clymer Alert
I believe I heard on lovable NPR, who interviewed him about it, that he was some kind of political or media consultant for Annenberg.
Big Time
Agree that this survey is accurate, but without prefacing these results with the top line of the survey attempts to show that troops do not support Bush. It's legitimate to look back on the plan of attack knowing what you encountered and what you see today. Hind sight is important to improving our military planning, but they suggest that this means the troops think Bush screwed up - which is patently false and THEY KNOW IT.
Name the generals who were replaced.
You mean there are people in the military who are Demorats? LOL! Too funny. The MSM is really outdoing itself for their man this election year.
The good thing is that Americans have got the press's number on this crap. Today we were doing a garage sale, a college-age kid heard my son was in Iraq and started in with the basic anti-war Michael Moore spiel. I politely but relentlessly blasted him with one example after another (thousands to choose from!) of how the press is constantly manipulating his impressions of Bush, the war and John Kerry. It was fun to see his "I never thought of that" reactions. Half-hour later, he looked absolutely dizzy as I helped him load my old computer in his trunk.
Poll: Troops, families question Iraq strategy
This story about the National Annenberg Election Survey poll mentions NOTHING about the poll results showing that Bush was trusted by the military 69% compared to Kerrys 24% or that 77% of the troops views Bush favorably compared to only 26% for Kerry.
The front page of the CNN Politics section at http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/ has a link to the same story under "Military & Families":
"Most members of the military and their families surveyed say Bush sent too few troops, relied too much on Guard"Only by clicking the link part of the way down the article Poll: Troops, families question Iraq strategy will you find a link entitled "Part 1 of the Annenberg survey results)". Clicking the link to "Part 1..." takes you to part 1 which has this headline:
Poll: Military trusts Bush over Kerry
To summarize:
1. The CNN home page and CNN Politics front page, only take you to part 2 of the article which gives the appearance that the results of the military poll is negative for George Bush.
2. Part 2 of the article isn't even labeled as part 2. Nor is "Part 1" labeled as such on the story itself.
3. The link to "part 1" is buried in the article, and doesn't even use the headline of part 1 "Poll: Military trusts Bush over Kerry"
4. "Part1" "Poll: Military trusts Bush over Kerry" has no link to part 2, however it is not linked from the home page or the Politics page. Part 2 which is favorable for Bush is just kind of hanging out there, unless you see the link in the story and follow it out of curiosity (it has no appealing headline).Folks, this is Media Bias at its best.
And I agree with you, your son, and the poll results as well. I have been reading Tommy Franks book, and I just don't believe that "Phase IV" was planned well at all. But thats just 20-20 hindsite, and John Kerry is NOT an option.
Thanks for adding the ALLPOLITICS linking of the story. I was so outraged when I was reading this because I already knew the results of the poll, that I had to make my post immediately to vent. It's unbelievable that they would write two parts for a survey and not link the real results to anything accept a non-distinct link within the "part 2" article.
When the election turns out to be a landslide, the media will know that they are no longer relevant. When they're down, we need to know them the "F" out.
Ping - see post #31 for how the CNN website deceives on the military poll - they have a part 1 with the good news buried, no links to the front pages.
It's a viscous cycle
--- liberal media plays up negative propaganda that our troops are in danger and fighting a 'wrong war'
--- sooner or later it seems to have an effect
--- liberal media reports on the negative effect, fans the flames, and FURTHER plays up the negative propaganda...
--- biggest liberal jack@ss of them all tries to run for president on that same tactic
I hadn't realized that you had pointed that out already - I need to read closer, you already nailed it, good work! Maybe the links I hot linked to will show others how deceptive this is. I can understand the anger at how CNN does this, there is no way to call this other than what it is - intentional deception of the public. A poll of military families clearly shows the military favors Bush by a HUGE margin - hidden, distorted, to the point that CNN paints it as a Bush negative. Unbelievable.
And 75% are STILL voting for Bush, so whaddaya think of that, CNN??
Blah, Blah, Blah to C.N.N.........
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