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LIBERALS DON'T WANT LIBERAL LABELS
NROTC ^ | October 14, 2004 | Tim Graham

Posted on 10/15/2004 3:08:06 PM PDT by swilhelm73

MRC's Brent Baker reports that the media elite typically disliked the L word last night. Newsweek Managing Editor Jon Meacham contended on MSNBC before the debate that the liberal tag "seems a little tinny these days. I think it's a more serious time." He argued that if Bush "simply throws red meat out that's trouble." After the debate, Boston Globe reporter Nina Easton complained on CNN that Republican have "ridden that tired horse of calling Kerry a liberal from Massachusetts and out of the mainstream, which doesn't, I don't think, play that well to swing voters."

While it's true that merely using the word "liberal" might seem a bit old, it might play well with swing voters if Bush can explain what the L word means: higher taxes, more government bureaucracy, lowered defense spending, seeing the leading foreign policy crisis as the lack of arms control and global warming agreements....

PS: Karl Rove must consider it a great strategic success that Kerry hasn't really been suggesting too hard that Bush is too conservative, something the media love saying about Republicans.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: liberals
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1 posted on 10/15/2004 3:08:06 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73

Alan Colmes and Helen Thomas seem proud of it. Easy to say when neither is running for public office.


2 posted on 10/15/2004 3:10:07 PM PDT by edpc
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To: swilhelm73

They're not liberals. They're Socialists. We should start calling them what they are.


3 posted on 10/15/2004 3:13:44 PM PDT by freebilly (Freebilly O'Reilly-- No Spin But Good Vibrations....)
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To: swilhelm73; maryz
Everyone hates Liberals, the rats in Southie hate liberals. Passed off to Maryz who lives in the belly of the beast.
4 posted on 10/15/2004 3:14:22 PM PDT by Little Bill (John F'n Kerry is a self promoting scumbag!)
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To: swilhelm73

Well, if the name fits!

Kerry looked like a fool in the debates when he kept saying "It's not about labels" and "My oponent is trying to scre you with labels."

They were canned and smarmy. A failed effort to muddy the waters surrounding his flaming liberalism.


5 posted on 10/15/2004 3:14:46 PM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (The Measure of a Man is the Willingness to Accept Responsibility for Consequences of his Acts.)
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To: edpc
Well, the mention of either "Liberal" or "Flipflop" to John Kerry is generally good for a "Frau Bluker" moment.
6 posted on 10/15/2004 3:15:49 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (If it talks like a liberal, votes like a liberal and spends like a liberal, it's a liberal.)
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To: swilhelm73

You've got to be a fool to register to vote anywhere but your town hall.


7 posted on 10/15/2004 3:18:03 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Anybody but Kerry!!)
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To: swilhelm73

Ah a liberal by any other name is still a liberal. Call them a socialist and they get upset even thought that is what they represent. Tell then they are trying to take from the rich and give to the poor and that it is stealing and they say no not when the government does it. What logic, because the government does it its ok.


8 posted on 10/15/2004 3:19:24 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

Just exactly what do they want to be called?

Dumba$$es?

Communists?

Which word do "they" find least offensive


9 posted on 10/15/2004 3:19:46 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: swilhelm73

Despite what the MSM says most Americans despise liberals and will not vote for them. Say what you want about Bill Clinton, but he was smart and savvy enough to avoid the liberal tag, and he convinced enough voters that he was a moderate governor from the south. John Kerry is too refined and snobby to pull off the same stunt Clinton did. It doesn't help that he's from Massachusetts and has a voting record even more leftist than America's most prominent liberal Teddy Kennedy.


10 posted on 10/15/2004 3:20:14 PM PDT by midftfan
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To: swilhelm73

Liberals seem to think that the term itself is a perjorative. That simply isn't true. It is just that most Americans dislike the two things that are most easily associated with liberal policies: higher taxes and more government involvement.


11 posted on 10/15/2004 3:25:55 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: austinaero

"...Which word do "they" find least offensive...."

I think the word is "progressive". No matter what the label...it's all the same. They're basically communist/socialists. The name just changes every couple of years I guess to confuse the GOP. Somebody should tell them it isn't working.


12 posted on 10/15/2004 3:32:19 PM PDT by mrtysmm
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To: austinaero

They call themselves "progressives." That will be till they've become hated under that name too, then they'll change it again.


13 posted on 10/15/2004 3:33:28 PM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: midftfan

"... most Americans despise liberals and will not vote for them..."

That's the reason Dean was dumped. He allowed that label to be used as a description of him. The media caught on and realized he could not be elected as a "liberal". Arriva J F Kerry....a progressive!


14 posted on 10/15/2004 3:35:24 PM PDT by mrtysmm
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To: swilhelm73

Define the ideologies of the neoMarxist & pro-socialist, then compare them with the Democrat party platform and the demagogueral partylines of the political "liberal."

"Liberal" equals Leftist.







15 posted on 10/15/2004 3:36:47 PM PDT by purpleland
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To: swilhelm73

I actually had a co-worker admit that he is really a socialist.


16 posted on 10/15/2004 3:38:18 PM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: swilhelm73; Howlin; Timesink; Mr. Silverback; Utah Girl; hosepipe; backhoe; FITZ; Happy2BMe; ...

Start calling them what they are communist/fascists that'll realy makem happy !


17 posted on 10/15/2004 3:48:11 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Want to know why I don't vote Democrat?" http://www.museumofleftwinglunacy.com)
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To: freebilly; swilhelm73
They're not liberals. They're Socialists.

Or worse. Acutally according to the original definitions of the word "liberal", most American conservatives would be considered liberal.

18 posted on 10/15/2004 5:51:33 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

And in Europe and beyond the term liberal is still often used to describe what would be considered rightwing in the US.

Hence, for example, "liberal reformers" in Russia seeking to dismantle socialism.


19 posted on 10/15/2004 5:53:56 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (Democrats and free speech are like oil and water)
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To: freebilly
[ They're not liberals. They're Socialists. We should start calling them what they are. ]

Exactly... pubbies seem AFRAID to use the right word... useing the WORD... could solve a multitude of problems.. liberals is too vague and wrong. Liberals are about a liberal as a Nazi which was socialism also.. not fascism.. Asking the question.. Are you a SOCALIST ?... would cut through the BS and cause most of them to hem and haw and be totally unprepared for the "you know communism "IS" socialism"... also.. How far from Stalin are you in socialistic circles..?

20 posted on 10/15/2004 6:46:09 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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