Posted on 10/14/2004 9:39:03 AM PDT by missyme
It is an impossibly hot summer evening in St Louis, a city in the American Midwest best known for barbecues and blues music, and Im driving around the streets of the towns Central West End wondering if this will be known one day as the place where the revolution began.
In less than an hour I am to meet its leader, a young man whose face I have never seen though weve been talking for months. I know I shouldnt be this eager to greet him in person, to finally see what he looks like, but then again its not every day you meet a young healthy man who is 100% uninterested in sex.
In a world where lust can be bought in a pill and skin is the marketing tool du jour, being David Jay cannot be easy. At the age of 22 he has never had sex. He has never experienced sexual attraction towards another person and does not believe it will ever happen.
There are many others who have similar stories to tell. They talk about growing up not being able to understand why everyone else seemed so interested in dating, kissing and touching; in experiencing the ritual of mating.
Until recently these people felt isolated, never suspecting others felt the same. But now, thanks in great part to an online forum founded by Jay, they are finding each other and identifying themselves with a common label. They call themselves asexual, and are coming out to parents and loved ones, declaring their asexuality to be as valid an orientation as being straight or gay.
They are printing T-shirts and pamphlets, and discussing the concept of A-pride and what it means to be A-sexy. They are, essentially, announcing to the world that they are not broken or defective, or sexually dysfunctional. Instead they have a bona fide sexual identity that must no longer be ignored.
A few months ago it might have been easy to dismiss these individuals as outsiders whose coming together in the era of the search engine has given them an inflated sense of community. However, little-publicised studies of rodents and sheep suggest that asexual behaviour in mammals is not so uncommon.
And this August, a researcher in human sexuality published the first tentative figures for the number of asexual people in the population, which suggested that there might be almost as many asexual people as there are gay individuals.
The figure raises the intriguing spectre of a repressed, underground minority on the verge of bubbling up into the mainstream. Are we about to witness the birth of the asexual revolution?
Coming out
Discovering our sexuality, we are told, is a perfectly normal process that must be celebrated. We might wish to tame it perhaps, but never negate it. Even concepts such as celibacy or abstinence work on the implicit assumption that we are deliberately rejecting sexuality. Doctors tell us that if we lose interest in sex we must seek help with the problem.
Unsurprisingly, one of the hardest things about being asexual is convincing other people that there is nothing wrong with you. Tell someone on the street that you are asexual and theyll stare at you in disbelief, says Jay. The immediate supposition is that youre just a late bloomer, he adds.
A powerful example of how people react to the idea appears in an article titled Eight myths about religious life, which appeared in Vision 2002, an annual magazine from the National Religious Vocation Conference in the US. It states: Question: what do you call a person who is asexual? Answer: Not a person. Asexual people do not exist. Sexuality is a gift from God and thus a fundamental part of our human identity.
But now, people outside the asexual community are starting to question these assumptions. Elizabeth Abbott, Dean of Women at Trinity College, University of Toronto, Canada, is one of the few academics who are aware of the issue and believes it is a real phenomenon. Soon after her book A History of Celibacy was released in 1999, letters started pouring in from people who told her that, like celibates, they didnt have sex. Only in their case, it was not a question of choice - they simply didnt want to.
Thats when she realised that asexual people actually existed. The asexual can be somebodys husband or wife, says Abbott. But societal pressures keep most asexuals in the closet, she adds. They have to hide themselves because we are in a highly sexed society. Imagine someone who doesnt even want it and who isnt having a problem if theyre not getting it. Theres not really anyone for them to talk to.
Something different
According to Jay, one of the biggest battles is convincing other people that being this way is what feels right. Many asexuals discovered their orientation in their early teens and refer to their asexuality as something that has always been with them. One example is 17-year-old Aspen (name changed), a mild-mannered girl with big blue eyes who lives in Worcester, Massachusetts.
One summer afternoon over lunch she told me that she had looked up the word asexual in the dictionary at age 15, hoping to find a definition for how she saw herself. None of the explanations fitted, so she wrote in her journal: What am I? Like I said before Im not anything; not anything theres a word for, at least If there were a word for what Im starting to think I am it wouldnt - unlike the word homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual, transsexual - have the word sex in it. Im something different.
When I asked Kate Goldfield, a 20-year-old college student from Maine, to describe her feelings, she offered an analogy. Its almost as foreign to me as someone saying You know, when youre 18 were going to take you on a space shuttle and were going to go to Mars. Angela (name changed), a lively 40-year-old writer from Massachusetts, explains it this way: I have never had interest in sex all my life, at all. Its like algebra. I understand the concept, but have no interest. I dont have the strong feeling about it that the rest of the world has, she says.
Loving variety I finally meet Jay face-to-face at the lobby of my hotel. He flashes a confident smile and firmly shakes my hand as if he had known a part of me was secretly expecting a weirdo and he was glad to set me straight. Jay is no Calvin Klein model, but not unattractive either; in fact, hes kind of got the air of a young JFK Junior, tall and slender, with warm, dark eyes, and the mouth of a Greek god I can imagine young girls dying to kiss.
More intimate
He is living proof that it is absolutely wrong to assume asexuals shun sex simply because they cant get any. I ask him if anyone has ever tried to convert him into the realm of the sexual. Yes, thats definitely happened, he replies. Thats actually the time that I made out with [snogged] someone. It didnt do anything for him but he ended up having a relationship with the girl - a sexless one, of course. We had a physical relationship, more intimate in a lot of ways. We hugged each other a lot.
That Jay likes girls is one of several intriguing facts I learn about asexual people as they discuss some of the most intimate details of their lives with me. There are asexuals, for example, who have never felt the need to get close to other people, not even in a non-sexual way, and describe themselves as loners. But others, like Jay, want to connect with males or females - some people would define it as an orientation - only it seems to be purely emotional.
Their desire is to find a mate with whom they can share interests and spend time with but not have any form of sexual relationship with. (Jay once worried he could never feel love, but now knows he can. Indeed, unencumbered by sexual feelings, he believes his is a more powerful, unconditional form of love.) In addition, some asexuals are capable of experiencing bodily arousal. They get erections and some masturbate, although even while experiencing the physical cues of arousal there never is an impulse to do anything sexual with another person. A number of asexuals told me that watching porn or looking at erotic pictures were awkward experiences that they couldnt relate to.
I get the feelings
but my body never made the mental connection to what I would do about it, explains Pete (name changed), a high-school student who is in a non-sexual relationship with a girl. I get the arousal but when it happens it gets annoying because to me there is really no purpose to it, there is nothing I can do about it, he says.
Good for you for standing up for yourself among all the juvenile responses to an interesting article.
Don't know about Jesus, raccoonradio, but I've met some others.
The responses on this thread are wild! I'm on your side, buddy. Although I'm not batting for your team, I don't see why you can't play the game your own way. You aren't breaking up families, causing emotional trauma, or spreading disease.
As far as I know, when Christ said for us to love one another, this wasn't a code phrase for "booty call".
Nothing new here, my wife has been asexual for about 30 years now.
Of course I bet to say most especially men had those experiences, but the point is those relationships were meaningless, One Night Stands are a temporary pleasure that could bring an un-wanted pregnancy or a lifetime disease so is the trade off worth it? When your young dumb and full of ---- you don't think of it
I cannot tell you how many girlfirends I have had when we were all single especially through out the 80's that spent hours crying on the phone because they thought after having sex with a guy they did not know that well was going to bring them a relationship, but what they got was a phone that did not ring again....I'm sure today's singles do things differently....
Unless we are automatons with no choice as to what we are or should be interested in, we should no more be interested in sex than we should be interested in playing the piano, reading biographies, riding a horse or posting on this website.
> You're asking people you dismissively refer to as "breeders" not to be judgmental?
Well, what would YOU call 'em? Homosexuals by definition don't breed, nor do asexuals. Or, for that matter, those suffering from any number of forms of chick-repellant.
So, "breeding" is something that separates the one big group from the several smaller groups. "Breeder" is thus a completely accurate term.
"Breeder"!!!?!?!??!!??!
What a snide, snarky little comment....
Nothing wrong with it at all. It would be an interesting exercise to psychoanalyze all the people on this thread who can't seem to accept the notion. Can't fathom why it bothers anyone -- this is a group which obviously poses no threat to anyone, yet a lot of people seem so threatened by its existence that they feel compelled to issue knee-jerk denials of its very existence. I know a few people like this, and they're wonderful friendly productive people -- no need to fix what ain't broke.
Homosexuals use the term "breeder" as a derogatory label for heterosexuals. It objectifies people into a biological function. Like calling a man a "pr*ck" or a woman a "c**t".
> When your young dumb and full of ---- you don't think of it
"----"?
Ummm...
"Chocolate?" "Pizza?" "Dreams of world domination?" "Pepsi?"?
The bible doesn't mention it in relation to Jesus, but does in regards to Paul. He was celibate, without desire and wished that all could be so, but said if you're not, then get married.
For Paul it was a gift and he appreciated it.
So what's it like living in your mom's basement?
Incest
For me, its been a quantum thing. I am either fully on (as in, heterosexual) or off (asexual). It seems to be tied into diurnal rythms or some other biochemical cycle. It has been that way since puberty. Since I am married, the "on" parts of the cycle result in shall we say normal home life. The off parts mean that there are cooling off periods. As a result, I have not been tempted to stray. Not that its an excuse, but for those who are "on" all the time, I can see how they can end up becoming adulterers. I am glad I am not "on" all the time.
> Homosexuals use the term "breeder" as a derogatory label for heterosexuals.
Ummm... so? If the term is accurate, don't let it offend you. Instead have pride in it. That's the best way to squash the offensiveness of the term.
Or... don't breed. Your choice. But living in a constant state of being offended at *words* is unbecoming of a Freeper. Leave that crap to the DUers.
And I am shocked by all the disparaging comments on this thread. I wonder how many giving scorn here should be wearing the scarlet A? Now *that* would make for an interesting study.
Myself, I'd probably kill to be asexual. My sex drive ain't doing much good for me now anyway.
Perhaps He was! I certainly would not discount the possibility.
Since I've been around here for, oh, about five years longer than you, I think I'll pass on the lecture of how to comport myself on FR.
racoonradio made a plea for people not to "judge" asexuals. In the course of his post, he made derogatory comments about "breeders". I merely pointed out the irony of his requesting nonjudgmentalism, while at the same time he is being judgmental himself.
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