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October Surprise??? Navy Chief (from SBVT site)
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Posted on 10/12/2004 10:14:15 PM PDT by tazannie
I hope this is good
TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: courtmarshal; courtmartial; dishonorabldischarge; kerrydischarge; kerrylies; lessthanhonorable; swiftboat; swiftboatvets; swiftvets
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To: Alamo-Girl
641
posted on
10/13/2004 12:09:54 PM PDT
by
MistyCA
To: JLO
642
posted on
10/13/2004 12:10:15 PM PDT
by
MistyCA
To: finnigan2
Odds are, there were multiple "Boards of Review" rather than just one. All of their actions concerned the individual records of members of the Armed Services. Therefore, my understanding is that nothing about these review boards would be public information until an individual serviceman/woman signed a Form 180 authorizing public release of that information.
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To: MistyCA
LOL! I was pinging you!!! :)
&&
Yep, you must be one loud pinger to wake me up when my 'puter wasn't even booted up!
644
posted on
10/13/2004 12:23:47 PM PDT
by
Bigg Red
(Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
To: MistyCA
....this could really ruin Kerry's day.I'll go for that. Any way I can help? LOL!!
To: fooman
I have read the WSJ for 40 years. Although the editorial board is conservative its reporting is not necessarily so.
To: Uncle Hal
That is your problem. The rag went way left in the past two years. The above sample is typical. The paper is truly bipolar with the old guard running the marginalized ed page and the new lefties running the main show.
Take a look at the A1 article above and tell how it is balanced.
647
posted on
10/13/2004 12:48:53 PM PDT
by
fooman
(Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
To: Bigg Red
648
posted on
10/13/2004 12:51:25 PM PDT
by
MistyCA
To: Brownie74
Send emails. The MSM and Drudge are slow reacting to this. We can send the story around the net.
649
posted on
10/13/2004 12:52:45 PM PDT
by
MistyCA
To: MistyCA
I agree! Sitting on pins here waiting for a positive outcome! I've been out doing errands most of day. Have you heard anything yet? Anything new???
650
posted on
10/13/2004 1:04:55 PM PDT
by
SheLion
(PLEASE vote! We can't afford to be silent!!!! Do we really want FnKerry to run our Country?!)
To: SheLion
No. I have been answering pings. I need to go check things out.
651
posted on
10/13/2004 1:15:33 PM PDT
by
MistyCA
To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY; kabar; BigKahuna; The Real NavyChief
Board Review of discharges 1984-long read..there also was a Clemency discharge brought about by Pres Ford 1974 (deserters)..pertinent part(bottom of post) deals with reserve civilian misconduct..also mentions separation and discharge for officers..Board decisions are available in the Pentagon Reading room but names and other identifying info are redacted so I don't know how one could find it..
http://usmilitary.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://neds.nebt.daps.mil/Directives/5420174c.pdf
9.2 Propriety of the Discharge
a. A discharge shall be deemed to be proper unless, in the course of
discharge review, it is determined that:
(1) There exists an error of fact, law, procedure, or discretion
associated with the discharge at the time of issuance; and that the rights of
the applicant were prejudiced thereby (such error shall constitute prejudicial
error if there is substantial doubt that the discharge would have remained the
same if the error had not been made); or
(2) A change in policy by the military service of which the
applicant was a member, made expressly retroactive to the type of discharge
under consideration, requires a change in the discharge.
b. When a record associated with the discharge at the time of issuance
involves a matter in which the primary responsibility for corrective action
rests with another organization (for example, another Board, agency, or
court), the NDRB will recognize an error only to the extent that the error has
been corrected by the organization with primary responsibility for correcting
the record.
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c. The primary function of the NDRB is to exercise its discretion on
issues of equity by reviewing the individual merits of each application on a
case-by-case basis. Prior decisions in which the NDRB exercised its
discretion to change a discharge based on issues of equity (including the
Enclosure (1)
9-1
factors cited in such decisions or the weight given to factors in such
decisions) do not bind the NDRB in its review of subsequent cases because no
two cases present the same issues of equity.
d. The following applies to applicants who received less than fully
honorable administrative discharges because of their civilian misconduct while
in an inactive duty status in a reserve component and who were discharged or
had their discharge reviewed on or after April 20, 1971: the NDRB shall
either re characterize the discharge to Honorable without any additional
proceedings or additional proceedings shall be conducted in accordance with
the Courts Order of December 3, 1981, in Wood v. Secretary of Defense to
determine whether proper grounds exist for the issuance of a less than
honorable discharge, taking into account that:
(1) An other than honorable (formerly undesirable) discharge for an
inactive duty reservist can only be based upon civilian misconduct found to
have affected directly the performance of military duties;
(2) A general discharge for an inactive duty reservist can only be
based upon civilian misconduct found to have had an adverse impact on the
overall effectiveness of the military, including military morale and efficiency
To: tazannie
John Kerry will not be fazed by this. His numbers will not go down at all. It is not getting any coverage as it is. One lousy paper.
653
posted on
10/13/2004 1:48:24 PM PDT
by
satchmodog9
(Murder and weather are our only news)
To: satchmodog9
The WSJ just picked the story up. If the NYT liberal death star runs the story we will have something. It only becomes credible to the left and the MSM if it is in the NYT
654
posted on
10/13/2004 1:54:31 PM PDT
by
satchmodog9
(Murder and weather are our only news)
To: rolling_stone
there also was a Clemency discharge brought about by Pres Ford 1974 (deserters)..pertinent part(bottom of post) deals with reserve civilian misconduct..also mentions separation and discharge for officers.. This is an interesting historical fact about Kerry's "Lead Debate Negotiator":
Oct. 03 1974 - Vernon E. Jordan named to Clemency Board by Pres. Ford
To: SerpentDove
"What kind of paper is the NY SUN? I never heard of it but I'm from the Midwest." You remember...it's the paper that printed "Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus." And if this is the blockbuster it sounds like...then there IS. :-)))
Actually, that was the Baltimore Sun. Unlike Babe Ruth, it did not relocate to NYC. The Sun is a distant seventh or eighth in area circulation (NY Times, NY Post, NY Daily News, L.I. Newsday, Wall Street Jornal, Village Voice and maybe even the wretched Observer). But it is a legit paper.
656
posted on
10/13/2004 2:40:46 PM PDT
by
sittnick
(There's no salvation in politics.)
To: Piranha
Hey, watch the tagline. Bite me. Heh heh...;-D
657
posted on
10/13/2004 3:00:52 PM PDT
by
Judith Anne
(First we were digital brownshirts then we were pajamahadeen, now we're the piranha of the internet)
To: MistyCA; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
658
posted on
10/13/2004 3:40:24 PM PDT
by
cyn
(prayers always for Terri Schindler Schiavo, her family, and her supporters.)
To: MistyCA
No. I have been answering pings. I need to go check things out.Well, did you read Tonks ping? About Fox News???? How the hell are we going to win with the whole media against President Bush. I am so sick of this. Now I'm nervous about the debate tonight. The President can't WHIZ straight enough for these people There is a chipmunk in the woodpile, and that's for sure..........
Honorable Discharge???? (WSJ picks up NY Sun story)
FOX News NOT covering this story!
They are in Kerry's camp
They are afraid of being on Kerry's "press enemy list"
Chad Clanton told them about "the list" yesterday.
And FOX caved in.
The above is from Tonkin.
659
posted on
10/13/2004 3:43:30 PM PDT
by
SheLion
(PLEASE vote! We can't afford to be silent!!!! Do we really want FnKerry to run our Country?!)
To: cyn
660
posted on
10/13/2004 4:38:29 PM PDT
by
MistyCA
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