Posted on 10/08/2004 8:29:33 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
Debate Highlights
He Said It
President George W. Bush: "He's Got A Record. He's Been There For 20 Years. You Can Run, But You Can't Hide." (President George W. Bush, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)
Setting the Record Straight on the $87 Billion
In Response To Question 18 President Bush Criticized Kerry's Vote Against The $87 Billion. He complains about the fact our troops don't have adequate equipment, yet he voted against the $87 billion supplemental I sent to the Congress and then issued one of the most amazing quotes in political history: "I actually did vote for $87 billion before I voted against it. (President George W. Bush, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)
THE REAL RECORD: KERRY'S NINE POSITIONS ON THE $87 BILLION
1. Kerry Has Already Taken Eight Positions On The $87 Billion
2. Kerry Said It Would Be "Irresponsible" To Vote Against Funding Troops. (CBS' "Face the Nation," 9/14/03)
3. Kerry Claims "I Actually Did Vote For The $87 Billion Before I Voted Against It." (Sen. John Kerry, Speech In Huntington, WV, 3/16/04)
4. Kerry Later Said He Was "Proud" That He Voted Against $87 Billion In Funding For U.S. Soldiers. (John Kerry, Remarks at "Women's Voices: A Luncheon with John Kerry," Boston, MA, 7/12/04)
5. Kerry Then Said His Vote Against Body Armor And Supplies For Troops Was "Complicated." (MSNBC's "Imus in the Morning," 7/15/04)
6. Kerry Even Said His Vote For The War And Against Funding For Our Troops Was "Not A Flip-Flop." (CBS' "Evening News," 7/21/04)
7. Kerry Then Defended His Vote Against The $87 Billion By Saying President Bush "Didn't Have A Plan To Win The Peace, It Was Irresponsible To Give [President Bush] A Blank Check That Gave $20 Billion That Was Going To Go To Halliburton And All These Other Companies." (Mike Allen And Lois Romano, "Closing Laps In Race To November," The Washington Post, 9/4/04)
8. Kerry Said He's "Glad" He Voted Against The Iraq Supplemental. (CBS' "The Late Show With David Letterman," 9/20/04)
9. Kerry Said His Vote Against The Iraq Supplemental "Was A Protest. Sometimes You Have To Stand Up And Be Counted." (ABC's "Good Morning America," 9/29/04)
Kerry's Flip-Flop On Labels
Tonight's Flip:
In Response To Question 12 John Kerry Said, "Number One, Don't Throw The Labels Around. Labels Don't Mean Anything." (Sen. John Kerry, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)
Yesterday's Flop:
John Kerry: "I'm A Liberal And Proud Of It." ("Gee, There Were So Many In 1988," St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 7/21/91)
Kerry Flip-Flops On The Patriot Act
Tonight's Flip:
In Response To Question One, John Kerry Said: "Now, The Three Things They Try To Say I've Changed Position On Are The Patriot Act. I Haven't. I Support It." (Sen. John Kerry, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)
Yesterday's Flops:
Kerry Called For Replacing PATRIOT With New Law. "So it is time to end the era of John Ashcroft. That starts with replacing the Patriot Act with a new law that protects our people and our liberties at the same time." (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At Iowa State University, 12/1/03)
Kerry Attacks Patriot Act. "We are a nation of laws and liberties, not of a knock in the night. So it is time to end the era of John Ashcroft. That starts with replacing the Patriot Act with a new law that protects our people and our liberties at the same time. I've been a District Attorney and I know that what law enforcement needs are real tools not restrictions on American's basic rights." (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At Iowa State University, 12/1/03)
Kerry Said It: "I've Never Changed My Mind About Iraq"
In Response To Question Two John Kerry Claimed He Has Not Changed His Mind On Iraq. Kerry: "I've never changed my mind about Iraq. I did believe Saddam Hussein was a threat. I always believed he was a threat believed it in 1998, when Clinton was president. I wanted to give Clinton the power to use force if necessary." (Sen. John Kerry, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)
THE REAL RECORD: KERRY'S ELEVEN POSITIONS ON THE WAR IN IRAQ
October 2002: Kerry Voted For Use Of Force Resolution Against Iraq.
April 2003: Kerry Promised Not To Attack President When War Began, But Weeks Later, With Troops Just Miles From Baghdad, Kerry Broke His Pledge And Called For "Regime Change In The United States."
May 2003: In First Dem Debate, Kerry Strongly Supported President's Action In Iraq.
September 2003: Kerry Said Voting Against The $87 Billion Supplemental Would Be "Irresponsible."
October 2003: Kerry Voted Against The $87 Billion Supplemental Supporting Our Troops.
January 2004: After Voting For War And Trailing Candidate Howard Dean In The Democrat Primaries, Kerry Says He Is Anti-War Candidate.
August 2004: In Response To President's Question About How He Would Have Voted If He Knew Then What He Knows Now, Kerry Confirmed That He Would Still Have Voted For Use Of Force Resolution.
September 2004: Kerry: Iraq Is "The Wrong War In The Wrong Place At The Wrong Time."
September 2004: Kerry Says There Were No Circumstances Under Which We Should Have Gone To War, But He Was Still Right To Vote For It.
Kerry Said That The Removal Of Saddam Hussein Has Left America "Less Secure."
Kerry On Whether The Iraq War Was Worth It: "It Depends On The Outcome."
Kerry's Flip-Flop On Diplomacy
Tonight's Flip:
In Response To Question Four John Kerry Said, "But The President Just Arbitrarily Brought The Hammer Down And Said Nope, Sorry, Time For Diplomacy Is Over, We're Going." (Sen. John Kerry, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)
Yesterday's Flop:
March 2003: As War Began, Kerry Said Saddam Choose "To Make Military Force The Ultimate Weapons Inspections Enforcement Mechanism." "Senator John F. Kerry had lambasted Bush's diplomatic efforts, despite voting last fall in support of a congressional resolution authorizing military action to disarm Iraq of any weapons of mass destruction. 'It appears that with the deadline for exile come and gone, Saddam Hussein has chosen to make military force the ultimate weapons inspections enforcement mechanism,' Kerry said." (Glen Johnson, "Critics Of Bush Voice Support For The Troops," The Boston Globe, 3/20/03)
Setting the Record Straight on Education
In Response To Question One John Kerry Said, "No Child Left Behind Act. I Voted For It. I Support It. I Support The Goals. But The President Has Under Funded It By $28 Billion." (Sen. John Kerry, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)
The Real Record:
President Bush Has Provided The Highest Education Funding Percentage Increase Since President Johnson And Increased Education Funding More In Four Years Than Bill Clinton Did In Eight Years. Elementary and Secondary education funding has increased $12.2 billion (49 percent) from $24.7 billion in 2001 to $36.9 billion in 2005. ("Not Since LBJ," Investor's Business Daily, 7/1/04; "2005 Budget Summary For Education," U.S. Department Of Education, 2/04)
"States Collectively Have $16.8 Billion In Unspent Federal Education Funds, All Of Which Has Been Available To Them For At Least A Year." (U.S. House Committee On Education And The Workforce, "New Government Data Confirms Federal Education Funding Is Increasing More Quickly Than States Can Spend It," Press Release, 6/29/2004)
Washington Post Editorial: "Funding For Education Has Increased Under The Bush Administration, And In Any Case Money Isn't The Main Obstacle To The Law's Success." (Editorial, "The Choice of Schooling," The Washington Post, 9/23/04)
Elementary And Secondary Education Funding Has Increased 130 Percent Since 2000. "Contrary to the repeated falsehoods by the teachers unions and left-wing activists, spending on primary and secondary education is soaring. In 2005, it will be up 130% not a misprint from President Clinton's last year in office." ("School Daze," Investors Business Daily, 9/23/04)
Kerry's Flip-Flop On Intelligence
Tonight's Flip:
In Response To Question Seven John Kerry Talked About The Importance Of Intelligence. Kerry: "Because the most important weapon in doing that is intelligence. You got to have the best intelligence in the world, and in order to have the best intelligence in the world, to know who the terrorists are, and where they are, and what they're plotting, you've got to have the best cooperation you've ever had in the world." (Sen. John Kerry, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)
Yesterday's Flop:
While On The Senate Intelligence Committee, Kerry Missed 76 Percent Of Public Hearings. During John Kerry's eight years of service on the Senate's Select Committee on Intelligence, there were 49 open, public hearings. Of these 49, John Kerry attended just 11 (22.4 percent). (Factcheck.org, "Bush Nails Kerry's Poor Attendance at Intelligence Committee Hearings," 8/17/04, Available At http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=241)
In 1994, Not Long After First World Trade Center Attack, Kerry Proposed An Amendment To Cut Intelligence Budget By $6 Billion Across The Board Over Six Years.
Kerry's Flip-Flop On Medical Liability Reform
Tonight's Flip:
In Response To Question Nine John Kerry Claimed To Support Tort Reform. "John Edwards and I support tort reform. We both believe that as lawyers -- I'm a lawyer too and I believe that we will be able to get a fix that has eluded everybody else because we know how to do it." (Sen. John Kerry, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)
Yesterday's Flop:
Kerry Opposed Or Voted To Block Medical Liability Reform At Least Ten Times.
Kerry Missed Both 2004 Votes On Medical Liability Reform.
Medical Liability Reform Could Save Between $60 Billion And $108 Billion In Health Care Costs Annually, Making Health Insurance More Affordable For Millions. ("Confronting The New Health Care Crisis: Improving Health Care Quality And Lowering Costs By Fixing Our Medical Liability System," U.S. Department Of Health And Human Services, 7/25/02, http://www.aspe.hhs.gov/daltcp/reports/litrefm.htm)
Since 1989, Kerry Has Received $15,217,154 From Lawyers, Most Of Any Senator In That Time Period. (Center For Responsive Politics Website, www.opensecrets.org, Accessed 8/16/04)
Kerry's Flip-Flop On Middle Class Tax Cuts
Tonight's Flip:
Kerry Claims "I Am Not Going To Raise Taxes" On The Middle Class. QUESTION: "Thank you. Senator Kerry, would you be willing to look directly into the camera and using simple and unequivocal language, give the American people your solemn pledge not to sign any legislation that will increase the tax burden on families earning less than $200,000 a year during your first term?" SENATOR JOHN KERRY: "Absolutely. Yes. Right into the camera. Yes. I am not going to raise taxes." (Sen. John Kerry, Second Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO, 10/8/04)
Yesterday's Flop:
In 1995, Kerry Voted For A Resolution That Said Middle Class Tax Cuts Were Not Wise. The sense of the Senate amendment, killed on a motion by Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT), said, "reducing the deficit should be one of the nation's highest priorities, and that a middle-class tax cut would undermine and be inconsistent with the goal of achieving a balanced budget." (H.J. Res. 1, CQ Vote #67: Motion Agreed To 66-32: R 49-3; D 17-29, 2/14/95, Kerry Voted Nay)
Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI), Sponsor Of Resolution, Said Senators Need "Will" To Resist Middle Class Tax Cut. (Sen. Russ Feingold, Congressional Record, 2/14/95, p. S2617)
Kerry Voted Against Amendment To FY 2004 Budget Resolution That Would Extend $1,000 Child Tax Credit Until 2013.
Kerry Sponsored And Voted For Motion To Kill Marriage Penalty Relief For Couples Earning Less Than $50,000 Per Year. "Kerry, D-Mass., motion to table (kill) the Gramm, R-Texas, amendment The Gramm amendment would allow couples with combined incomes under $50,000 a year to claim an additional $3,300 income tax deduction, thus eliminating the so-called marriage penalty for those in that income bracket." Sen. Gramm's marriage penalty relief would have saved taxpayers $46 billion over 10 years. The amendment also would allowed self-employed individuals to deduct health insurance costs on their income taxes. (S. 1415, CQ Vote #154: Rejected 48-50: R 5-49; D 43-1, 6/10/98, Kerry Voted Yea)
Kerry Voted Three Times Against Repealing The 1993 Clinton Tax Increase On Social Security Benefits.
Kerry Voted Against The 2001 And 2003 Tax Cuts.
Kerry Voted Against Eliminating Clinton-Instituted 4.3-Cent Tax On Transportation Fuels.
Kerry lies more than Gore and I didn't think that was possible.
Please make sure your local media gets a copy of these along with everyone you know or might be interested.
Thanks!
Did anyone tape this?? I missed it due to family being here and I'd GLADLY pay for a good copy!!!
I will pass them on to everybody but ABC, who thinks that Kerry lies deserve a pass.
It's on CSPAN right now............but the other cables will surely rerun it later tonight..they always do.
Sorry I didn't tape it but I've been told ........tivo is yer friend !
Hi PKM, we sure needed this one tonight, and we got it. The President just oozes with class.(and courage under fire I might add)
Very nice.
BTW, add this one. Kerry claims we had a $5 trillion surplus when the truth-challenged president left office. In truth we had about a $5.5 trillion dollar deficit.
Kerry, not just another pretty face. He's a very gifted prevaricator.
This is the turning point of the election.
Gw said he would appoint supreme court judges who would
be strict constructionists, they would use the constitution
to interpret the law.
John Kerry said he would appoint judges that would use the law to judge the constitution.
BTTT
Agree with you completely.
The President did a stellar job.
I never heard of Tradesports before tonight.
But one thing I have already learned: it is absolutely irrelevant and something no one should take seriously.
WOO HOO!!!
MOREOVER BUSH WON BIG ON THE DOMESTIC ISSUES TONIGHT AS WELL AS FORIEGN POLICY. HE TOOK IT TO KERRY EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. YOU COULD TELL (AND IT WAS OBVIOUS TO THE VIEWER) THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS READY AND CAPABLE OF STRAIGHTENING OUT KERRY'S GLOOM AND DOOM. THE PRESIDENT SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT ON TAXES, MEDICAL REFORM AND ABORTION. HE WAS THE BEST I'VE EVER SEEN HIM TONIGHT! YIPEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
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