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Battle of Lepanto
Posted on 10/07/2004 9:47:44 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: omega4412
Also a tip of the hat to Battle of Lepanto veteran, Miguel de Cervantes.
To: omega4412
For battle details, a book with many maps and illustrations that I liked was:
Lepanto 1571, The greatest naval battle of the Renaissance: Angus Konstam. Pub: Osprey
The battle also merited a chapter of the Victor Davis Hanson book "Carnage and Culture".
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posted on
10/07/2004 10:28:13 AM PDT
by
Willgamer
(Rex Lex or Lex Rex?)
To: omega4412
The Battle of Lepanto (1571)
Paolo Veronese
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posted on
10/07/2004 10:29:28 AM PDT
by
B-Chan
(Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
To: Drawsing
I thought I only remembered stuff like that.
(I don't have time for you!)
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posted on
10/07/2004 10:30:07 AM PDT
by
oyez
(¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
To: Aetius
The Song of Roland is another one that has pretty much disappeared from literature classes, for the same reason. These poems show just how long this battle has gone on. Time to end it once and for all.
To: KC_Conspirator
It is now, but it wasn't then. Then it was a part of the Holy Roman Empire, ruled by the Catholic Hapsburgs. The Empire had several ports on the Mediterranean. Lepanto was one of the two huge, significant battles that stopped the advance of Islam into Europe. The other was the battle of Vienna about a century later, where the Turkish (Islamic) siege of Vienna was broken.
To: ladyrustic
Actually it was the Dale Ahlquist-edited book I bought, and read the poem & commentary. I'll try to get to Carnage & Culture sometime soon though.
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posted on
10/07/2004 10:44:28 AM PDT
by
nina0113
To: DeFault User
"Also a tip of the hat to Battle of Lepanto veteran, Miguel de Cervantes."
"El Manco de Lepanto." Cervantes lost the use of his left arm in the Battle of Lepanto; thank God it wasn't his right arm, or we may have never gotten Don Quixote.
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posted on
10/07/2004 10:53:15 AM PDT
by
AuH2ORepublican
(Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
To: omega4412
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posted on
10/07/2004 11:04:45 AM PDT
by
skinkinthegrass
(Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
To: B-Chan
I think that naval battle is regarded as the swansong of the ram-equipped, oar-powered galley. The galley's had cannons, but they generally fired straight forward because the sides were fully consumed with oars.
After this battle, the sail powered galleon with broadside-firing cannon became the gold standard of naval power.
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posted on
10/07/2004 11:07:40 AM PDT
by
Tallguy
(If the Kerry campaign implodes any further, they'll reach the point of "singularity" by election day)
To: omega4412
What would surprise pretty much any well-educated person who is even
aware that such a battle took place, is the number of famous "recognizable" names who participated in this battle and the larger war.
I won't spoil it for anyone...
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posted on
10/07/2004 11:10:15 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(I, also, don't do diplomacy.)
To: LS
Well, my students have to write a paper on it because we use "Carnage and Culture" as our textbook! You will get a bill for emergency services that resulted from my fainting!
Pray tell... what public school might this be?
yes, I am being sarcastic...
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posted on
10/07/2004 11:13:01 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(I, also, don't do diplomacy.)
To: nina0113
I have that book! It is really good!
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posted on
10/07/2004 11:14:53 AM PDT
by
Pyro7480
(Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
To: Aetius
It isn't taught in school. Bump for later read.
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posted on
10/07/2004 11:20:44 AM PDT
by
IrishCatholic
(No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
To: Publius6961
You caught me! I teach at a PRIVATE Catholic school, the University of Dayton.
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posted on
10/07/2004 11:42:42 AM PDT
by
LS
To: Tallguy
Regarding the galley, a Christian edge at Lepanto was 70 of a prototype ship called the galleas which was an attempt to put galleon firepower on a galley.
Over the long run, the galleas, like the clipper ship, was a doomed concept.
To: omega4412
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posted on
10/07/2004 1:46:25 PM PDT
by
BayouCoyote
(The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
To: Sam the Sham
If I'm not mistake the Galleyas (sp?) was pretty much a galley with raised fighting platforms at the fo'csle & poop decks. Works fine for light guns & marines, but not for heavier guns that were on the horizon. Plus that must have made an oar powered vessel very unmanagable in the wind.
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posted on
10/07/2004 3:14:00 PM PDT
by
Tallguy
(If the Kerry campaign implodes any further, they'll reach the point of "singularity" by election day)
To: Tallguy
That is why I likened it to the clipper ship as a technological peak. It was the peak in terms of putting firepower on a galley. But of course ocean going vessels got bigger and stronger and there is a fixed maximum in terms of what can be rowed.
To: LS
I was hoping it was a high school. Actually, not too long ago, this would have been latter grade school material.
Better late than never however. Good luck with your superior curriculum.
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posted on
10/09/2004 1:36:28 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(I, also, don't do diplomacy.)
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