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Air Force Looks at New Microwave Weapon
Yahoo ^ | Mon Oct 4,10:20 PM ET | JAMES HANNAH, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 10/05/2004 12:57:43 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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Air Force Looks at New Microwave Weapon

Mon Oct 4,10:20 PM ET

By JAMES HANNAH, Associated Press Writer

DAYTON, Ohio - The Air Force expects planes will be able to fire non-lethal microwave rays at enemy ground troops with the help of a new superconducting generator system developed at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base after about 25 years of research.


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Heavy, inefficient generators have been a hurdle to the development of airborne microwave weapons, which create a disabling burning sensation.

Microwaves could be used to control large groups of enemy fighters without killing them or disable electronics-dependent enemy weapons, said Philip Coyle, senior adviser for the Center for Defense Information.

The Air Force is preparing to award a $22 million contract to a private contractor to construct and demonstrate the new electrical generating system by 2009.

"We finally have the materials where we're ready to build this generator," Lt. Col. JoAnn Erno, chief of the power division of Air Force Research Laboratory's Propulsion Directorate, said Monday.

Microwaves — high-powered electromagnetic beams that can rapidly heat water molecules — and other directed-energy weapons could bring advantages to the battlefield in places like Iraq (news - web sites) and Afghanistan (news - web sites), where U.S. troops have had to deal with hostile but unarmed crowds as well as dangerous insurgents.

Aside from paralyzing potential attackers or noncombatants like a long-range stun gun, the weapons could disable the electronics of missiles and roadside bombs or even disable a vehicle in a high-speed chase, developers say. The weapons emit a pulse of energy and can destroy semiconductors with a surge of volts.

Erno said conventional generators, which have heavy copper coils, are large, heavy and less efficient in producing power than the superconducting generators. Planes carrying conventional generators would have to fly at low altitudes and be in danger of being shot down by small-arms fire, she said.

"We can't take those airborne," Erno said. "What we have to do from the Air Force side is to produce much smaller superconducting generators."

Powered by a turbine engine, the new generators are about the size of a small beer keg and designed to produce five megawatts of power.

The generators have lightweight metal foils coated with superconducting material that carry many times more current and are more efficient, making possible an electric power system strong enough for microwave weapons and light enough for airplanes.

Erno said the system would probably be used on cargo planes such as C-130s. With a superconducting generator, the system will weigh about half of its current 20,000 pounds, which is the equivalent of about eight Toyota Corollas.

"They've got something going there," said Ivan Oelrich, director of strategic security programs for the Federation of American Scientists, a private group dedicated to ending the arms race and avoiding the use of nuclear weapons. "What they're trying to do is doable."

However, Oelrich said that to operate a diesel engine to power the generator will require a lot of fuel, adding weight and cost to the operation.

"If you're going to use it continuously, then the fuel will be the big weight factor," he said. "To operate a thing like that requires a few tons of fuel per hour."

Oelrich also questioned whether the Air Force had considered a less efficient, but less expensive superconducting system. He said the proposed system could be expensive to maintain and might require multiple backup systems.

Coyle said it is not yet known how effective microwave weapons will be. For example, he said, it may take a lot of microwaves to disable just a few enemy weapons, and microwaves may not be effective in battling small numbers of insurgents in urban areas because the fighters hide and seek cover behind buildings.

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On the Net:

Air Force Research Lab: http://www.afrl.af.mil/

Federation of American Scientists: http://www.fas.org/



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: miltech; nonlethal; usaf
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1 posted on 10/05/2004 12:57:43 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I just don't get how you trick your enemies into getting inside a microwave. Why wouldn't you just shoot them intead?


;)


2 posted on 10/05/2004 1:00:31 AM PDT by freestyle
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Cook then bastards like Betty Crocker!
3 posted on 10/05/2004 1:01:07 AM PDT by FesterUSMC (If you don't have the hammer your going to be the anvil, and I would rather be the hammer!FesterUSMC)
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To: freestyle
intead = instead
4 posted on 10/05/2004 1:01:24 AM PDT by freestyle
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"Kills the enemy and feeds the troops that killed them, in just minutes!"


5 posted on 10/05/2004 1:03:27 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Let's hope the enemies start making the interiors of their vehicles Microwave Safe, so they can easily wash out the remains.


6 posted on 10/05/2004 1:04:32 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Forget this "non-lethal" stuff. When are we going to have the BattleZOT on line?


7 posted on 10/05/2004 1:04:53 AM PDT by RichInOC (MOVE 'ZOT'. FOR GREAT JUSTICE.)
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To: freestyle
You have a large head floating over the battle field and microwave rays coming out of its mouth...no wait... that's Monty Python, never mind.....it is getting late, I am seeing Python vision...time for bed...
8 posted on 10/05/2004 1:08:24 AM PDT by DSBull (Truth is the light of the World, shine it everywhere)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"DAYTON, Ohio - The Air Force expects planes will be able to fire non-lethal microwave rays at enemy ground troops"

Non-lethal, if you can survive your organs exploding from within.

9 posted on 10/05/2004 1:10:21 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: DSBull
"You have a large head floating over the battle field"

Finally, someone's found a use for Ted Kennedy!

10 posted on 10/05/2004 1:11:15 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: RichInOC

Microwave guns, eh?

"Set phasers on 'High' for three minutes, Mr. Sulu!"


11 posted on 10/05/2004 1:12:44 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Whose side would you rather be on? The Moon god worshippers, or people who've been to the Moon?)
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12 posted on 10/05/2004 2:52:09 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (I pray that Im wrong about alot of things.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

we need to perfect the particle cannon :p
btw can anyone find the freerepublic article on generals. Something about it , the liberals said it was racist and the arab's loved to play had several quotes from the. Search freerepublic is like searching for a needle in a haystack.


13 posted on 10/05/2004 2:53:41 AM PDT by Kewlhand`tek (I hope that was outgoing!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Looks like, once again, the Air Force is behind the curve:

ARMORED WARFARE: Electronic Sheriff goes to Baghdad [microwave beam, anti-RPG, anti-sniper]

    Someone in the Department of Defense, with a twisted sense of irony or humor, has dubbed the vehicle that will carry a non-lethal microwave weapon in Iraq, the "Sheriff." The Office of Force Transformation expects to deploy four to six Active Denial Systems (ADS) to Iraq by September 2005. The ADS gear will be mounted on Marine Corps' LAV, U.S Army's Stryker or M1117 Armored Security Vehicle. The microwave system is designed to cause a painful, burning sensation to skin, discomforting attackers until they get out of the way of the line-of-sight weapon. Range of the system is between 500 and 1,000 meters.

Of course, it's a lot easier to put something in a ground vehicle than it is in a plane.

14 posted on 10/05/2004 3:53:16 AM PDT by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: TomB
Thrid-world country microwave detection gear:


15 posted on 10/05/2004 4:06:22 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("We will crush Al Qaeda"....Silky Pony)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yep,ever single chicken in the henhouse is dead.The eggs all blowed up jist like hand grenades. :(


16 posted on 10/05/2004 4:12:35 AM PDT by Free Trapper (Terrorism is the Black Heart of Islam,not the fringe!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

17 posted on 10/05/2004 5:23:28 AM PDT by Gucho
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To: Gucho

11?

Is that as loud as that goes?


18 posted on 10/05/2004 5:27:11 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (So sKerry pulled a pen from his jacket, he still broke rules he agreed to..)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It ought to be possible to boost any "non-lethal" item like this to a full "crispy critter" setting. Crowd control and a barbecue to boot. Phasers on "kill" boys and girls, phasers on "kill".


20 posted on 10/05/2004 1:31:51 PM PDT by katana
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