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Why Bush Won
The American Spectator ^ | 10-01-04 | John Tabin

Posted on 10/01/2004 4:24:55 AM PDT by veronica

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To: uncbob

In addition I think the so called Undecided Voter Is A MYTH

They are Either

1. Telling the pollers they are UNDECIDED because they don't want to admit they don't know what the hell is going on and in reality won't vote

2. Just like the attention they get from the pundits and the politicians in trying to obtain their vote and in reality won't vote

THere may be some at this point that haven't made up their minds but I doubt the % is significant


41 posted on 10/01/2004 5:09:28 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: GailA

First off, Kerry clearly won the debate. There is nothing to be ashamed of and no reason to make excuses. Kerry demonstrated that he has the composure to stand up in front of the people of the United States, look us in the eye, and lie.

Kerry is about Rhetoric. That has always been his style. Last night he didn't answer one question about what he was going to do. He did spend 90 minutes telling everyone what Bush has done wrong. That is what wins debates.

Bush has his record to defend, Kerry, insulated by the media from attacks has nothing to lose and can say whatever he wants to. There are no excused today. Kerry won. Kerry managed to do what had to be done. Give a wink and a nod to the anti-war movement(wrong place wrong war wrong time) while saying he will put more troops into Iraq(keep us in the quagmire)

Fight it, whine about it, deny it, counter it. But Kerry did win.






42 posted on 10/01/2004 5:10:04 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information given to society and you control society.)
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To: crv16
My wife and I both thought this was an absolute horrible showing for the President . . . . Bush looked tired, acted defensive, and was very nonpersuasive in my opinion. My sentiments exactly. I turned off the television a little after 10:00, read some passages from the Bible, prayed for President Bush and went to bed. I couldn't bear to watch it any more. From my days in MBA school, I learned that perception IS reality. The President didn't get the job done last night, and I'm worried. It's October now, and I'm waiting on that October surprise more than ever to put this election beyond reach for sKerry!
43 posted on 10/01/2004 5:11:22 AM PDT by piperpilot (Right is right!)
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To: crv16

Kerry looked like the kept, poofed, pampered paramour of a rich woman who had spent his day at the spa getting manicured, pedicured and spray tanned. The President looked like a man who had supported his own family and cut his own nails and spent the day touring the storm devastation in Florida.

At the end, when TeRAYza waddled onstage and endured yet another hug in that grimacing way (cute at 16, not so cute at 65) contrasted with the President's family coming onstage and gladly greeting their man - - don't think that very small thing doesn't resonate.

I'm crude enough to have noticed that the unfortunate pronunciation of the name "Putin" coming out of Kerry's tongue-darting mouth was not attractive in contrast with the President's more glamourous "Vladimir" first name basis with world leaders.


44 posted on 10/01/2004 5:12:14 AM PDT by Twinkie
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To: veronica
Reason Bush won: Kerry lied his botox butt off. The debate format needs to add a fact checker like ESPN does in PTI. After the debate, lies should be met by the truth and then have the candidate explain why they were making "facts" up.
45 posted on 10/01/2004 5:15:26 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: albie

"America is not safer..."

I do not know why Bush did not jump on this.....he could have said, "Sen. Kerry, you are still standing here aren't you?"


46 posted on 10/01/2004 5:20:43 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Hatteras
Less than one minute into the debate she rolled her eyes and said, "Gawwwwd, what an ass..."

My wife who isn't a political junkie either, upon seeing Kerry said, "He looks like he's dead."

47 posted on 10/01/2004 5:21:17 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: piperpilot

I should also add that I am disappointed to see some of the spin coming out of the debates on our side. I read American Spectator on line every morning when I get into work, and every article this morning attempted to explain why Bush won. I never thought of AS as a bunch of Kool-Aid drinkers, but to say that Bush won the debate simply ignores the extremely poor performance of the President, and all our excuse-making and rationalization of the performance won't change the fact that it was bad. We need to be able to acknowledge it and outperform Kerry in every aspect going forward in order to make up for it. Am I being harsh? Absolutely. Do I need to be? Again, absolutely. This election is too important to lose. We are quite literally fighting for our lives in this election and we cannot afford to allow the Dims a single opportunity to get back in the game. The way I see it, the only result of this debate is that sKerry lives to fight another day.


48 posted on 10/01/2004 5:22:51 AM PDT by piperpilot (Right is right!)
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To: ConservativeBamaFan
I remember thinking that Jack Kemp would TOAST Al Gore and boy was I dissappointed.

I remember that one. I think Jack Kemp had been beaten over the head by the RINOS running the party that year into thinking that the Amercian people didn't want to see 'confrontation', so he reined in his personality and was just a bland, white-bread presence. That accomplished the impossible; he made Algore look good!

49 posted on 10/01/2004 5:23:00 AM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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To: Jaidyn

Did you notice that Kerry referred to our troops as "kids" at one point? It was not planned -- a slip, no doubt, but showed his true feelings.

Kerry thinks he is so superior and "above" all the rest of us.

He is an elitist/globalist/internationalist who wants to relegate the U.S. to the status of a third world country. imo


50 posted on 10/01/2004 5:23:22 AM PDT by i_dont_chat
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To: i_dont_chat
He is an elitist/globalist/internationalist who wants to relegate the U.S. to the status of a third world country.

All the elitists, globalists and internationalists are already voting for him. The 'kids' in the military don't exist but the men and women in the military will vote for Bush, as will their families. Did you pick up on his talking about speaking out against Viet Nam and Iraq in the same sentence? That will hurt him, too, but I think he already ceded that loss, so will continue.

51 posted on 10/01/2004 5:31:15 AM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: crv16

"My wife and I both thought this was an absolute horrible showing for the President."

Agreed. Whoever prepared him for this should be fired. He needed to demonstrate that Kerry was inconsistant on all the foreing policy issues. All he did was SAY he was inconsistant. Some examples would have been VERY effective. He should have highlighted Kerry's votes that would have weaken the military. Talk about how Kerry missed the intelligence briefings. Stress how he has demoralized the troops. Jeez it was painful to watch.


52 posted on 10/01/2004 5:32:18 AM PDT by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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To: Bob from De

yes, Kerry lied, stylishly.


53 posted on 10/01/2004 5:33:03 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: roaddog727
There was something here more than the debates. Kerry had to talk to all the people at the same time. No matter what he said, he was going to alienate a good portion of his potential voters. He tried the the wishy washy I am kind of for it and kind of against it. I think it achieved just the opposite of the desired effect and alienated most of his potential voters.
54 posted on 10/01/2004 5:34:08 AM PDT by Revolutionary
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To: Twinkie
Kerry looked like the kept, poofed, pampered paramour of a rich woman who had spent his day at the spa getting manicured, pedicured and spray tanned. The President looked like a man who had supported his own family and cut his own nails and spent the day touring the storm devastation in Florida.

That's one of the most accurate summaries I've seen. Thank you.

At the end, when TeRAYza waddled onstage and endured yet another hug in that grimacing way (cute at 16, not so cute at 65)

At the end, when TeRAYza waddled onstage and endured yet another hug in that grimacing way (cute at 16, not so cute at 65)

HAAAHAAAHAAAA!

55 posted on 10/01/2004 5:35:16 AM PDT by silent_jonny ("I love the smell of ruined careers in the morning. It smells like ... like victory!")
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To: veronica

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,134152,00.html

JFK:

"With respect to Iran, the British, French, and Germans were the ones who initiated an effort without the United States, regrettably, to begin to try to move to curb the nuclear possibilities in Iran. I believe we could have done better."

"I think the United States should have offered the opportunity to provide the nuclear fuel, test them, see whether or not they were actually looking for it for peaceful purposes."


56 posted on 10/01/2004 5:36:09 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: veronica

Good post, Thanks

I also caught the remark from Kerry saying to sway other countries to join us he would ask them what they needed from us. Now that shows real leadership....Not.

Bush had some missed opportunities to give a knock-down punch. The biggest one is when Kerry said Bush left the job of surching for Osama to some warlords, and deployed the troops instead to Iraq. Bush was silent in his reply. He should of came back and said tell that to the thousands of troops in Afghanistan, and then listed the divisions by name who are there or that have been there and give a list of their accomplishments. The non-answer Bush gave gave the impression that Kerry was right.

My nephew just returned from Afghanistan with the 501st PIR and believe me ther is lots going on there. Weapons are being uncovered, Followers of Osama are dying in battles or are being arrested, and Osama is hiding for his life.


57 posted on 10/01/2004 5:36:10 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: veronica

Kerry's shills today are going to be explaining today what Kerry meant by his "global test" comments. Bush said nothing of note that will be met with the same scrutiny.

Sometimes it takes a few days for the dust to settle on these things. Initial impressions are not always lasting ones.

Rush was right yesterday (as usual) when he said that the standard pundit response to the debate would be that Kerry acquitted himself well and that the race will now "tighten". I heard those comments at least a dozen times from various commentators.


58 posted on 10/01/2004 5:37:04 AM PDT by randita
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To: APFel
I agree. Bush was awful last night. I couldn't bear to watch it. It was as though he was trying to remember talking points and was not being himself.

I agree with you. Bush missed a couple of opportunities to bury Kerry. When Kerry was grousing about France, Germany and Russia not being able to get contracts, why didn't Bush mention Oil for Food and the terrible scandal of their involvement? Bush did look tongue-tied repeating the same phrases over and over again. Bush could have done so much better.

59 posted on 10/01/2004 5:37:38 AM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: veronica

KERRY "FLIP FLOPS" IN DEBATE
Well I have come to realize in all of this confussion on who is "better" to lead this free world!!!
I have come to the realization that there is no one one better to lead us into victory other than our President Bush!!!
This hit me while I watched the Bush/Kerry debate...(3times get you )
Theses are the facts:
1. Bush did out debate Kerry (And gave the facts to back his words up).
2. And most important... Bush can clearly out drink Kerry...
In the debate Bush had taken 17 drinks of his water (ya right ) and if you noticed Bush only used his right hand... finishing off three glasses (the glass that Bush drank out of was a plain flat round water glass Kerry drank out of a wine glass).
While Kerry only took two drinks (Hehehehehe Well we all know about Kerry), one at the first of the debate... He picked up his wine glass with his left hand and quenched his thirst... Well later on in the debate Kerry took another drink ( I bet you can't guess what hand he used). This time picking up his wine/water glass with his right hand (Hehehe). Hummm... Haven't we heard this sound before... Flip Flop.
Kerry can't even decide which hand he want's to drink from...
Well I'm sold...President Bush can out debate, "Out drink" Kerry, and it only takes him one hand to get it done! I think that, that says it all.
God bless Texas and God bless America! : ) <<< me


60 posted on 10/01/2004 5:38:18 AM PDT by stopsign ( ("What great fortune for government, that people don't think". ...Der Fuher... [hummmm...]))
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