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This is where I disagree with the President, who on this point has his head up his.........
1 posted on 09/27/2004 11:40:43 PM PDT by Robert Lomax
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Then apply RICO to the employers hiring them, Jorge. Confiscate their property if they're caught. Easier, cheaper and it gets the job done. Dry up the jobs and the taxpayer assistance, and they'll deport themselves.


2 posted on 09/27/2004 11:47:17 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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I agree, But John Kerry would be worse than Bush is on the border! Kerry is a total slave to European thinking and Mexico now say that we need to be like Europe and not even, patrol our border! LOL So, Kerry wouldn't even have border patrol! Because in Europe they don't have it!
4 posted on 09/27/2004 11:54:43 PM PDT by FesterUSMC
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Unbelievable, that in a time of war, a war in which the enemy is trying to infiltrate our country, OUR President, strives and works to keep our borders uncontrolled and unprotected.

You'll get my vote this november Mr. President, but after that, I will be with Tancredo all the way.


5 posted on 09/27/2004 11:56:52 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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Mr. President, you swore an oath to the Constitution of the United States. In that constitution it states that you WILL protect the states against invasion. I suggest you sit down and read it, because after the election someone may just make sure a few federal judges and your attornies do.

A number of public entities have been party to what looks as if it might be collusion, to avoid enforcement of precepts of the Constitution, not to mention any number of civil penalties relating to employment practices across this nation. Where contributors might have benefited, this could get real sitcky.

Literally hundreds of federal officials have participated. Literally thousands of local district attornies, local city councils, police departments as well as the FBI have turned their back on this.

Flouting the Constiution of the United States of America, is a violation of someone's oath of office. I wonder who. Both the House and the Senate, the Executive Branch including the Justice Department, the INS, state and local governments have all participated in collusion to avoid adhering to one of the most sacred documents of our nation, shirking responsibility to the American public, in favor of the Government of a foreign nation and it's people.

This opens up so many cans of worms, that I shudder to think where it will end.

By your actions and the actions of others, you are taking money out of my pocket, out of my local, state and federal coffers to play Santa Claus to foreign nationals. You and thousands of others have banded together to desimate our healthcare system, our local schools, our local municipalities, our highway and other types of infrastructure and our standards of living.

I'm curious just how long you thought you could get away with this, without someone calling you on it.


7 posted on 09/28/2004 12:03:13 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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Specifically how would you secure the Mexican border?

There is no public mandate now for something violent and extreme, like a wall or land mines. Too many innocent people will be killed or hurt.

Probably the only thing that would create the public mandate is a squad of terrorists coming to the usa via the porous border, and causing a whole lot of damage to the USA. Then people will see it is a national security issue, and not an immigration issue.

Until then, since we can't possibly police thousands of miles of border by using men, and there is no overhwlming public sentiment to blow little mexican families rushing the border to bits, what can we really do but wait it out.

Sad but true.


9 posted on 09/28/2004 12:05:49 AM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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I don't understand why a wall, sort of like the iron curtain except taller, can't be constructed to keep them out. There must be some design that is impervious to ladders and such. All you'd need is guard tower every mile or so with either cameras or men with night vision capabilities.


10 posted on 09/28/2004 12:06:31 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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"If you can make 50 cents in the interior of Mexico and five bucks in the interior of the United States, you're coming for the five bucks," he explained.

Not to mention ten times the welfare benefits.

11 posted on 09/28/2004 12:08:13 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal Creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it.)
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[ Bush: Militarizing Border Won't Stop Illegal Deluge ]

Maybe not but fineing toward seizeing the business of anyone employing or renting to an illegal alien knowingly.. WILL...

13 posted on 09/28/2004 12:12:57 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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"If you can make 50 cents in the interior of Mexico and five bucks in the interior of the United States, you're coming for the five bucks," he explained.

Yes, the old adage holds true. "It's tough being at the top".

Look at the bright side, they aren't coming here to relish in the returns of our 3rd world economy....

NAFTA does have it's good talking points to be sure.

15 posted on 09/28/2004 12:19:04 AM PDT by EGPWS
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What do prisons do to keep criminals in? A couple of fences, one slightly shorter than the other running parralel spaced around 5 ft apart. Razor wire looped oround both fence tops. BUT.. Go one step further-- Electrically charge the fences.. Like one big bug zapper (space fences slightly closer).


16 posted on 09/28/2004 12:19:11 AM PDT by SealSeven
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what a joke --- How can you have a war on terrorism, with multi colored flags flying, and billions of dollars being spent everywhere.. and have an open border anyone can just run across with bombs and weapons..?




23 posted on 09/28/2004 12:44:28 AM PDT by jd777
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All I want is results in the domestic War on Terror...right now, that's what we should all want and demand.


26 posted on 09/28/2004 12:49:21 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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"There is a long border, that makes it hard to control. We have beefed up places along the border to try to stop" the flow, he said. When told that his policy didn't seem to be working, Bush insisted, "It’s working a little better.

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I'd be laughing, if I weren't crying...


28 posted on 09/28/2004 12:52:06 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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I agree...Bush is really not getting the picture on this issue.

Red

29 posted on 09/28/2004 12:52:39 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (With Rather doing all this backpedaling...he should be wearing pedal pushers.)
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George Bush:
Upbeat on Iraq
Defeatist on our borders.


40 posted on 09/28/2004 1:15:42 AM PDT by dennisw (Gd is against Amelek for all generations.)
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Build a wall.


46 posted on 09/28/2004 1:32:14 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Kerry/Edwards--When you're full of it you need two johns.)
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Bush: Militarizing Border Won't Stop Illegal Deluge

Oh, let's not be negative. Let's try.

And while we're at it, turn any employer that knowingly hires an illegal over to the Navy for a keel-hauling.

I should think that being keel-hauled under a missile frigate or larger would minimize the number of repeat offenders. (Wicked grin!)

53 posted on 09/28/2004 1:45:52 AM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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Why would W *legitimize* the O'Really scumbag RINO, by even giving him an interview, illegal immigration question aside? O'Really is a left-leaning, moderate, quasi-GOPer, liberal-demokkkRAT-lover, incoherent buttboy. Sorry turn of events, IMO, W.


55 posted on 09/28/2004 1:54:32 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • veni • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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...The U.S. has no plans to deploy troops along the Mexican border to stanch the deluge of illegal aliens currently pouring into the country at the rate of 3 million per year, President Bush said in an interview broadcast on Monday...


And I have no plans to vote for this meathead.


56 posted on 09/28/2004 2:36:26 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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Because of his stance on this subject my support of the President is not enthusiastic. I vote for him solely because of the lack of a decent alternative. The National Media ignore this topic. We need a candidate who will feature this subject in his or her platform, but don't hold your breath. There is no relief in sight. The likely candidates in 2008, Jeb Bush and Hillary both have their heads in the sand and their butts in the air on the issue of illegal immigration. My vote is available to any realistic alternative to these two. I am glad that O'Reilly at least brushed this topic.


57 posted on 09/28/2004 3:11:56 AM PDT by Focused Fury
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