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Bush: Militarizing Border Won't Stop Illegal Deluge
Newsmax.com ^ | Monday, Sept. 27, 2004 11:07 p.m. EDT

Posted on 09/27/2004 11:40:43 PM PDT by Robert Lomax

The U.S. has no plans to deploy troops along the Mexican border to stanch the deluge of illegal aliens currently pouring into the country at the rate of 3 million per year, President Bush said in an interview broadcast on Monday.

"As the governor of Texas, I was very aware of this issue," Bush told Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly.

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"There is a long border, that makes it hard to control. We have beefed up places along the border to try to stop" the flow, he said. When told that his policy didn't seem to be working, Bush insisted, "It’s working a little better.

"They're doing a pretty good job down in Arizona, which is the main border crossing. ... I think there's a thousand more border patrol agents along the border. We’re modernizing border techniques, we’re using better surveillance methods to stop this crossing at the border."

The president contended, however, that illegal immigration was driven primarily by the economic realities of the region.

"If you can make 50 cents in the interior of Mexico and five bucks in the interior of the United States, you're coming for the five bucks," he explained.

"I happen to believe the best way to enhance the border is to have temporary-worker cards available for people," he said. "I think the long-term solution for this issue on our border is for Mexico to grow a middle class. That's why I believe in NAFTA."

When warned that "a lot of people are not going to like that answer," Bush told O'Reilly, "Well it’s a, a truthful answer."


TOPICS: Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bush; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; issues; spottheretread; terrorism
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To: ApesForEvolution

Thanks for the advice.


461 posted on 09/28/2004 4:18:40 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Robert Lomax
This is why i'm not voting for him.

It would be an act of Treason to support anyone advocating this position.

462 posted on 09/28/2004 4:20:06 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: radicalamericannationalist
I will repeat.

The Democrats, and their border wedgie operatives on FR, didn't give a hoot about the "Al Qaida" threat coming across the border issue until the "Mexican" threat coming across the border issue was shown to have no traction whatsoever.

Let me know if you need a clearer take.

463 posted on 09/28/2004 4:22:15 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Jim Robinson
I believe there is a difference between employee records and for example a personal diary. As long as the police agency obtains a warrant then I have no problem with them investigating an employers records concerning that employers employment practices. This is already law that passed through congress and was signed by President Reagan.

As for the 4th amendment of much more concern to me is these "no knock warrants" that allow armed men to kick in my door in the middle of the night. The abuses of the no knock warrant are many and documented.

There was a case in my state not long ago, where a man shot and killed a police officer who was part of a swat team serving a no knock warrant, and was himself shot by the police.

He was found guilty of murder, which I believe is wrong. If someone kicks in the door while you are sleeping without giving you a chance to even wake up then they are criminals.

It is also documented fact that home invasion robbers have yelled police and some even wear jackets with police on them when breaking into occupied homes.

Yet our supreme court has upheld the validity of no knock warrants.

I tell you of the two, I'd rather go after getting rid of no knock warrants before getting rid of showing proof of citizenship.

464 posted on 09/28/2004 4:22:41 PM PDT by Klickitat
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To: HitmanNY
Any Freeper who thinks there is a public mandate has a problem evaluating the political landscape.

Perhaps. But chew on this: Brit Hume interviewed the President 6 or more months ago. Brit, in asking his question, said to the President on-air that the bulk of the emails concerning what to ask the President was on border security and immigration policy. The President gave his familiar answer of increasing resources for the BP and matching willing workers with willing employers.

Polls consistently show 65%-75% of Americans, especially including naturalized Latinos, do not favor illegal immigration. I seriously doubt that, if concrete [pun] measures are proposed to physically deal with the border crashers, many of those respondees will sunddenly do a Kerry 180 and say "OK, I change my mind. Don't do anything effective that will make me look bad." This 65%-75% cares what Chirac might say? No way.

BTW, HitmanNY, what's the going rate these days? Or am I talking to A-Rod?

465 posted on 09/28/2004 4:22:54 PM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo for President/Jeff Flake VP 2004!)
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To: Barlowmaker

"Authorities said al Qaeda terrorists hope to take advantage of a lack of detention space within the Department of Homeland Security that has forced immigration officials to release non-Mexican illegal aliens back into the United States, rather than return them to their home countries.
Less than 15 percent of those released appear for immigration hearings. Nearly 60,000 illegal aliens designated as other-than-Mexican, or OTMs, were detained last year along the U.S.-Mexico border.
El Shukrijumah, born in Saudi Arabia but thought to be a Yemen national, was spotted in Tegucigalpa, Honduras, in July, having crossed the border illegally from Nicaragua after a stay in Panama. U.S. authorities said al Qaeda operatives have been in Tegucigalpa planning attacks against British, Spanish and U.S. embassies."


466 posted on 09/28/2004 4:23:21 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: Klickitat
The thing that amazes me is that 2/3 of Democrats and independents support enforcement. This is a case where doing the right thing is the politically expedient thing to do.
467 posted on 09/28/2004 4:26:29 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: Klickitat

Employee records are private information. It's none of the government's business.

I'm 100% opposed to no knock warrants. I'm also 100% opposed to immigration raids on employers and opposed to IRS raids and asset confiscations. All for the exact same reasons. They are unconstitutional gestapo practices.


468 posted on 09/28/2004 4:28:19 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Stu Cohen
It would be an act of Treason to support anyone advocating this position.

Koo ... keee.

469 posted on 09/28/2004 4:29:11 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Jim Robinson

Well then do you have a suggestion for how to deal with our estimated 13 million illegal aliens? Should we amnesty them?


470 posted on 09/28/2004 4:29:40 PM PDT by Klickitat
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To: Stu Cohen
But sKerry is worse. And I shudder to think of him appointing 2-4 folks to SCOTUS. I was debating about not voting for W but I think the better strategy is get him in and make sure Congress does something. Then work dang hard until 2008 to get sense back into the party.
471 posted on 09/28/2004 4:29:44 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Wow. You sure are worried about islamofascists coming across the border.

There is no doubt in my mind, if we look back 12 months, you'd be just as concerned.

BWA HA HA. HA.

You "Ape" the RAT talking points.


472 posted on 09/28/2004 4:31:46 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: citizen
Write-in Tom Tancredo for President/Jeff Flake VP 2004!)

Are they experienced islamofascist killers?

473 posted on 09/28/2004 4:32:23 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Ask not what you can do for your country, ask the country what it will do for you!)
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To: Barlowmaker

Yeah, me and the Washington Times, shilling for sKerry...you are a basket of hopelessness on this issue...have a good night and I ask no more posting from you. Thank you in advance.


474 posted on 09/28/2004 4:37:10 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: Barlowmaker
Your point of view is clear. Clearly wrong. I was looking around FR for a long before joining up. I saw plenty of folks worrying about this. you might have just been willingly blind.

And as to your snide insinuation that everyone wanting tightening of borders just don;t like the brown skins, read Samuel Huntington's Who Are We or Victor Davis Hanson's Mexifornia. This current wave of immigration is like nothing we have experienced before because of geographic and cultural (both Hispanic and American) factors.

Of course, I realize that the survival of the U.S. is not as important to some as cheap labor sources. see, I can be snide too. I'm just more up front about it.
475 posted on 09/28/2004 4:37:52 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: ApesForEvolution
have a good night and I ask no more posting from you. Thank you in advance

You lose again.

476 posted on 09/28/2004 4:38:37 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Barlowmaker

2nd request MARKER


477 posted on 09/28/2004 4:39:30 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: Jim Robinson

And I'd like to add I agree with you on asset seizure. There is no excuse for seizing business assets, it's just another inducement to corruption.


478 posted on 09/28/2004 4:39:37 PM PDT by Klickitat
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To: radicalamericannationalist

Millard Fillmore and the KnowNothings hated the Irish and Italians.

That didn't work either.

God bless America.


479 posted on 09/28/2004 4:40:12 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: ApesForEvolution

Bump


480 posted on 09/28/2004 4:40:50 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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