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Have just found out a "group home" is in my neighborhood.

Posted on 09/24/2004 10:17:55 PM PDT by OldBlondBabe

I found out over the summer that a house on my street (just a handful of houses away) is now a "group home". According to another neighbor the residents are "highly to moderately trainable adults". Supposedly there is one adult supervisor there for about every 4-5 residents.

There has already been at least one incident; one of the residents was off his meds, flopping around on the neighbors pool cover and wouldn't leave. I've just recently found out that one of the residents is on the Public Sex Offender Registry---his offense, criminal sexual conduct- third degree (multi variables.)

I live in an affluent suburb of Detroit, in Oakland County. The homes here average around $300,000...it's a nice area.

I'm looking for advice and guidance. I have kids,one of which is a 13-year old girl. Thanks in advance for your help and direction.


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To: OldBlondBabe
I hope your state has a law that requires the neighborhood to be notified when a registered sex offender move in. That should provide the name of the individual. If you can get that name, you can obtain the court records about his conviction, a mug shot, etc. If the offender was developmentally disabled, the courts may have have appointed a legal guardian who can provide additional information.

If your state has a neighborhood notification law, but it was not obeyed, the offender could be removed and incarcerated for that violation.

181 posted on 09/25/2004 2:13:56 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: Old Professer
people cluster by culture

Yes,. . . . . . . . . . . that is what my neighbors and I are afraid of.

There is something unnerving about living around people who don't have enough sense not to stand in the middle of a four lane road at night. I guess when a few get run over they MAY learn.

182 posted on 09/25/2004 2:21:45 PM PDT by Nov3 (They knifed babies, They raped girls, They forced children to drink their own urine)
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To: wattsmag2

I have no problem with locking them up. I do however have a huge problem with simply trying to get a halfway house out of particular neighborhood.


183 posted on 09/25/2004 2:48:42 PM PDT by Melas
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To: QuodErat

What are the chances of anyone buying it?


184 posted on 09/25/2004 2:49:11 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Jeff Chandler
Just great, the sex offender is probably molesting the mentally retarded people, like it wasn't tough enough for them to get along in society already.
185 posted on 09/25/2004 2:52:18 PM PDT by Lockbar (Worried about lead poisoning? Then stop eating the paint chips, Dummy!)
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To: Melas

I have a no problem with group homes for people who have never done anything but be born different. I do have a problem with halfway houses for criminals in ANY neighborhood.


187 posted on 09/25/2004 6:34:16 PM PDT by wattsmag2
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To: Sofa King

No, I didn't. The original post is full of innuendo and gossip. 'Recently found out' may be as a result of additional neighborhood gossip which often serves to mobilize neighbors to oppose group homes they know nothing about.

I do not believe the poster said anything to the effect that she had herself actually CHECKED the 'sexual abuse registry.'

The entire point of my post was to oppose stigma, and to caution that people should check FACTS about group homes and about people with disabilities before jumping to unjust conclusions regarding the people residing therein.

Common sense, and current practice, would dictate that a KNOWN sexual offender would not be placed carelessly in a group home among vulnerable people. Nor would a company providing residential services (there are many) accept that sort of liability.


188 posted on 09/25/2004 11:00:22 PM PDT by ZOTnot (first "LADY?" (Theresa: 'Idiots', 'Shove it', 'Scumbags'). [I'll stick with Laura,please!])
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To: Conservative4Ever
I just don't understand why you have to be so negative to me."

May if you hadn't said this...

if your rant weren't so stupidly ignorant..it would be laughable

189 posted on 09/26/2004 12:37:15 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Casloy

Sorry, but I don't see anything at all with being concerned about losing value on a $300,000.00 home.


190 posted on 09/26/2004 12:46:16 AM PDT by CalRepublican
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To: ZOTnot

Let's see, one of the people in the home apparently already has trespassed on to a neighbor's property and mess around with the the owner's property.

Good thing for the property owner the guy didn't drown in the pool--he'd have probably been sued.

Now she finds out that this apparently less than perfectly supervised home is home to a sex offender. Let's home the chaperones keep a closer eye on him.

This woman's post hardly sounded like some sort of deranged, hateful rant. This woman has every right to be concerned about not only one of the home's residents coming on to her property and hurting themselves, then suing her; she has every right to be concerned about her children. The folks operating the home had better be prepared to answer questions about what they are doing to keep their neighbors safe.


191 posted on 09/26/2004 12:50:38 AM PDT by CalRepublican
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To: ZOTnot
There has already been at least one incident; one of the residents was off his meds, flopping around on the neighbors pool cover and wouldn't leave. That's not innuendo. It's not gossip. It's a description of one of the home's residents trespassing on to someone's property and refusing to leave. After an incident like that, I'd say the neighbors aren't overreacting by showing some concern about who else might be inside that home and how carefully they are being supervized. She has a right to be concerned that someone in that home not trespass on her own property and hurt her family or themselves. At a minimum, I'd think the folks running the home would want to hold a Q & A with their neighbors after that incident to assure their neighbors it wouldn't happen again and to quell rumors that a similarly unsupervized sex offender lived 50 yards away.
192 posted on 09/26/2004 12:55:58 AM PDT by CalRepublican
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To: CalRepublican

Because what it suggests it you want the place moved to a less pricey neighborhood. It's not about losing value on a 300K home, it's about losing value on your home, period. People with 60K homes who are on the lower end of the income brackets deserve the same ability to control what kind of group homes are put in their neighborhood as do people in the upper brackets. I kow that isn't what the poster was saying, but that's how civil servants who placed the group home there will try and twist it.


193 posted on 09/26/2004 12:57:41 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: Casloy

First off, a $300,000 home is going to lose a lot more in value than a $60,000 home.

Second off, where else they might place this home is not the original poster's concern. They can place it anywhere--just not across the street from a home she and her husband have worked hard to buy.


194 posted on 09/26/2004 1:01:07 AM PDT by CalRepublican
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To: OldBlondBabe

Move?? j/k....If you can't do anything about them living there, I would just inform your kids about them and keep a close eye on your kids.


195 posted on 09/26/2004 1:04:04 AM PDT by katdawg
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To: Aracelis

Do you and Lazamataz need to get a room? LOL


196 posted on 09/26/2004 1:34:50 AM PDT by katdawg
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To: CalRepublican
First off, a $300,000 home is going to lose a lot more in value than a $60,000 home.

Do you think the guy working his ass off in a blue collar job to pay for that 60,000 dollar home is going to take any comfort from that? His loss of 5 thousand is as painful as the 30 thousand dollar loss is to the guy that owns the 300,000 dollar home.

Second off, where else they might place this home is not the original poster's concern. They can place it anywhere--just not across the street from a home she and her husband have worked hard to buy.

I agree, and if that is the case the value of the homes in the neighborhood is irrelevant. The guy with the 60K home across the street has the same valid argument whether his home is expensive or modest.

197 posted on 09/26/2004 3:01:29 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: katdawg; Lazamataz
Do you and Lazamataz need to get a room? LOL

Sorry, my plate is full...but ain't he cute? ;)

198 posted on 09/26/2004 4:20:47 AM PDT by Aracelis
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To: Boxcar

You only have to tell if you are aware of it. If you are unaware, I'm not sure you can be held liable.


199 posted on 09/26/2004 4:24:35 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: radicalamericannationalist

yeah, are you up for the challenge?


200 posted on 09/26/2004 4:25:30 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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