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Who favors bringing back the draft?
Jewish World Review ^ | 9/24/04 | Jack Kelly

Posted on 09/24/2004 5:11:35 AM PDT by pookie18

Two recent polls indicate the presidential race has tightened again to within the margin of error. John Kerry made it clear that this isn't true in a speech in Florida Sept. 22nd.

In response to a question after a speech in West Palm Beach, Kerry said President Bush might bring back the military draft if he is re-elected. This has become a meme among Democrats.

"There will be no draft when John Kerry is president," said vice presidential candidate John Edwards.

"America will reinstate the military draft" if Bush is re-elected, said former Sen. Max Cleland, a Kerry surrogate, in a speech at Colorado College. "I think that George Bush is certainly going to have a draft if he goes into a second term, and any young person who doesn't go to Iraq might think twice about voting for him," said former Kerry rival Howard Dean at a speech at Brown University in Rhode Island.

(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...


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KEYWORDS: draft; selectiveservice
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1 posted on 09/24/2004 5:11:36 AM PDT by pookie18
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To: pookie18
CHARLEY RANGEL!
2 posted on 09/24/2004 5:12:21 AM PDT by mattdono (Chris Matthew is Zell Miller's b*tch! (and the MSM is FR's b*tch!))
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To: mattdono

The Democrats have lately been suggesting that President Bush is secretly planning to bring back the draft. They're half right--there is a plan to bring back the draft, but President Bush has nothing to do with it. It's a Democrat plot to kill support for the war.

Want proof? Go here. Enter in "HR 163" and click on Universal Service Act of 2003.

There you will see the bill and its sponsors. They are:

Mr. RANGEL (for himself, Mr. MCDERMOTT, Mr. CONYERS, Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Mr. STARK, and Mr. ABERCROMBIE) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services These gentlemen have a couple of things in common. First, they're all Democrats. Second, none of them supports any aspect of the war on terrorism.

So why would a group of hard left Democrats, a group that includes Saddam apologist Rep. Jim McDermott, introduce a bill to re-instate the draft? Why would a group of Congressmen who don't support the war and denounce the United States every chance they get be interested in this bill?


3 posted on 09/24/2004 5:13:13 AM PDT by Area51 (Diapers and Politicians need to be changed-For the same reason)
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To: pookie18

You know, talk about playing on people's fears. This is ridiculous. Charley Rangel was the person that brought this up! Don Rumsfeld has made it abundantly clear that there is NOT going to be a draft, PERIOD!


4 posted on 09/24/2004 5:13:58 AM PDT by mattdono (Chris Matthew is Zell Miller's b*tch! (and the MSM is FR's b*tch!))
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To: Area51

BTW-the above text is from a website I found earlier in the week, but forgot to save the link.


5 posted on 09/24/2004 5:14:30 AM PDT by Area51 (Diapers and Politicians need to be changed-For the same reason)
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To: Area51

"So why would a group of hard left Democrats, a group that includes Saddam apologist Rep. Jim McDermott, introduce a bill to re-instate the draft? Why would a group of Congressmen who don't support the war and denounce the United States every chance they get be interested in this bill?"

Oil for food maybe?


6 posted on 09/24/2004 5:15:13 AM PDT by Tweaker
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To: pookie18
The media went ballistic when Dick Cheney made his comment about the country being in more danger from terrorism if Kerry is elected. It is interesting that they have no concern about this unsubstantiated, inflammatory remark from Max Cleland.
7 posted on 09/24/2004 5:20:38 AM PDT by mgpilot
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To: mattdono
CHARLEY RANGEL!

I wish that Rush would focus on Charley's bill to re-instate the draft!! Hannity mentioned it in passing yesterday, but this would just blow the Dem's ad trying to scare people, right out of the water!!!

8 posted on 09/24/2004 5:21:41 AM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: pookie18

John Kerry, aka Kaptain Ketchup, is a damned lying political whore.


9 posted on 09/24/2004 5:39:36 AM PDT by punster
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To: pollywog

Personally, I'm in favor of a draft. I believe that the sacrifice should be shared by ALL who enjoy the benefits of living in this great country.


10 posted on 09/24/2004 5:42:28 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: pookie18

Go to website to read in entirety:


Draft Fears Fueled by Inaccurate E-mails
A scare story spreads electronically, but it gets facts wrong.
June 15, 2004
http://www.factcheck.org/printerFriendly.aspx?docid=200
Modified:June 15, 2004
Summary
Several FactCheck subscribers have asked about an e-mailed rumor that is causing a lot of anxiety. It claims that steps are being taken to resume military conscription next year. But the message abounds with misinformation and half-truths. And some experts say conscription is the last thing the military wants or needs, despite being stretched thin in Iraq.
Analysis

We can't say whether this one is deliberate misinformation or just sloppy reporting, but it sure is generating a lot of needless anxiety. It amounts to another "lying e-mail" of the kind we've warned about before (check the links to "related articles" at the end of this one.)


11 posted on 09/24/2004 5:43:00 AM PDT by Maria S
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Yesterday the Army Nat Guard said they were not able to fill their ranks for this month, falling 5000 men short.

This is the first time in ten years that this has happened.

It does not take a rocket scientist to see what lies ahead.

The dems see it and are using it for political purposes. The pubs as usual are burying their heads in the sand.

12 posted on 09/24/2004 5:46:49 AM PDT by cynicom (<p)
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It's very likely that we will see a draft of some kind. The Selective Service System admits as much:
In this uncertain climate, the SSS is working diligently to reexamine its statutory missions, reaffirming its relevancy, and making adjustments as necessary to meet the contemporary needs of the Nation. Several facts come to light. For example, while manpower officials believe it is unlikely that a conventional draft of untrained men will be needed in the foreseeable future, there exist critical shortages of individuals with special skills in today’s AVF. SSS officials consulted with Defense planners to learn that medical personnel, computer specialists, and linguists are difficult to recruit and hard to retain. There are also fears that the lengthy and repetitive activations of Guard and Reserve members will boost Reserve Component attrition rates. So a principal objective of PIP-2003 is to shift the Agency's focus away from maintaining a high state of readiness to execute a large draft of untrained manpower and toward preparing for a much smaller draft of trained personnel possessing critical skills needed for military service in a national crisis. Examining all factors, the smaller, "special skills" draft is the conscription program more likely to be needed by today's Armed Forces. Of course, reinstatement of a draft of any kind or scope would require legislation from the Congress and direction from the President.

To accomplish the shift in focus, the Agency does not have to start from scratch. For the last 16 years, the SSS has continued its work on a congressionally-directed "structure" to allow for conscription of doctors, nurses, and other medical personnel.

The result is called the "Health Care Personnel Delivery System," or "HCPDS," which is now nearly complete. It was patterned after the Agency's existing plan for a conventional draft of untrained men, but would differ in that it would require a mass registration of health care practitioners, ages 20 through 44, followed by selection of individuals for induction to fulfi ll the numbers and skill requirements the military would need. HCPDS could include women, if the Congress so authorized.

You can read the document for yourself in either PDF or HTML.

13 posted on 09/24/2004 5:52:34 AM PDT by sheltonmac ("Duty is ours; consequences are God's." -Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson)
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To: mattdono
Don Rumsfeld has made it abundantly clear that there is NOT going to be a draft, PERIOD!

Oh! Well, that settles it then. After all, if you can't trust a politician, who can you trust?

14 posted on 09/24/2004 5:52:47 AM PDT by sheltonmac ("Duty is ours; consequences are God's." -Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson)
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To: Area51

That and the fact tht Rangel wants to make sure everyone gets drafted this time, rich or poor, congressmen's kids, senators' kids.


15 posted on 09/24/2004 5:54:24 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: pookie18

Heaven help us if our brave volunteers have to suffer the company of the unwilling draftees.


16 posted on 09/24/2004 5:56:56 AM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: pookie18

Democrats, since they are the ones who solely sponsored the bill in the House.


17 posted on 09/24/2004 5:57:55 AM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: sheltonmac

When we begin trusting a politician just because he is a republican, we become no different from the democrats.


18 posted on 09/24/2004 5:58:19 AM PDT by cynicom (<p)
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To: OldFriend

Heaven help us if we keep recalling old vets who have already served their country because our younger generation don't have the stones to stand up when it is their time to serve.


19 posted on 09/24/2004 5:59:45 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: OldFriend

I assume that is sarcasm????


20 posted on 09/24/2004 5:59:50 AM PDT by cynicom (<p)
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