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Answer To CBS

Posted on 09/23/2004 3:16:36 AM PDT by kcvl

Answer To CBS

By Gordon Bloyer (09/21/04)

Dan Rather and CBS News has claimed that no one has rebutted their story that President Bush entered the Texas Air National Guard by using influence. They also claim that President Bush can’t prove he fulfilled his commitment in the Guard. Both of these claims are NONSENSE and LIES. The news media purposely avoid interviewing the people who know the truth. I have previously answered all the questions about President Bush's Guard service. Since then some new evidence has also emerged that refutes the CBS story.

CBS claims that President Bush bypassed several hundred men on a waiting list when he entered the Guard. FALSE. Three Guard officers have come forward to say that there was NO waiting list for pilots. It is up to CBS to prove that these officers are lying. Why can't CBS produce at least one man who says he was on a WAITING LIST to be a pilot and Bush bypassed him. THERE WAS NO WAITING LIST FOR PILOTS.

Col. Lively said this to E. D. Hill on Fox News:

E.D. Hill: ''One of the other claims is that President Bush, because of his connections, was able in essence to jump ahead of hundreds of applicants. Now, you were the head of the Texas Air National Guard at that time. Did a significant number of people meet the requirements for the physical, educational, and security needs to even apply for the specific position that President Bush took?''

Lively: ''No, well actually, I wasn't the head of the Air National Guard, but I was the head of operations. I was director of operations, and I oversaw and inspected all the units in Texas, flew with them, and the--there was no waiting list for this. See, this is often confused with another thing, which was a waiting list to simply enlist in the Guard and do your service there rather than the regular military, and there were lots of people on those waiting lists. but those people weren't qualified to go to pilot training school.

Col. Walter Staudt told ABC News the following:

Staudt told ABC that during his Guard service he never tried to influence Killian or other Guardsmen, adding that he also never came under pressure to accept Bush.

''No one called me about taking George Bush into the Air National Guard,'' he said. ''It was my decision. I swore him in. I never heard anything from anybody.'' Staudt told ABC he came forward because he saw erroneous reports on television. Bush did not use political influence to get into the Air National Guard, he asserted. ''I don't know how they would know that, because I was the one who did it and I was the one who was there, and I didn't talk to any of them.'' Staudt said he was in charge of deciding which pilots to accept.

Will CBS call Col. Staudt a liar? Col. Campenni has said the same thing on numerous occasions. Will CBS call him a liar? It is up to CBS to prove that Col. Staudt is lying.

As to charges that President Bush did not fulfill his duty, there are several publications that have compiled the points he earned during his enlistment, and they all come up with enough points to fulfill his service. It is up to CBS to prove that Bush did NOT get enough points to meet his commitment.

According to Byron York in “The Hill:”

After training, Bush kept flying, racking up hundreds of hours in F-102 jets. As he did, he accumulated points toward his National Guard service requirements. At the time, guardsmen were required to accumulate a minimum of 50 points to meet their yearly obligation. According to records released earlier this year, Bush earned 253 points in his first year, May 1968 to May 1969 (since he joined in May 1968, his service thereafter was measured on a May-to-May basis). Bush earned 340 points in 1969-1970. He earned 137 points in 1970-1971. And he earned 112 points in 1971-1972. The numbers indicate that in his first four years, Bush not only showed up, he showed up a lot.

So Bush stopped flying. From May 1972 to May 1973, he earned just 56 points-- not much, but enough to meet his requirement. Then, in 1973, as Bush made plans to leave the Guard and go to Harvard Business School, he again started showing up frequently. In June and July of 1973, he accumulated 56 points, enough to meet the minimum requirement for the 1973-1974 year. Then, at his request, he was given permission to go. Bush received an honorable discharge after serving five years, four months and five days of his original six-year commitment. By that time, however, he had accumulated enough points in each year to cover six years of service.

What evidence does CBS have that this is not true? It is up to CBS to PROVE that this is not true.

In addition to these facts, there are six people that have come forward to say they saw President Bush in Alabama. There are more and more facts that prove President Bush did NOT receive favorable treatment to get into the Guard and that he completed his service.

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Gordon Bloyer has been called a Renaissance man by Ronn Owens of KGO radio in San Francisco. Rush Limbaugh read from a letter by Gordon on his national radio show. President Ronald Reagan invited Gordon to the White House to thank him for his support. When Gordon speaks people listen. He has appeared on numerous radio and television shows. His letters and articles have been printed in many publications .

http://www.gordonbloyershow.com


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cbsnews; rathergate; tang

1 posted on 09/23/2004 3:16:36 AM PDT by kcvl
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http://www.gordonbloyershow.com


2 posted on 09/23/2004 3:17:49 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

CBS: All the news that fits our agenda.


3 posted on 09/23/2004 3:20:16 AM PDT by Samwise (Kerry's convoluted speaking style correlates with his convoluted thought processes.)
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To: Mo1; Howlin

Check this out...


4 posted on 09/23/2004 3:20:18 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
It is up to CBS to prove that Col. Staudt is lying.

Spoken like someone who does not understand the game.
It's not a court of law, with a judge deciding the admissibility of evidence.
If you repeat a lie enough times, some people will believe it.
CBS knows that, just like KerryCo.

5 posted on 09/23/2004 3:22:13 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: kcvl

Great post.
I'm emailing this to lotsa folks.
Thanks.


6 posted on 09/23/2004 3:23:24 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan (We childproofed our home, but they are still getting in)
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To: Tooters

PLEASE tell Gordon since he is the person who wrote it...


http://www.gordonbloyershow.com/feedback.htm


7 posted on 09/23/2004 3:26:49 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

bump


9 posted on 09/23/2004 3:34:32 AM PDT by Tom_Busch (Vote Bush/Cheney in 2004)
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To: kcvl

Joe Lockhart said he talked to Burkett to respond to the Swift Boats Vets.

This is what the JFKerry campaign came up with to respond to the Swift Boats Vets, go after President Bush. Now we know that CBS has said they had been working for 5 years on President Bush's TANG service.

I have read that Barnes was busy writing a book but he wanted more "something else" aside from his own work in order to do this "TIMED" interview.

There had to be a coordinated effort by CBS and the JFKerry campaign to pull this off. Obviously the "forged" documents were the key, and obviously they did not care if it became known they were forged. The objective was to take away the attention from the Swift Boats Vets and nothing else had worked.

JFKErry cannot sign that 180, he does not want to answer any direct question about his trips to Paris (he was still in the military), meeting with the enemy.

Also JFKerry and McCain never never ever brag about their work in normalizing relations with Vietnam a Communist nation under the Clintons. WHY????


10 posted on 09/23/2004 3:34:36 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: kcvl

"The Protocols of the Elders of CBS", fake but accurate.

Dan Rather's claim that Bush must defend himself against charges in fabricated documents is like saying that even if the Czarist "Protocols" are fake, they still accurately characterize Jews, since a lot of anti-Semites believe they do, therefore Jews must explain the charges in the "Protocols". In some dark corner of Hell, Joeseph Goebbels wipes away a tear.


11 posted on 09/23/2004 3:35:56 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Islam: Men defend most violently, not what they know to be true, but what they fear may be false.)
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To: kcvl

Bump


12 posted on 09/23/2004 3:41:31 AM PDT by BunnySlippers ("F" Stands for FLIP-FLOP ...)
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To: kcvl
"Dan Rather and CBS News has claimed that no one has rebutted their story that President Bush entered the Texas Air National Guard by using influence

CBS has not told a story but made an allegation. They then ask the President and his supporters to disprove this. The problem is one of logic. It is not logically possible to disprove a negative. The person making the allegation must affirm it with inductive reasoning and empirical evidence.

The RATS have been using this stratagem over and over again. Sometimes it is that the President is a liar and at other times it is that the President is stupid or some such thing. In all instances the negative conclusion is accepted as fact and you are supposed to disprove it.

13 posted on 09/23/2004 3:48:41 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: kcvl

bumping


14 posted on 09/23/2004 4:51:07 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: kcvl

Every time I watch Dan Rather, I see B.S.


15 posted on 09/23/2004 5:01:02 AM PDT by NoDough
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To: kcvl
Very nicely done ... notice that the same analysis is NOT applied to Kerry's service, the tail end of which is far from being well documented. There are several glaring questions in the few "official" documents that the Kerry campaign has provided. Note well that the documents came from the Kerry campaign and NOT the DoD and therefore must be considered with a healthy dose of skepticism in light of the CBS debacle. Only when Kerry signs the Form 180 will the truth be known.

To me, a key indicator that there are major problems with Kerry's service record is the propensity for the democRATs to engage in projection. The louder they scream about Bush's final years in the Guard, the more interested one should become in Kerry's final years of his commitment.

Finally, while this piece documents that the TANG had unfilled openings for someone who could meet the not insignificant qualifications for flight training, HOW EASY WAS IT TO GET INTO THE NAVAL RESERVE at that same time? Pilots were dropping like flies but the Navy was a safer service.

These are simple questions that a blogger in pajamas could rattle off in a few minutes. It is easy to note that the MSM is NOT asking these questions about Kerry's service. The silence in that regard is deafening and the people DO notice.

16 posted on 09/23/2004 5:22:25 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (You never know what you'll get when you troll through a newsroom with a phony document.)
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