Posted on 09/22/2004 12:54:03 PM PDT by areafiftyone
AS Usual the Democrats attack and are always one attack ahead of the GOP
GOP never learns
Of course he always fails to mention that both the House and Senate bills proposing to reinstate the draft have been put forth by Democrats.
http://www.neoperspectives.com/draft.htm
The Draft Myth
(This excerpt has been posted because of the increasing frequency of the Democratic strategy to fear-monger over the draft. Democratic Vice Presidential candidate John Edwards and other Democratic surrogates have now joined the chorus of email forwards and rumors. Democratic groups have even begun running ads on MTV targeting young people (1)!)
On January 7th 2003, African American Representative Charles Rangel (NY) and 14 other Democrats, sponsored legislation attempting to bring back the draft. Rangel said in a statement:
I truly believe that decision-makers who support war would more readily feel the pain of conflict and appreciate the sacrifice of those on the front lines if their children were there, too. I don't make too much of the fact that only four members of the 107th Congress, which voted overwhelmingly in favor of war with Iraq, had children in the military. (70)
This false statement is elaborated on further down. On the same day, Democratic Senator Fritz Collins (SC) introduced similar legislation in the Senate. (2) Republican Senator Chuck Hagel offered similar misleading comments of support for a draft. (3) Both the Senate and House bills have no chance of passing and have not been taken up by their respective committees.
In any case, despite it's origin, fear of the draft has been pushed by media reports and Democrats for political gain, often portraying either the Bush administration or Republicans as secretly driving the proposals and legislation. (69) Secretary Rumsfeld and all administration officials and Republican congressional leaders have all said there is no intention or need to bring back the draft as all services are fulfilling recruiting quotas and reenlistment. Moreover Secretary Rumsfeld has stated:
"We have in the active force about 1.4 million people. And in the Guard and the Reserve and if you include the Individual Ready Reserve, the people who are not training in ready units, we go up to somewhere over 2.3 million people." (65)
"The force is stressed and we’re only sustaining 200,000-plus in the Central Command region out of a total of 2 million. So the question is, well, why is that?" (65)
"We’ve got probably 300,000 military people who are engaged in tasks that could every bit as easily be conducted by civilians." (65)
Rumsfeld explained that the unionized civil servants were so unmanageable that military personal often had to be used. He said these problems were being addressed.
Asked about the draft Rumsfeld replied:
"....goodness no, we’re perfectly capable of increasing the incentives and the inducements to attract people into the armed services." (65)
It is also notable that the military, due to cutbacks in the first Bush and Clinton years, is about one-third smaller than the one that existed just 12 years ago in the Gulf war. For example, the army was cut from 18 to 10 divisions. (73)
People in Palm Beach County are easily misled...
President Bush should call for an immediate end to registration for the Selective Service, just as Reagan did in the 1980 Campaign. He should then point out that members of the Congressional Black Democratic Caucus are the ones who have introduced legislation reviving the draft.
Counter lies with facts.
The military and veterans hate Kerry.
Young people will not enlist if Kerry is president.
Bingo!
The chances of a draft with Kerry in the White House is much greater, especially when the terrorists start coming here.
Desperation alert. Kerry is in huge trouble and if all he can do is lie his way to the election then his internal numbers must be very bad.
Every military draft during the 20th Century was initiated under a Democrat President. Both bills adrift in the House and Senate were sponsored by the Democrats. He's getting desperate. The evidence suggests that if you elect Kerry, there WILL be a draft.
Kerry just gave us more ammunition to knock his a@@ out of the race. Wait for the debates. If President Bush has the gonads, he should ask where Kerry heard this, and then trash him good. Kerry is just giving us more to work him over.
This is kind of good news in my book. Next line is that Bush will take away your social security. This kind of stupid attacks tell me that Kerry is getting desparate.
I am a Board member of the Local Selective Service Board Here in Denver Colorado and I can tell you Unequivocally that this is not true. In fact the exact opposite is true. No funds currently available for training of Board Members nor will there be for the next year or so.
I had just received a letter from the National Board about a month or so ago that stated that "Contrary to published reports, NO re-activation of the Selective Service is planned or contemplated"..
Standard summary #4F:
Yes there are draft proposals, almost all Democrat,
such as HR 163, which is entirely Dem.
They have NOTHING to do with military manpower requirements.
As intended-to-fail proposals, they are straw men set up
so that Kerry+Edwards can promise to oppose them (even
though they probably support them - see below). When do
you need to worry about what Kerry's plans are on an
issue? When he takes a position, any position.
Bush already opposes draft proposals, but don't expect
the legacy media to tell you this. They also won't pass
either the House or the Senate, but Bush wouldn't sign
them if they did.
As serious proposals, "draft" revival proposals have
everything to do with Universal National Service -
stealing two years from every life, then 3, then 4,
and why stop there ...
And National Service has nothing to do with service.
It has everything to do with indoctrination of the slaves.
Which means that if the "progressives" ever get control
again, kiss your liberty goodbye.
From HR 163: "...or a period of civilian service in
furtherance of the national defense and homeland
security, and for other purposes."
"other purposes"
Surely this will come up at the debates. If one of the questionaers does not ask about it then Mr Bush should bring it up himself. Unless Kerry does first. Then GWB can blast him with the facts and put this issue to rest.
I question the timing of this.
Fits nicely with the see-BS -- Viacom -- MTV -- Soros push poll doesn't it.
Let's just assume this is true. SO WHAT! I can't think of anything better for this country and our overweight, bored, body-pierced youth than the draft.
www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=200
this is a better debunker.
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