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Motorcyclist cited for going 205 MPH (going faster than state patrol plane)
Wabasha AP ^ | 9/21/04 | AP

Posted on 09/21/2004 9:43:55 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe

WABASHA (AP) - With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a Stillwater motorcyclist hit the throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.

On Saturday afternoon, State Patrol pilot Al Loney was flying near Wabasha, in southeastern Minnesota on the Wisconsin border, watching two motorcyclists racing along U.S. Highway 61.

When one of the riders shot forward, Loney was ready with his stopwatch. He clicked it once when the motorcycle reached a white marker on the road and again a quarter-mile later. The watch read 4.39 seconds, which Loney calculated to be 205 mph.

"I was in total disbelief," Loney told the St. Paul Pioneer Press for Tuesday's editions. "I had to double-check my watch because in 27 years I'd never seen anything move that fast."

Several law enforcement sources told the newspaper that, although no official records are kept, it was probably the fastest ticket ever written in the state.

After about three-quarters of a mile, the biker slowed to about 100 mph and let the other cycle catch up. By then Loney had radioed ahead to another state trooper, who pulled the two over soon afterward.

The State Patrol officer arrested the faster rider, 20-year-old Stillwater resident Samuel Armstrong Tilley, for reckless driving, driving without a motorcycle license - and driving 140 miles per hour over the posted speed limit of 65 mph.

A search of speeding tickets written by state troopers, who patrol most of the state's highways, between 1990 and February 2004 shows the next fastest ticket was for 150 mph in 1994 in Lake of the Woods County.

Tilley did not return calls from the newspaper to his home Monday. A working number for him could not immediately be found by The Associated Press on Tuesday.

Only a handful of exotic sports cars can reach 200 mph, but many high-performance motorcycles can top 175 mph. With minor modifications, they can hit 200 mph. Tilley was riding a Honda 1000, Loney said.

Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.

"I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you crashed at 200 miles per hour," Swanson said. "But it wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure."

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To: MarkL

There was a thread on FR a few years back about a story (complete with pictures) where the rider of the motorcycle was doing approximately 150 mph in a 35 zone, while pulling a wheelie.... and he basically cut the car that turned out in front of him in two. Was a pretty interesting thread :)


221 posted on 09/21/2004 12:15:03 PM PDT by kjam22 (What you win them by, is what you win them to)
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To: MarkL

Nice bike. Mine was a 91 900ss...with a BCM built 980 kit. Pankle titanium rods....Falicon lightened, welded and knife edged crank, V2 cams, hand made intakes, one downdraft and one side draft...$4000.00 of headwork...Marchesini wheels, Ackapovic (skorpion) full spagetti exhaust....race tech front end (I tried lindenmen, but was unimpressed)...I could go on and on....I'm a freakin' MORON for selling that bike.

My ex bike is in Cali now.....WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
I miss her!


222 posted on 09/21/2004 12:15:34 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
It's not a horsepower problem, but a suspension problem to keep the rubber on the road.

Actually suspensions have gotten pretty good. The limiting factor is now the tires. Centrifugal force, tangent forward thrust vectors and heat are tire exploders.

223 posted on 09/21/2004 12:15:43 PM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: kjam22

What I'm getting at is this... (just numbers straight out of the air)

if 100hp will get you a top speed of 100mph then, due to aerodynamics, it will take much more than 200hp to get you to 200mph... do you know what I'm getting at?


224 posted on 09/21/2004 12:15:47 PM PDT by CanadianRepublican
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To: elbucko

"I have MY motorcycle, and have since '68. I'm a "conservative";, ya know."

Well a few of us Conservatives have made it past 1968 technology, or did you snail-mail this in?


225 posted on 09/21/2004 12:15:50 PM PDT by Clean_Sweep
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To: Doctor Stochastic
"Note that the wind resistance gets proportional to V**3 in this range. It's not a horsepower problem, but a suspension problem to keep the rubber on the road. (Not to mention, how does one steer or brake.)"

It's still v2 at only ~300 ft/sec. It's a hp problem. The engine has to move that mass of air aside. The bike here was probably an 1100 with ~170 hp. Given the same aerodynamics, it would have to have >200hp to go as this article claims. The suspensions are fine. Even with the washboard in the road at that speed, the suspension keeps up. It's easy to steer and this guy would have had to in order to come any where close to that speed. The bike is also equipped with a steering damper to damp precession caused by those bumps in the road. The brakes are excellent and are capable of knocking off that speed easily.

226 posted on 09/21/2004 12:16:42 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: MarkL

oh yea...I went down to a 37 tooth rear sprocket and it would do HONKIN" 3rd gear throttle wheelies!

God, that bike was sex on wheels!


227 posted on 09/21/2004 12:17:30 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: CanadianRepublican
Yes I know what you mean. Here's your curve:


228 posted on 09/21/2004 12:18:19 PM PDT by kjam22 (What you win them by, is what you win them to)
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To: elbucko
Not possible. It takes a lot more horsepower to push a motorcycle through the air at 205mph, than a street able Honda 1000 owned by a 20 year can put out. Loney should put down the donut and and pay attention to what he's doing.

Well, a box-stock Honda CBR1000RR was tested by Motorcyclist Magazine, who declared it the fastest, most powerful factory bike they've ever tested. It showed just shy of 154HP at the rear wheel, and again, that's factory stock. At right about 400 pounds, that's scary fast.

Mark

229 posted on 09/21/2004 12:18:49 PM PDT by MarkL (Dude!!! You're farting fire!!!!)
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To: Lijahsbubbe

"Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers wear, he was courting death at 200 mph. "

Uh... Riding 200 mph on public roads is courting death. No protective gear is going to help at that speed.


230 posted on 09/21/2004 12:19:19 PM PDT by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: archy

You've persuaded me. I'm heading out this afternoon to buy a nice, used tank.


231 posted on 09/21/2004 12:21:03 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: mombonn

Any crash over 75 is considered not survivable. Granted it is possible to survive that, but it would not be expected.


232 posted on 09/21/2004 12:22:47 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: paul51

I had that happen. Just tell them your only planning on being on the road for 1/2 hour...


233 posted on 09/21/2004 12:22:48 PM PDT by Axenolith (This space for rent.)
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To: Melas

Actually the Hayabusa's engine is unchanged since it was introduced and has actually been electronically limited to 185 mph since then. Nothing faster has been introduced since.


234 posted on 09/21/2004 12:23:13 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: elbucko

"Cal Rayburn rode a single engine Harley Sportster streamliner to a speed of over 265mph in the early '70's at Bonneville Salt Flats. I've got a hundred dollar bill that says its true. Put your money where your mouth is!"

A remarkable achievement, to be sure (I have looked it up previously), but when was the last time you saw one of those on the road?


235 posted on 09/21/2004 12:24:09 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: -YYZ-
Also you should check the fatality rates these days for returning bikes (RUBies) on big cruisers -

I'm not a RUBie. I've been riding since I was 14. When I was 18, I did flat track at Ascot Raceway on a popper 500 BSA. Don't shove your sterotypes up my nose.

236 posted on 09/21/2004 12:25:03 PM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: taxed2death

You're such a purist. But at least MV Agusta made out from the whole 999 fiasco. Have you seen the F4 1000...SCHWEET!


237 posted on 09/21/2004 12:25:05 PM PDT by Keme (Bush Contra Mundum)
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To: -YYZ-

I was actually talking about the Honda engine, which is indeed revamped for 2004.


238 posted on 09/21/2004 12:27:02 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Clean_Sweep
Well a few of us Conservatives have made it past 1968 technology,

How nice for you.

239 posted on 09/21/2004 12:27:02 PM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: RightWhale

I'm a lucky dude then, having walked away from most of my "over100 mph" crashes.
I've never suffered anything more than broken ribs and a broken foot.

God is smiling on me!


240 posted on 09/21/2004 12:27:33 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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