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September showdown in the Bronx : Red Sox vs. Yankees (Live Thread)
NY Daily News ^ | September 17, 2004 | Mike Lupica

Posted on 09/17/2004 8:27:59 AM PDT by presidio9

This is the kind of September we are supposed to have with the Yankees and the Red Sox. This is the way it is supposed to be, a series like this at the Stadium this weekend, then another one next weekend at Fenway Park. It wasn't supposed to be as easy as the Red Sox made it look in April. It wasn't supposed to be the kind of knockout punch the Yankees threw at Boston at the end of June, that three-game series when Derek Jeter, in addition to everything else, seemed to have taught himself how to fly.

It wasn't supposed to be the Yankees ahead by 10-1/2 games in August, as giddy as that made everybody around here feel, when the Red Sox were declared dead, and gone, again.

This, tonight at the Stadium, is the way it is supposed to be:

El Duque Hernandez with the ball in the top of the first tonight, trying to kick his leg to the upper deck and duck his head behind his shoulder and throw one of those breaking balls that starts out by Ruppert Place past Johnny Damon of the Red Sox.

Maybe last year isn't as good as the Yankees vs. the Red Sox could ever be. Because after everything that has happened between Game 7 last October and now, the sides are still even.

"A showdown in the Bronx," is the way Damon described this series the other night.

It is all of that.

It is not the kind of all-in, knockout baseball it used to be in the old days, the way it was in September of 1978, when it was the Yankees trying to come from way back in the pack. Barring a total collapse by the Red Sox - and it is hard to see them collapsing after the kind of good, clean hardball they have played lately - you can almost book both teams making the playoffs.

So no matter which of these two teams wins the American League East, it looks as if we will be right where we were a year ago after the regular season, hoping to get both of them through the first round, and into another series with a trip to the World Series on the line. Where it will be all-in, knockout baseball. Where everything could come down to one swing of the bat, the way it did with Aaron Boone, on the night when he finally ended the greatest Yankee-Red Sox season of them all.

But you have to know this: The Yankees don't want to blow the biggest regular-season lead they have ever blown. The Yankees do not want the Red Sox to come back from 10-1/2 behind on the 15th of August to win the AL East, whether they know they've got the safety net of the wild card or not. Because in their minds, they would be carried into October on a stretcher.

For now, we get these six games, starting with the ball in El Duque's hand tonight. Where would the Yankees be without him? Second place, is where. The big fat lead would be gone already. Alex Rodriguez was supposed to be the difference between the Yankees and the Red Sox this season. We've got him, Yankee fans crowed. They don't. That was the first time the season was declared over, back in February, when it was announced that the Yankees had made a deal with the Rangers for A-Rod.

Only he has not been the difference. Somehow, even as he has hung up fairly gaudy numbers, even with the richest contract in the history of sports, A-Rod has just been one of the stars on the Yankees this season. Just not the biggest. The Yankees are still ahead because Gary Sheffield has been the kind of batting star A-Rod was supposed to be. And because El Duque, with all his spin and mystery intact at whatever age he really is, remains one of the great big-game Yankee pitchers of them all.

Now he gets the biggest game he has had in a while, at least until he gets to the playoffs.

"[The Red Sox] are still trying to catch us," Derek Jeter said.

Only for about 900 years.

But for now, the two teams are as close as they could be. In the last two seasons, counting the 2003 postseason, the Yankees and Red Sox have played 39 games. Thirty-nine. The Red Sox have won 20 and the Yankees have won 19. All those games, and really only one swing from Boone separating them.

The Red Sox don't go away. They made their run and now the Yankees have won eight of their last 10. There is a great wild-card race in the National League East. But this is something different. This is the Yankees against the Red Sox. The season started with all those games between them in April. Now here we are again, 11 months, exactly, from Aaron Boone.

Curt Schilling is with the Red Sox now, Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte are gone from the Yankees. Nomar Garciaparra is gone from the Red Sox. The Red Sox tried to cut Manny Ramirez of Washington Heights to get A-Rod and now Ramirez might be MVP. The Yankees got A-Rod. We get the September we wanted. It is the September we always want. Somehow, the sides are still even.


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To: TIGHTEN
That's a cheap shot. Ultimately we're all here for a greater purpose.

Sorry. That Yankee-based conspiracy theory about the rain delay really got to me, and I shouldn't have lumped all Red Sox fans in with that wacky comment.

241 posted on 09/17/2004 6:31:32 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: dougiefresh
If we were Democrats, we would say the Yankees had a monopoly on the market and demand the government take steps to break them up (similar to the Microsoft suit).

Anti-Yankee people have been screaming about breaking up the Yankees since Mickey Mantle was in diapers.

242 posted on 09/17/2004 6:32:51 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago

They're back to playing ball. Cairo takes first base. ....hit by pitch.


243 posted on 09/17/2004 6:33:34 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: NYCVirago

That's cool, no problem. And you gotta think, we've all entertained a conspiracy once or twice:)


244 posted on 09/17/2004 6:33:55 PM PDT by TIGHTEN
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To: Mr. Mojo

That is the honest to God Truth...I only wish in the last series they played with the Yankees, the Yankees had won the NEEDED games to win the play off, right off the bat...to get the misery over with.


245 posted on 09/17/2004 6:34:09 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: Mr. Mojo
They're back to playing ball. Cairo takes first base. ....hit by pitch.

And no fight! I still can't get over how awful Arroyo's hair looks. Johnny Damon's gotta be happy, because now Bronson officially has the worst hairdo on the team.

246 posted on 09/17/2004 6:35:15 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: TIGHTEN
That's cool, no problem. And you gotta think, we've all entertained a conspiracy once or twice:)

I think the Red Sox have the conspiracy of bad hair! ;)

247 posted on 09/17/2004 6:35:58 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
Manny's hair is up there among the worst as well.

I wonder if Arroyo actually thinks he looks hip?

The ump's strike zone is very high tonight.

248 posted on 09/17/2004 6:38:02 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: NYCVirago

What a horsesh*t call third strike on Jeter!


249 posted on 09/17/2004 6:38:13 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Great idea. Thanks. This ought to be interesting. I have tix for Sunday's game. I hear Pedro's pitching. Right now, I'm performing a voodoo ritual on a Pedro doll.


250 posted on 09/17/2004 6:40:05 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Sturtz and his bloated 6.47 ERA pitching. ....


251 posted on 09/17/2004 6:40:41 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: NYCVirago

LOL!

Can't you see it's all on purpose. Their whole team is made up of freaky, nonconformists. It's the beauty behind the ugly...

And I can get enough of it!


252 posted on 09/17/2004 6:40:51 PM PDT by TIGHTEN
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To: F16Fighter
What a horsesh*t call third strike on Jeter!

And Jeter rarely argues strike calls, but he sure argued that one.

253 posted on 09/17/2004 6:41:17 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: F16Fighter

Well, considering El Duque was hanging every other curveball and had thrown almost 70 pitches, Torre didn't have much of a choice. Sturtze can be wicked on occasion -- hopefully tonight.


254 posted on 09/17/2004 6:43:53 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: NYCVirago

Yanks need to score NOW. .....before this game is called.


255 posted on 09/17/2004 6:45:30 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
Tanyon Sturtze is ON tonight!

Poor baby Jeter got called out on strikes, aw .....

256 posted on 09/17/2004 6:47:42 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("The common man doesn't look at me as some rich witch." --Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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To: TIGHTEN
Can't you see it's all on purpose. Their whole team is made up of freaky, nonconformists. It's the beauty behind the ugly... And I can get enough of it!

I think it *is* on purpose. Last year was the whole Cowboy Up thing with the shaved heads; and this year is just Hair Don'ts, instead of Hairdos. Arroyo's hair may be the worst style I've ever seen, and I don't say that lightly.

257 posted on 09/17/2004 6:50:02 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: JohnnyZ
He looks ok so far. We'll know in another inning or so.

Damn, Matsui can't get A-Rod home from 3rd.

258 posted on 09/17/2004 6:50:08 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Matsui...Man, he popped up a FAT pitch.


259 posted on 09/17/2004 6:50:16 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter

Alright.....at least they get a run across.


260 posted on 09/17/2004 6:51:55 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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