***ALERT*** Inconsistencies in Marian Carr Knox's Story ***Bloggers Take Note***

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[counterpunch]

Marian Carr Knox's story has been shifting fast and furious over the last 3 days, and quite dramatically from a week ago. She seems to add more charges with each interview she gives. Compare:

ABC News, Sept 14
"He did have complaints about Bush. Bush missed his physical and went off to Alabama with none of the paperwork, I remember Killian talking about that," Knox said. "But it wasn't in memo file."

CBS News, Sept 16
Did Knox ever hear Killian talk about this, or did he write memos about Bush not taking the physical?

“He was upset about it. That was one of the reasons why he wrote a memo directing him to go take the physical,” says Knox.

Dallas Morning News, Sept 15
"These are not real," she told The Dallas Morning News after examining copies of the disputed memos for the first time. "They're not what I typed, and I would have typed them for him."

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"The information in here was correct, but it was picked up from the real ones," she said. "I probably typed the information and somebody picked up the information some way or another."
Mrs. Knox said that she didn't recall typing a Killian memo alleging that a commander, Col. Walter "Buck" Staudt, was pressuring officers to "sugar coat" Mr. Bush's record. But, she said, such a portrayal of Col. Staudt was consistent with his character and Col. Killian's opinion of his superior officer.


The Drudge Report, Sept 14
"I did not type these particular memos. I typed memos like these," Knox told the DRUDGE REPORT from her home in Houston.

"I typed memos that had this information in them, but I did not type these memos. There are terms in these memos that are not Guard terms but that are Army terms. They use the word 'Billets'. I think they were using that to refer to the slot. That would be a non-flying slot the way we would use it. And the style... they are sloppy looking."


Houston Chronicle, Sept 15
Knox said the subject matter in the documents does, however, reflect sentiments Killian expressed to her at the time.

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Knox said she decided to report her recollection of the time period to the media after hearing White House press officials say the information in the memos was false.

She said the military jargon in the documents would be used in the Navy or Army and not the Air Force.

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Last week, Knox said she had no firsthand knowledge of Bush's time with the Texas Air National Guard, although she did recall a culture of special treatment for the sons of prominent people, such as Bush and others.

So was there a memo regarding Bush's physical or wasn't there?
Knox seems to indicate both. (I wonder who's been coaching her that technique?)

Did Killian write these memos, or did Knox type them, or do the forged documents only "reflect sentiments Killian expressed"?
Or is it that the official records tell the truth, and Knox has been coached to lie?

And could it be that in all of their exhaustive research for the story over the course of the last 4 years CBS never contacted Knox?
Is that even feasable for a moment?
If the Houston Chronicle was able to find her and interview her a week ago, one would think 60 Minutes could have as well. Surely they would have found Killian's own secretary to verify the authenticity of memos that she would have typed, right?
Surely with all the research they did in tracking down so many different "unimpeachable sources" who were aware of Killian's feelings at the time, she would have been one of them.

There doesn't seem to even be any of these several witness left after Hodges refuted CBS's characterization, except for Knox who CBS would like us to believe they had not contacted prior to her speaking out to "set the record straight".

CBS's numbers don't add up here.
I believe she was contacted. The only reason they wouldn't have contacted her is if they knew from the start that the documents were forgeries.

I believe she has been involved from the start, one of their original anonymous sources -- sent to CBS by the DNC -- and once the fraud was exposed a nuclear option was drafted. Have her suddenly come forward, only after the cover was blown a full week after the controversy had errupted, and kill the memo story to save the AWOL story.

So they no longer have the memos to prop up their accusations, but now they have the definitive Killian memo expert!

I have a few other questions about Knox's story. How would she know the Army terminology and formatting?
And why is that the only part of her story that has remained consistent in every interview?
Except for one...
She included the Navy once as well.

It seems like there was a deliberate effort to from the bigginning of her miraculous arrival to insist that someone with Army Reserve documentation knowledge was involved. Which conveniently points to Burkett.

Inclusion of the Navy -- John Kerry's branch of service -- was promptly dropped from her act.

Another question I have is if direct orders are ever issued in non-official personal memos. I've never heard of this practice.

[truthseeker2]

Is this woman related to Ricky Knox...partner to Ben Barnes?

[Bertha Fanation]

This just in. CBS has located the civilian (now an octogenarian) who cleaned toilets at Killian’s TANG in the 70's. He routinely overheard Killian say negative things about Bush. He will tell all. Rather/CBS to smear Bush anew.

[FesterUSMC]

not a credible witness

[q_an_a]

another post shows that Physical for pilot happens on birthday - memo is months before the birthday of Lt. Bush. Why would they need one?

[Rutles4Ever]

"Today on the CBS Evening News, watch as I throw a 86 Year-old woman under bus..."

[Tax-chick]

I think the kindest thing we can say about Mrs. Knox is "dementia."

[steamboat]

Texas Republicans had split in 1976 between President Gerald Ford and rival Ronald Reagan. As 1980 approached, and the elder Bush maneuvered for the GOP nomination, local Reaganites didn't want to boost his namesake son. Some "actively worked against George W.," says Bush backer Ruth Schiermeier. When he won the GOP primary, well-known conservative activist Paul Weyrich and others intervened privately for the Democrat, state Sen. Kent Hance, according to Hance campaign manager Ricky Knox.

-from the Wall Street Journal, 06-11-1999

Looks like Ricky Knox was also the campaign manager for Bush's opponent in 1978

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[Stellar Dendrite]

bump

[hflynn]

This just in. CBS has located the civilian (now an octogenarian) who cleaned toilets at Killian’s TANG in the 70's.

Now the $hits is really going to hit the fan.

Rumor at Black Rock is if the octogenarian doesn't fly Dan will interview an Orangutan using sign language which Dan will translate for viewers.

[2nd amendment mama]

Oh...WoW! That would make even more sense then.......the plot thickens.

[1stMarylandRegiment]

The sloppiness and contradictions is this forgery, the "liar" language, the over-the-top (even for these gangsters) behavior - and the relative silence of the White House, are making me very jumpy. There is more here than we know yet - this jsut doesn't make sense otherwise.

It feels like CBS/DNC has something else going here and WH simply isn't taking the bait - just turning thier backs - and it is making DNC/CBS aboslutely insane that they can't get a rise.

So tehy turn up their rhetoric another notch with each passing day.

The only thing giving me some comfort is that if there is some sinister conspiracy there cannot be very many involved - or it would have broken apart by now.

[dfwgator]

He'll hire that "Crossing Over" guy to channel Killian.

[outlawcam]

ABC News, Sept 14
"He did have complaints about Bush. Bush missed his physical and went off to Alabama with none of the paperwork, I remember Killian talking about that," Knox said. "But it wasn't in memo file."

GREAT find. Thank you. Publish it far and wide.

[wagglebee]

Is this woman related to Ricky Knox...partner to Ben Barnes?

You've got to be kidding?!?!?! This is just getting better by the second. By next week it will turn out that this lady babysits Dan Ratherbiased's daughter's kids.

[Bungarian]

People miss the very first lie she made. She also had been coached by the Dems

Remember in the DMN article she claimed she came forward because someone at the Whitehouse said the stories were lies and it made her mad? No one at the Whitehouse commented or said it was all lies.

That is a typical Dem ploy. Claim you are mad about something no one ever said. Remember Kerry the night after the Presidents speech claiming he was mad because they questioned his patriotcy?

Same ploy

[Arrowhead1952]

This is a case of See ^BS witness has a severe case of CRS.

[Always Right]

***ALERT*** Inconsistencies in Marian Carr Knox's Story ***Bloggers Take Note***

PJ's on reporting for duty.

[lepton]

Is this woman related to Ricky Knox...partner to Ben Barnes?

There's another article floating around here noting that her son was in the Guard unit.