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CARL BERNSTEIN: RATHERGATE MAY BE ANOTHER WATERGATE
Hannity + Colmes, FoxNews | 9.16.04 | Mia T

Posted on 09/16/2004 11:10:48 AM PDT by Mia T

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To: M. Peach
I'm disappointed that you would even bother to comment if you don't like it.

Imagine how disappointed I was to see it here. I've honestly never encounted that type of stuff here before. Maybe, eventually I'll be like the rest here on this thread - compliment her work even though deep down I think otherwise.

61 posted on 09/16/2004 10:27:24 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (Take the first step in the war on terror - defeat John Kerry)
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To: M Kehoe

Thx.


62 posted on 09/17/2004 4:03:38 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Arizona

thank you.


63 posted on 09/17/2004 4:04:13 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: M. Peach; Doctor Raoul; Diva Betsy Ross; jla; ClintonBeGone; jacquej; Mr. Lucky; All
Thx for your support M. Peach, jla, doc et al. As I said above, each to his own taste... but, let's hope they are as offended by Rather's and the DNC's extralegal fonts as they are by my HyperText Markup Language (HTML)....

I am always amused by the hypers (hyperbolic HyperText Markup Language hypercritics).

This is a new medium. Why not experiment with new ways of getting the message out?

What was the purpose of this post?

Carl Bernstein, arguably the worst "Ratherian" example save Rather, himself, was cornered the other night by Sean Hannity and forced to admit that if the Democrats were involved in Rathergate, then what we have here is another Watergate.

How best to disseminate this devastating sound bite?

My best judgment was this post.

Apparently, not such a bad idea. As I type this, at least 3,731 unique pairs of eyeballs have viewed this thread, which means that it will be googling favorably before you can say "hyperlink."

64 posted on 09/17/2004 5:06:44 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: ClintonBeGone; Admin Moderator

A moderator told you to knock it off back at post #40, you need to learn to take instructions better.


65 posted on 09/17/2004 8:09:23 AM PDT by jla
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"I'm Zell Miller and I approve of Mia's posts!"

...almost forgot: BUMP!





OK, Zell didn't really say this. But if he read thru Mia's posts I bet he would.

66 posted on 09/17/2004 8:17:39 AM PDT by jla
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To: jla

bump ;)


67 posted on 09/17/2004 10:48:59 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Mia T,
Personally, I think you are a genius and I find your posts FANTASTIC. Believe me, you have far more supporters than you do critics here...Keep up the great work, my friend. You are very much appreciated.


68 posted on 09/17/2004 11:06:35 AM PDT by One4Indictment
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To: One4Indictment

You are very kind. Thank you. :)


69 posted on 09/17/2004 5:56:21 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: jla; All

 

RATHERGATE IS ANOTHER WATERGATE: The Nexus
So where are the grand juries, special prosecutors + indictments, anyway? (HEY! Where are the calls for them?)


by Mia T, 9.18.04



Bill Burkett, the former Texas National Guard officer who has been caught up in the mystery of how CBS News acquired memos that seem to question President Bush's Vietnam-era National Guard service, unsuccessfully offered information and advice to help the Kerry campaign attack Mr. Bush, according to a posting Mr. Burkett wrote in an e-mail newsletter.

"I spent some time on the phone with the Kerry campaign seniors yesterday," Mr. Burkett wrote on Aug. 21 in an e-mail letter circulated to a list of about 600 Texas Democrats.

He complained that he had to "get through seven layers of bureaucratic kids trying to get a job after the election."

"I talked with Max Cleland," Mr. Burkett continued, referring to the former senator from Georgia who has been supporting Senator John Kerry's Democratic presidential bid.

Alluding to advertisements by a veterans group that deprecates Mr. Kerry's Vietnam service, Mr. Burkett continued, "I asked if they wanted to counterattack or ride this to ground and outlast it, not spending any money. He said counterattack."

"So I gave them the information to do it with," Mr. Burkett wrote. "But none of them have called me back."

Mr. Burkett did not say what information he offered. Earlier this year, he gained attention for saying that in 1998 he saw aides to Gov. George W. Bush of Texas and Guard officials dispose of pieces of Mr. Bush's National Guard record that could prove politically embarrassing. Mr. Bush's aides have denied his account.

"I volunteered to come back out with more," Mr. Burkett wrote.

Mr. Burkett, who was at home on his ranch in Baird, near Abilene, on Friday, declined to comment.

Mr. Cleland said in a telephone interview that Mr. Burkett called him "a couple of weeks ago," as he was out campaigning for Mr. Kerry.

"I couldn't swear to it whether he used the term documents or information," Mr. Cleland said. "It was some kind of stuff, some kind of information he wanted to get to the campaign, or something, regarding Bush's National Guard service. I referred him up to somebody in the campaign."

Texan Involved in CBS Report Tried to Help Kerry Campaign
The New York Times | 9/16/04 | DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK and JIM RUTENBERG

Remarkably, Cleland did not become an embittered man when John Kerry's self-inflicted, bacitracin + bandaid-treated, tickets-out-of-Vietnam-and-onto-the-JFK-career-path scratches were deemed worthy of three purple hearts while his three missing limbs were deemed worthy of none; this, even after insult was added to injury when he was dispatched to Texas to lend his phantom limbs to Kerry's self-serving cause....

If Max Cleland lost nobility last week, John Kerry lost any semblance of decency. Harnessing and fomenting Max Cleland's denial and bitterness, Kerry sought finally to bring to fruition his cynical 1971 scheme that would shamelessly exploit a crippled vet for his own self-aggrandizing purposes.

Mia T
EXPLOITING MAX CLELAND

EXPLOITING MAX CLELAND


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CARL BERNSTEIN: RATHERGATE MAY BE ANOTHER WATERGATE


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CLUELESS: O'REILLY AND PODHORETZ ON RATHERGATE

THE KERRY-RATHER-BARNES FORGERIES DECONSTRUCTED
WHY JOHN KERRY IS DANGEROUS FOR AMERICA
9.14.04

Dear Mr. O'Reilly,

Contrary to your discussion tonight with John Podhoretz ("The O'Reilly Factor"-FoxNew), the authenticity of the Dan Rather memos is no longer open to debate.

Irrefutable proof on multiple levels now exists that the memos are forgeries.

Your problem seems to be that either you lack the technical expertise to evaluate the material... or you never examined the material in the first instance.

Additionally, both you and Podhoretz seem to approach this story with a pro-media bias, and you, in particular, seem to confuse proof in a court of law with reasoned analysis of the facts.

The author of THE PROOF is JOSEPH M. NEWCOMER, Ph.D., an acknowledged expert in the field and one of the pioneers/developers of electronic typesetting.

He proves definitively that the CBS memos are modern (and laughably inept) forgeries. (He states up front, BTW, that he is no fan of Bush, but that he is even less a fan of fraud.)

Both you and Podhoretz engaged in a bit of circular reasoning tonight. Your premise, that Rather wouldn't knowingly engage in the fraud, is something more suitably left for a possible conclusion.

That Rather used only a purported [and immaterial] "handwriting expert" -- who now, BTW, turns out to be not even that -- exposes his less than honest motivation. If you know anything about computer graphics (think 'copy and paste'), you would know that a signature cannot be validated from a photocopy.

The Newcomer treatise proves that the memos are forgeries. I strongly urge you to study it.

 

Sincerely,

Mia T

cc. John Podhoretz

 

COPYRIGHT MIA T 2004

THE KERRY-RATHER-BARNES FORGERIES DECONSTRUCTED
WHY JOHN KERRY IS DANGEROUS FOR AMERICA

 
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Q ERTY SERIES Thanx to Calpernia




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RATHERGATE IS ANOTHER WATERGATE: The Nexus

CARL BERNSTEIN: RATHERGATE MAY BE ANOTHER WATERGATE

CLUELESS: O'REILLY AND PODHORETZ ON RATHERGATE

THE KERRY-RATHER-BARNES FORGERIES DECONSTRUCTED

HEAR THE FIRST VEEP DEBATE NOW! (the whole ball of wax)
CHENEY WARNS AMERICA: THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT OUR SURVIVAL
KERRY-EDWARDS TRIES TO SHUT DOWN DEBATE

KERRY'S VIETNAM FIXATION
PART 1: advice from bill

Kerry's new W offensive

YOO-HOO! UNDECIDEDS + "PERSUADABLES"
HEAR THE SPEECH JOHN KERRY DOESN'T WANT YOU TO HEAR

(WHY INFORMED, RATIONAL DEMOCRATS WILL VOTE FOR BUSH)

DECONSTRUCTING ZELL MILLER

EXPLOITING MAX CLELAND

Kerry is UNFIT #21: THUMBSUCKER SERIES
BOARDHEAD TO THE RESCUE


The Left's Fatally Flawed "Animal Farm" Mentality
(Why America Must NEVER AGAIN Elect a Democrat President)


Kerry is UNFIT #20: THUMBSUCKER SERIES
PREEMPTION-
(the whole ball of wax)

CONTEMPLATING KERRY'S "GUT"

A PRESIDENT KERRY MAY BE ABHORRENT
...BUT IS IT EVEN CONSTITUTIONAL?


getting kerry's goat
john kerry lacks presidential temperament

Two Psychologists on Kerry: Dangerous on National Security

YOO-HOO! followthemoney.org. . .
OVER HERE!

"bombastic ass" is not the antidote to "boorish ass"
(or why Keith Olbermann Cannot Do Cleanup for Chris Matthews)

UNFIT #19:
JOHN KERRY'S "MORE SENSITIVE WAR ON TERROR"

THE COMPLEAT JOHN KERRY
WHY JOHN KERRY IS DANGEROUS FOR AMERICA

Kerry, NOT Bush, paralyzed by 9/11 attacks
Hear Kerry admit he could not think

THE DEMOCRATS ARE GONNA GET US KILLED (kerry, clinton + sandy berger's pants) SERlES 3
UNFIT #10: 9/10 mindset


THE DEMOCRATS ARE GONNA GET US KILLED (kerry, clinton + sandy berger's pants) SERlES 2
KERRY-DEMOCRAT CONTEMPT FOR NATIONAL SECURITY[annotated]


THE DEMOCRATS-ARE-GONNA-GET-US-KILLED (kerry, clinton + sandy berger's pants) SERlES1

dox in sox on lummox in box on fox

THE REAL "REAL DEAL"
(what Kerry's commanders and crewmates REALLY think of him--with transcripts)

Did John Kerry pick a running mate or hire a lawyer when he selected John Edwards?

THE MAN FROM HOPE: been there, done that

"Hope is on the way!" (the scoop)

THE TERRORISTS' USEFUL IDIOTS
all the usual suspects


A Vote for Kerry is a Vote for the Terrorists

ELECTION BOTTOM LINE:
TERRORIST SYMPATHIZER or TERRORIST ANNIHILATOR

JOHN KERRY IS UNFIT SERIES: 8/10/04 UPDATE!
taking the measure of a would-be commander-in-chief


JOHN KERRY IS UNFIT SERIES:
taking the measure of a would-be commander-in-chief


UNFIT #9-JOHN KERRY: DEADLY OPPORTUNIST
SELF-CONFESSED WAR CRIMlNAL MORPHS INTO SELF-PROMOTER WAR HERO


UNFIT #6: The Deadly Kerry-Hollywood Axis
HOW CAN YOU PUT YOUR CHILDREN'S LIVES IN ITS HANDS?


UNFIT: taking the measure of a would-be commander-in-chief
#1-making the tough choices in a post-9/11 world
UNFIT: taking the measure of a would-be commander-in-chief
#2-understanding the job description

UNFIT: taking the measure of a would-be commander-in-chief
#3-sang-froid and the "nuclear" button

UNFIT: taking the measure of a would-be commander-in-chief
#4 - Kerry champions tolerance for terrorists


sanitizing evil
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"Loose Cannon" Kerry's AWOL/PURPLE-HEART FRAUD

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USEFUL IDIOTS

MOORE IS LESS--THE MOVIE

The Cycle of Violence:
NOW WITH HYPERLINKED INSTRUCTION MANUAL


JOHN KERRY'S RECKLESS TET-OFFENSIVE-GAMBIT REPLAY:
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deconstructing clinton… "just because I could"

vetting missus clinton...

The Parallel Universe of Jamie Gorelick

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(or a hillary clinton)

Kerry's Belated Condemnation Focuses on Process
Kerry Lacks Moral Authority to Condemn Content

"CRY BUSH" + Iraqi-Prisoner "Abuse"
What are the Dems up to?


DON'T BELIEVE YOUR LYING EARS (The Perjurer Returns)
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The Mary Jo White Memo:
Documentation of clintons' and Gorelick's willful, seditious malfeasance


What is the REAL Reason for Gorelick's Wall?

giant sucking sound
KERRY MAKES DUKAKIS LOOK CONSERVATIVE, SMART + JUDICIOUS


Q ERTY6 utter failureBUMP
Lib Author Regrets Voting (TWICE!) for clinton
"Sickened" by clinton's Failure to Protect America from Terrorism

MUST-READ BOOK FOR DEMOCRATS:
How clintons' Failures Unleashed Global Terror

(Who in his right mind would ever want the clintons back in the Oval Office?)
The Man Who Warned America
(Why a Rapist is Not a Fit President)
UDAY: "The end is near… this time I think the… Americans are serious, Bush is not like Clinton."
 
 

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70 posted on 09/18/2004 9:34:31 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
"I have to agree that Mia's posts contain far too many graphics
and factual information other things that
expose me for the fraud that I am distract the more prudent reader"

71 posted on 09/18/2004 9:50:33 AM PDT by jla
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To: jla
;)

CBS defense of Rather hints at bigger story (FR and Buckhead mentioned)


Chicago Sun-Times|
September 19, 2004


BY MARK STEYN



Of all the loopy statements made by Dan Rather in the 10 days since he decided to throw his career away, my favorite is this, from Dan's interview with the Washington Post on Thursday:

''If the documents are not what we were led to believe, I'd like to break that story.''

Hel-looooo? Earth to the Lost Planet of Ratheria: You can't ''break that story.'' A guy called ''Buckhead'' did that, on the Free Republic Web site a couple of hours after you and your money-no-object resources-a-go-go ''60 Minutes'' crew attempted to pass off four obvious Microsoft Word documents as authentic 1972 typewritten memos about Bush's skipping latrine duty in the Spanish-American War, or whatever it was.

The following day Charles Johnson of the Little Green Footballs Web site drove a stake through your phony '70s memos by overlaying them with modern MS Word documents, whose automatic word wrap is amazingly an exact match with Lt. Col. Killian's ''typewriter.'' And every document expert agreed with Johnson your memos are junk, including your own analysts.

By now just about everybody on the planet also thinks they're junk, except for that dwindling number of misguided people who watch the ''CBS Evening News'' under the misapprehension that it's a news broadcast rather than a new unreality show in which a cocooned anchor, his floundering news division and some feeble executives are trapped on their own isle of delusion and can't figure out a way to vote themselves off it.

So the only story you're in a position to break right now is: ''Late-Breaking News. Veteran Newsman Announces He's Recovered His Marbles.'' And, if last week's anything to go by, you're in no hurry to do that.

Instead, Dan keeps demanding Bush respond to the ''serious questions'' raised by his fake memos. ''With respect, Mr. President,'' he droned the other day, ''answer the questions.'' The president would love to, but he's doubled up with laughter.

I was prepared to cut the poor old buffoon some slack a week ago. But Dan's performance has grown progressively more outrageous, to the point where it's hard not to conclude he's colluding in the perpetuation of a massive if ludicrous fraud. Dan's been play-acting at being a reporter for so many years now -- the suspenders, the loosened tie, and all the other stuff that would look great if he were auditioning for a cheesy dinner-theater revival of ''The Front Page''; the over-the-top intros: ''Bob Schieffer, one of the best hard-nosed reporters in the business, has been working his sources. What have you managed to uncover for us, Bob?'', after which Bob reads out a DNC press release. Dan's been doing all this so long he doesn't seem to realize the news isn't just a show.

Round about the middle of last week, he was reduced to shoring up his collapsing fantasy with Bill Glennon, a Cliff Claven figure who was a typewriter repairman in the '70s. But, because every other CBS expert had abandoned Dan's sunk ship, Bill suddenly found himself upgraded to ''document expert.'' This guy's been insisting that you could produce Dan's bogus memos on a 1972 IBM typewriter: ''The Model D had a lever that when pushed put a rubber stopper in front of the keys so they did not strike the paper. You centered the paper using the paper scale, put the carriage on the middle mark of the front index scale, typed your heading and then made note of the number it stopped on. You then moved the carriage back to the corresponding number on the left side of the index scale and retyped your heading and . . .''

Yeah, right. Every time I want to type a memo saying Bush is unfit to be president, that's what I do, too. Look, if Dan thinks this guy's theory is correct, let's put him and his IBM Model D and me and my computer in a room at CBS News for an hour and see which one of us emerges with the closest replicas of these four documents. I'll give him ten thousand bucks for every memo he reproduces exactly, and round it up to an even 50 grand if he gets all four right.

Any takers, CBS?

So the question now is why won't Dan and Co. just admit their docs are crocks and let it go? On Wednesday, CBS News head honcho Andrew Heyward, in a slippery statement, announced that ''we established to our satisfaction that the memos were accurate.'' Note that word: not ''genuine'' but ''accurate'' -- i.e., if Lt. Col. Killian had had one of those IBM Model Ds and been willing to remove the carriage return and replace it with a rubber stopper on the front index scale while turning the crank, etc., these are the memos he would have written. Rather and Heyward are adopting the rogue-cop defense: The evidence is planted, but the guy's still guilty. Or as the New York Times' headline put it: ''Memos On Bush Are Fake But Accurate.''

Why has CBS News decided it would rather debauch its brand and treat its audience like morons than simply admit their hoax? For Dan Rather? I doubt it. Hurricane Dan looks like he's been hit by one. He's still standing, just about, but, like a battered double-wide, more and more panels are falling off every day. No one would destroy three-quarters of a century of audience trust and goodwill for one shattered anachronism of an anchorman, would they?

As the network put it last week, ''In accordance with longstanding journalistic ethics, CBS News is not prepared to reveal its confidential sources or the method by which '60 Minutes' Wednesday received the documents.'' But, once they admit the documents are fake, they can no longer claim ''journalistic ethics'' as an excuse to protect their source. There's no legal or First Amendment protection afforded to a man who peddles a fraud. You'd think CBS would be mad as hell to find whoever it was who stitched them up and made them look idiots.

So why aren't they? The only reasonable conclusion is that the source -- or trail of sources -- is even more incriminating than the fake documents. Why else would Heyward and Rather allow the CBS news division to commit slow, public suicide?

Whatever other lessons are drawn from this, we ought at least to acknowledge that the privileged position accorded to ''official'' media and the restrictions placed on the citizenry by McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform are wholly unwarranted.

As for Heyward and Rather, the other day I came across a rare memo from April 20, 1653, typed on a 17th century prototype of the IBM Selectric. It's Oliver Cromwell's words to England's Long Parliament:

''You have sat too long for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!''

RATHERGATE IS ANOTHER WATERGATE: The Nexuscomputer-generated superscriptPING


72 posted on 09/18/2004 10:22:05 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

BUMP


73 posted on 09/18/2004 3:04:01 PM PDT by jla
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To: ClintonBeGone

Are you having a bad day?


74 posted on 09/18/2004 3:07:29 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: ApesForEvolution

I know I know. And you and I usually agree on most everything. :(


75 posted on 09/18/2004 5:18:38 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (Take the first step in the war on terror - defeat John Kerry)
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To: ClintonBeGone

Look up man, your redeemer draws nigh...;)


76 posted on 09/18/2004 5:29:30 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: Mia T
Your problem seems to be that either you lack the technical expertise to evaluate the material... or you never examined the material in the first instance.

Writing O'Reilly on this is a waste of your talented breath, Mia.


77 posted on 09/18/2004 5:33:39 PM PDT by ErnBatavia ("Dork"; a 60's term for a 60's kinda guy: JFK)
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To: Mia T

BUMP


78 posted on 09/19/2004 3:48:08 AM PDT by jla
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To: jla

BUMP


79 posted on 09/19/2004 4:34:41 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

bump


80 posted on 09/22/2004 11:55:51 AM PDT by jla
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