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Dan Rather: "powerful and extremely well-financed forces"
New York Observer ^

Posted on 09/15/2004 2:13:33 PM PDT by akostenko

Mr. Rather said that the focus on questions over the veracity of the memos was a smoke screen perpetrated by right-wing allies of the Bush administration.

"I think the public, even decent people who may be well-disposed toward President Bush, understand that powerful and extremely well-financed forces are concentrating on questions about the documents because they can’t deny the fundamental truth of the story," he said.

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KEYWORDS: cbsnews; killian; monstersunderthebed; paranoia; rather; rightwingconspiracy; seebsnews; vastrightwing; vrwc
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To: akostenko
powerful and extremely well-financed forces

Where's my check?

141 posted on 09/15/2004 4:14:36 PM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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To: Alouette
I'm a certified, card-carrying ELDER OF ZION and I didn't get my check yet.

So, what's up with the International Jewish Conspiracy? (I know that it's been proven that The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion are a forgery, but according to Dan Rather logic that doesn't discredit the truth of the contents....)

143 posted on 09/15/2004 4:20:31 PM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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To: Soul Seeker
"This is your basic fogging machine, which is set up to cloud the issue, to obscure the truth," he said.

pro-jec-tion (pr&-JEK-sh&n): The attribution of one's own attitudes, feelings, or desires to someone or something as a naive or unconscious defense against anxiety or guilt.

144 posted on 09/15/2004 4:25:53 PM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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To: smith288
According to Dan Rather we are the "powerful and extremely well-financed forces". LOL!
Then how does Dan explain my checking account??

Obviously, your paltry checking account is a cover under which you protect your obscenely huge wealth (at least until Bush completely abolishes all taxes on The Rich).

145 posted on 09/15/2004 4:30:51 PM PDT by steve-b (Panties & Leashes Would Look Good On Spammers)
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To: counterpunch

I don't even own pajamas.


146 posted on 09/15/2004 4:31:53 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: akostenko

I yam what I yam. uckfa ouya anda


147 posted on 09/15/2004 5:21:40 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Ben Chad

Well it is not always very powerful, I just read a DU statement that said "We have to defend the truth, even if it is a minor truth" speaking of Dan's memogate.

Minor truth are sort of weak. Major truths are powerful....
LIBERALS ARE INSANE.


148 posted on 09/15/2004 6:36:48 PM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ))
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To: akostenko
Pardon the repost:

It is becoming clearer by the day. It is either CBS News or Rather. The longer they stay with Rather on this thing--an obvious fraud to all--the more liklely it is that CBS will be abandoned. The culture there must be so insular that they have no idea about what is taking place in offices around the country (if mine is any example). To a person, the documents, and hence the story itself, are viewed as fraudulent. People aren't focusing so much on who staged the story (or why), but rather why CBS continues to defend that which they view as indefensible. I am talking about a complete consensus by both liberals and conservatives.

This phenomenon is cutting across party lines. It is a very sobbering epiphany for a lot of people: that a respected national news organization would not come clean on these facts.

Based on the chatter where I am, this will not die. The longer it goes on unresolved, the more it gets talked about. It is no longer about Kerry or Bush, but about Dan Rather and CBS.

149 posted on 09/15/2004 6:40:50 PM PDT by Zebra
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To: Zebra

Zebra, my office is the same as yours. We all had a good laugh today at the Nixonesque caricature of Rather saying "Our news is not a crock!"


150 posted on 09/15/2004 7:28:11 PM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: akostenko; dead
According to Dan Rather we are the "powerful and extremely well-financed forces". LOL!

I wonder what the commoners are doing now. I'm thinking of firing the gardeners just for spite.

Oh Steve, how was the Skull and Crossbones meeting? Did we blackball the Senator?

151 posted on 09/15/2004 7:39:24 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: politicalwit
"For those wishing to receive your payment please send me your checking account information. (This is not a bogus message.)"

LOL! Don't worry, I just heard that Dan Rather is taking us all out to lunch. He's buying us fraud clams with faked potatos.

152 posted on 09/15/2004 8:42:51 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II (c 1097 a.d.))
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To: akostenko

Hey Dan, you're an A$$!!!!!! Thank God your generation is dying.


153 posted on 09/16/2004 1:56:48 AM PDT by starvingstudent (ask your favorite leftist: "If there is another civil war, who do you think will win?")
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To: starvingstudent

P.S. no offense to my friends here at FR


154 posted on 09/16/2004 1:57:31 AM PDT by starvingstudent (ask your favorite leftist: "If there is another civil war, who do you think will win?")
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To: akostenko

Well, it NOW looks like Rather, instead of fabricating the news, is, himself, the news. How does it feel, Dan, to be on the OTHER side of an investigation? This reminds me of the movie, with Paul Newman, "Absence of Malice"

Rather quote:
But he also delivered a message to "our journalistic competitors," including The Washington Post and rival networks: "Instead of asking President Bush and his staff questions about what is true and not true about the president's military service, they ask me questions: 'How do you know this and that about the documents?' "


155 posted on 09/16/2004 2:55:51 AM PDT by RetSignman (Forever Optimistic)
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To: mlbford2; Jim Robinson

I WANT MY OVERTIME PAY!

AND JIM ROB IS KEEPING ALL OF IT ........

(Long wine to follow ..........................)


156 posted on 09/16/2004 3:00:40 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Mark
Or Stephen Bing?

JULY 28, 2004 : (MASS : JOHN KERRY, JOHN EDWARDS & FILM PRODUCER STEPHEN BING ARRIVE IN BOSTON FOR THE DNC CONVENTION - BING'S BUSINESS PARTNER AND FRIEND IS NY MAFIA FIGURE DOMINIC MONTEMARANO aka DONNIE SHACKS - CURRENTLY IN PRISON ON RACKETEERING CHARGES) As Sens. John Kerry and John Edwards arrived in Boston today for the Democratic National Convention, so did the California man who is their single biggest contributor. He is Stephen Bing, a wealthy film producer who, with little fanfare, has managed to steer a total of more than $16 million of his money to Democratic candidates and the supposedly independent groups that support them.

"To most of the people who track money and politics, they're like, who the hell is Steve Bing?" said Chuck Lewis, founder of the Center for Public Integrity, a nonprofit, nonpartisan watchdog organization. Bing is perhaps best known for sparking a tabloid frenzy when he publicly expressed doubt that he was the father of actress Elizabeth Hurley's baby. (A paternity test proved he was indeed the father.) He repeatedly has refused to say why he is funneling millions of dollars to the Democrats. Lewis thinks it is cause for concern. "We can identify who the big donors are, but how much do we really know about any of them?" he said.

In fact, Democratic Party officials said they knew nothing about the man who law enforcement officials tell ABC News is Bing's friend and business partner — Dominic Montemarano, a New York Mafia figure currently in federal prison on racketeering charges. Montemarano has a long criminal record and is known to organized crime investigators by his street name, Donnie Shacks. "Donnie Shacks' main activity was murder. No question about it. That was his main function for the Colombo family and for organized crime in general. He was one of the top hit men in the New York area," said Joe Coffey, a former NYPD investigator.

According to The Los Angeles Times, Bing paid Montemarano's legal fees after his most recent scrape with the law. Montemerano's lawyer said his client was an employee of Bing's.

After a recent private lunch with Democratic vice-presidential candidate Edwards, Bing also declined to answer questions about his relationship with Montemarano. The American people have a right to know who's funding their presidential candidates and their parties," Lewis said. "The Bing situation shows us how little we really know." --- "Fattest Cat," by Brian Ross, ABC news, 7-28-04

Or this?

* Vivian Mannerud : [Massachussetts senator Kerry] accepted campaign funds from Vivian Mannerud, a Democratic campaign donor linked to cocaine trafficker Jorge Cabrera. Even when other Democrats returned such donations, he opted to keep them. Mannerud hosted an $18,000 Kerry fund-raiser, gave $1,000 in donations and arranged foreign travel for Kerry's staff as recently as April 2000. Though Kerry's advisors warned him that Mannerud's drug connection could prove troublesome, Kerry wasn't swayed. "We accept her word she had no knowledge of Mr. Cabrera's illicit activities," the Herald quoted Kerry spokesman David Wade as saying.- Boston Herald

157 posted on 09/16/2004 3:03:51 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: akostenko

"With respect: answer the questions," said Dan Rather, the CBS News anchor. He was asking a direct question to President George W. Bush, his re-election campaign and his political allies in the press and on the Web. "We’ve heard what you have to say about the documents and what you’ve said and what your surrogates have said, but for the moment, answer the questions.

"I say that with respect," he added. "They’d be a lot stronger in their campaign if they did do that."

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JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION, DAN. WHO FORGED THE DOCUMENT?!


158 posted on 09/16/2004 3:04:28 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: counterpunch

I prefer to be noted with silk pajamas....and lacy tops....with bunny shoes...so no one gets the idea that i'm really dangerous or anything....


159 posted on 09/16/2004 3:07:21 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: akostenko

Hillary must be right there is a Great Right Wing Conspiracy (GRWC). You can see the black helicopters from Dan's office. They are marked GRWC on the undercarriage. They are coming to take Dan away. They have a jacket for Dan, and it has long sleeves and straps.


160 posted on 09/16/2004 3:09:56 AM PDT by DOGEY
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