Guns, Security, and the Three Ps

The Autonomist ^ | 9/14/04 | Reginald Firehammer

[Smokin' Joe]

Funny, the same number of people had voted when I just voted.

[Travis McGee]

It's not an "assault rifle," it's a Homeland Defense Rifle!

[Travis McGee]

Keep me on your list, thanks!

[B4Ranch]

When our guns are outlawed and confiscation begins is when the TEST begins. It will be tough test for patriots.

There'll be just one question: Are willing to fight for you and your familys FREEDOM or do you prefer the security of a slave?

Surrender your weapons and your score is an automatic F

Lets hope there are very few A 's

[Dead Corpse]

Question has already been answered. Bans in Cali and confiscation in Michigan. Until it hits one of our home towns, ain't a single one of us gonna do squat.

[NYTexan]

Was it not Ben Franklin that said (paraphrasing) those that would give up liberty for protection deserve neither!

An AMEN to that notion!

[B4Ranch]

>>When asked why I need an assault weapon,<<

It is to assist me in a gaining access to the RPG's and the heavy weapons that an enemy would be using to take away the Freedom of the American people. Other than that I have absolutely no use for any weapon that would support hi-capacity magazines.

My old Anchultz bolt action, single shot .22 caliber is much easier on your ears and mine PLUS it is more of a challenge to shoot on a windy day at 100 yds.

[B4Ranch]

Even then I don't think we have the required 5%. Paul Revere will just roll over and go back to sleep when he realizes that patriotism is not a well understood notion today.

We certainly have our share of courageous heroes who became heroes fighting for democracy in foreign countries but when it comes to fighting for the same democracy on American soil, well something is missing.

Probably the mental requirement to accept the reality that another American, yes an American can become your deadly enemy.

Traitors within our society are much more difficult to locate because we have one helluva time even thinking that an American Senator or President could be intentionally taking away our Bill of Rights and our Constitution with all the Amendments, line by line, day by day.

Would Senator Fienstien please stand up with Senator Kennedy and raise your hands so that all may see your faces.

[B4Ranch]

>>I doubt there will be a "revolution" for political reasons any time in the next hundred years, but without guns, there can NEVER be. <<

Imagine the reaction in Sacramento, if this weekend 5000 men and women with their hunting rifles slung over their shoulders were to quietly march around the state capitol buildings, each carrying the flag and a small sign that said,

"Arnie, we will defend ourselves and be reponsible for our own personal security. We will also make damn sure nobody attacks you, Yesir, that's a promise! We are not going to accept the state bans on the firearms we need to this task so Monday morning get your butt in gear and remove all of them before we come back with our neighbors.
Understood?"

[Badray]

Hank,

Definitely keep me on your list.

[Badray]

Not just a good, but an excellent essay. Thanks.

[SLB]

Great read - your list is a "keeper" for me, I am glad to be there. Thanks for posting.

[NittanyLion]

BTTT.

[Dead Corpse]

Probably the mental requirement to accept the reality that another American, yes an American can become your deadly enemy.

We keep getting shouted down by those who say "give the system a chance". We make cosmetic gains while they continue to flush everthing else down the toilet. We say vote for a real conservative candidate (McClinock), they say winning is more imporatant (RINO Aah-nold).

It happens with court case, legislation, and the vote. Chicken sh*t moderates and those more than half way on the other side of the fence continue to marginalize and defuse the patriotism, fervor, and love of freedom from those who want REAL change in this downward slide.

Heck, some of them will probably pop up on this thread...

[Dead Corpse]

Remember when we suggested doing the same in in Washington DC? We were called "nutcases" by our own right here on FR. Heck, I got suspended for a couple days for daring to suggest that traitors should be removed from office, with prejudice if necessary. Although the wording was different. ;-)

Things will have to get a lot worse....

[Zon]

IMO, The test is guns.by L.Neil Smith is among the top three best articles on guns and pols.

[FourtySeven]

Thanks for the ping. Interesting read. I like what it says about the necessity of the 2nd Amendment. IMO, it's perhaps the most important amendment of them all. It's the lynch pin that keeps all the others secure. There shouldn't be any restrictions on any weapons, imo. The "dark, ugly side" of the 2nd Amendment is that it's meant to keep the citizenry as well armed as possible, to stand against any tyranical threat, both foreign and domestic. Can't do that if we ban guns for cosmetic reasons, or just because some nutcase doesn't use them responsibly.

I'll probably take some heat though for my support of Homeland Security. I don't think the author is right when he says that the government is asking us, "'Just give us the power to read all your email, listen to all your telephone conversations, examine all your bank accounts, know where you are every moment of your life, and to force you to have inoculations you do not want, and we will make you secure.'" It's not "everyone", rather people who are already suspect, like those student visas that expire, or those ME people coming over with passports from Canada or Mexico, engaging in already suspicious activity. Put another way, I haven't had my telephone tapped, or my bank accounts examined, or, (and this is perhaps the most laughable part of the author's 'concern') been forced to take inoculations I don't want. Never. Has anyone else here? I have yet to hear of one American citizen, doing nothing wrong, who's rights have been violated by the Patriot Act.

[Publius Valerius]

To the government the "Homeland" means, "the U.S. Government." "Homeland Security" means, "Government security," and the whole purpose of the Homeland Security Act is to make the Government secure. That is why your politicians can, with a straight face, describe how they are going to violate your privacy, your property, and your person and do those things to provide you security. To them, your personal security is a small price to pay for the security of the government.

I think this is about right.

[Dead Corpse]

He's expressed similar sentiments before. And the Test works. It is the prime reason why my vote for Bush was not decided until this past Monday.

[blackie]

Roger that, Joe ~ it sounds about right to me!

The Second Amendment...
America's Original Homeland Security!

Be Ever Vigilant!