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1 posted on 09/11/2004 10:10:33 PM PDT by Catphish
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THank you ! I've been looking for this all night, this is the smoking gun!!


2 posted on 09/11/2004 10:14:47 PM PDT by JPJones ("We'll cross all our tee's and dot all our.....lower case j's")
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3 posted on 09/11/2004 10:15:21 PM PDT by woodb01 (Take out the 'dnC'BS "news" trash... Make the dnCBS EXTINCT)
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re: The only other options are that the document is a forgery, or that Killian sent out his personal memos to file to a typesetter. )))

AbsoLUTEly.

And by typesetter, in this time (1973), we're talking about something very like the process that the most fancy of wedding invitations are made today.

Question that bugs me--what now? The proof can't be argued with, but it can be stonewalled. Rather can just insist "Oh, yes, it is authentic" unless there's some creative means to corner him.

4 posted on 09/11/2004 10:17:06 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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CBS's unrevealed source of their Faux Docs are most certainly an anti-Bush 527 or Team Kerry source.

Since the (D)'s new talking points are:
1) CBS has faux docs, and Kerry has faux medals, ergo, SwiftVets are faux too (that's a quantum leap)
2) Everybody is slinging mud, so believe nothing (esp. the SwiftVets)
3) The subject on top of the heap is W's Tex ANG and not 85% of Kerry's fellow sailors who despise him.

This tactic will best with their own base, for whom it is targeted, since the SwiftVets have eroded a noticeable chunk off of Kerry's base.

5 posted on 09/11/2004 10:20:32 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Sorry Kerry, you're 3 decimal places adrift: 3,000,000 not 3,000 "displaced"/murdered SE Asians)
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This is excellent, thank you! I've been looking for some type of proof-positive that there was kerning in the "documents".


/BTW, are those lines moving or have I just been up too long? ;-)


6 posted on 09/11/2004 10:20:54 PM PDT by Tamzee (Free Republic .... Partisan Pajama People)
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bump


7 posted on 09/11/2004 10:22:00 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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Kerningate?


8 posted on 09/11/2004 10:24:13 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (CBS's story is sinking faster than Uncle Ted's Oldsmobile.)
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This is sooo frustrating, but why am I surprised. The stench of media bias is so strong here...if this had been anything in the opposite direction, it would have been the lead item on the nightly news for weeks on end.

Anyway, GREAT JOB HERE!


9 posted on 09/11/2004 10:25:37 PM PDT by rlmorel
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What about ligatures?


10 posted on 09/11/2004 10:26:26 PM PDT by HAL9000
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proof positive-smoking-gun-end-of-story-bump


11 posted on 09/11/2004 10:30:00 PM PDT by JPJones ("We'll cross all our tee's and dot all our.....lower case j's")
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Dan Rather's favorite soap operas:

As The World Kerns

One Lie to Live



12 posted on 09/11/2004 10:30:01 PM PDT by Rocky (Heinz Kerry: 57 positions on any issue)
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For anyone who wants absolutely to be convinced, including those at DU who have Word 2003, please do the following:

Open Word.

Maintain everything else in default, but set font to Times News Roman 11.

Go to item 4 in the suppose memo of 01 August 1972, where the subject is the suspension of flight status. This can be found for instance at

http://www.clownposse.org/forum/news.asp?news_id=203

(scroll down).

Now type:

4. On recommendation of Harris, I also suggested that we fill this critical billet with a more seasoned pilot from the list of qualified Vietnam pilots that have rotated. Recommendations were received but not confirmed.

Put two spaces between “4.” and “On” and two spaces between the two sentences; that is, between “rotated.” and the capital R of the second sentence.

Now, compare the spacing, line breaks, the vertical distance between the three lines, etc. Line up letters vertically. Do what you want, the two are the same, despite the purported 32 years that separate them.

But now the kerning punch line.

In the Microsoft Word document, go to the word “fill” and put your cursor between the “f" and the “i”. What do you see? The cursor cuts the top of the “f" and there is a bit of the f that you can see to the right of the cursor line – the f hangs over the space of the i, which as many, many have pointed out is a matter of kerning, and is a property of typesetting or the post-Adode postscript era. Now sit and think about the two facts: letters line up perfectly between "1972" and what we know today, and kerning changes the spacing between letters in documents today. Sit and think. The Freepers have already caught on.

And now for those at DU who do not yet get it:

(1) The probability that a typewritten document in 1972 would replicate – in letter spacing, line breaks, etc. – the Microsoft Word rendition of the same sentence in 2004 is, as the statisticians would say, near zero.

(2) Due to the spacing adjustment that would accompany kerning, and due to the zero probability that Killian would be typesetting his memos, there is a vanishing probability that something written in 1972 would match so precisely with Microsoft Word.

(3) So it’s all Bill Gates’s fault. He and Rove are controlling the world.

13 posted on 09/11/2004 10:31:20 PM PDT by chinche
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Here we go again. Non-professionals trying to render judgement! The guy is wrong - "kerning" is not about visible widths of pair of glyths. fa and af have different "black width" because f is assymmetrically positioned in its square, it has "right overhang". Kerning is second order adjustment and the forged memos match Word produced text without kerning! Kerning is a non-issue, stop mentioning it!


14 posted on 09/11/2004 10:32:02 PM PDT by eclectic
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I've been saying about the fonds on other Kerry docs. Like his DD214 are also the wrong kind. More checking need to be done!


15 posted on 09/11/2004 10:32:20 PM PDT by quietolong
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This is good enough proof that it text is kerned
...which is not possible when using a typewriter. i.e. the memos are FAKE.


17 posted on 09/11/2004 10:41:55 PM PDT by igoramus987
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By the way, I also wanted to do an analysis of some typewritten text from an IBM Selectric Composer to prove (for absolute morons) that typewriters can not do kerning, but I can't find an example in good enough quality that has both the at and ta pairs. If anyone comes across anything, email me at raina at rainabear dot org.

There was a good example of an IBM selectic composer done here on FR earlier. I don't have a link.

22 posted on 09/11/2004 10:49:11 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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BTTT


23 posted on 09/11/2004 10:51:46 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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Just sent Raina a couple of scans of memo's. One dated 72 and the other 73. Certainly IBM Selectrics; don't know if they were Composers.

Looking at the ta and at pairs, there's clearly no kerning.


29 posted on 09/11/2004 11:07:54 PM PDT by bellevuesbest
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To everything, kern kern kern....


44 posted on 09/12/2004 12:30:50 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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Hmm, people on these threads have been using the term "kerning" when they are really referring to the spacing offset that is a special feature of TrueType fonts, which were not invented AND PATENTED until the 1980's.

The definitive, last-word, final-nail-in-the-coffin from a typesetting expert

Includes the technical definition of "kerning" which I was surprised to learn is not a default in Microsoft Word. However he then goes on to say that the infamous "CBS memos" were made using TrueType fonts, even more damning than "kerning."

59 posted on 09/12/2004 6:25:53 PM PDT by Alouette (Dan Rather lied. CBS died.)
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