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NRO Finds Genuine Bush Document with Superscript "TH"
National Review ^ | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 09/10/2004 2:54:13 PM PDT by jaycost

There is a link to a PDF Document. You'll note that it is on the third page at the top. This must be what CBS is hinting at in its press release.

The differences between this document and the CBS forgeries are quantum.

If this is what CBS is going to hang its hat on, then they are *really* sunk. What is worse? Coming clean when you are caught, or making a lame excuse?


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: killian; rathergate
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1 posted on 09/10/2004 2:54:13 PM PDT by jaycost
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To: jaycost

where is the link?


2 posted on 09/10/2004 2:55:05 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: jaycost

"We didn't do it, nobody saw us do it, you can't prove anything."


3 posted on 09/10/2004 2:56:01 PM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: aft_lizard

http://www.nationalreview.com/kerry/kerryspot.asp


4 posted on 09/10/2004 2:56:18 PM PDT by jaycost
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To: jaycost
So, they are suggesting that the office equipment at the White House would be of the same quality as the office equipment at the Texas Air Nationl Guard base where Bush was stationed?

-PJ

5 posted on 09/10/2004 2:57:00 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: jaycost

"* The memos were written using a proportional typeface, where letters take up variable space according to their size, rather than fixed-pitch typeface used on typewriters, where each letter is allotted the same space. Proportional typefaces are available only on computers or on very high-end typewriters that were unlikely to be used by the National Guard.

* The memos include superscript, i.e. the "th" in "187th" appears above the line in a smaller font. Superscript was not available on typrwriters.

* The memos inclued "curly" apostrophes rather than straight apostrophes found on typewriters.

* The font used in the memos is Times Roman, which was in use for printing but not in typewriters. The Haas Atlas--the bible of fonts--does not list Times Roman as an available font for typewriters.

* The vertical spacing used in the memos, measured at 13 points, is not available in typewriters, and only became possible with the advent of computers."


6 posted on 09/10/2004 2:57:43 PM PDT by need_a_screen_name
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To: jaycost

Don't you find it a little odd that there's only one superscript "th" on that report...all the others are in regular type.


7 posted on 09/10/2004 2:57:50 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: jaycost
STUPID CBS!


8 posted on 09/10/2004 2:58:58 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (ANY U.S. Soldier's Blood Worth Tiptoeing ANYMORE Around Middle Eastern "Holy" Cities or Mosques???)
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To: dawn53

In a word - yes!


9 posted on 09/10/2004 2:59:34 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: jaycost

what page on the pdf is it on i cant find .... its like 17 pages long...


10 posted on 09/10/2004 2:59:40 PM PDT by FesterUSMC
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ITs highly arguable that superscript is even printed by a typewrite or even a machine, it is ver blurry and you cant quite make out what it is, you look at it and assume you are looking at a th. Could have been a mistake whiteouted over and then the th penned in.

Either way the type is completely wrong.


11 posted on 09/10/2004 3:00:04 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: FesterUSMC; jaycost

Not only that, but the pdf is in a USAToday dot com link.

Ya think maybe Michael Moore "produced" it?


12 posted on 09/10/2004 3:01:01 PM PDT by Neets (Conservative women LOVE BURLEY MEN, not GIRLIE DEMS.!)
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It's not enough to find a document from the era with the "th" superscript. There may well have been some even many typewriters capable of printing the "th" superscript in 1968. But the question is, were there any typewriters capable of printing the "th" superscript within the limited universe of machines that could also have produced the document in question? Thus pointing to a document with courier font for example and a superscripted 'th' will prove nothing whatsoever because the document in question was typed by a machine within a completely different category of typewriters.


13 posted on 09/10/2004 3:01:27 PM PDT by MMkennedy
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To: jaycost

There is a superscripted TH available on some typewriters. I questionned this yesterday. However, the TH superscript in the legit Bush documents is the result of a wing-ding key, as I speculated yesterday. The two letters are crushed together and do not extend above the top line of the standard, tall characters. This is plainly unrelated to the superscript on the forged documents.


14 posted on 09/10/2004 3:02:45 PM PDT by dangus
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Not news; you can find a couple of superscript "th"s in http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/9-Miscellaneous.pdf

Superscript "th"s are just one of many things that need explaining in the memos. And they just keep coming. The fact that you can create an identical document in Word using default fonts, spacing and margins seals the deal: it's a forgery.


15 posted on 09/10/2004 3:04:11 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: jaycost
rather doesn't care that the docs are fake,he knows they are.

"It's the seriousness of the charge" that matters.

rather will give the docs minimal time,then spend the rest of the time demanding President Bush answer these serious charges.

Facts be damned,this is dem 101.

16 posted on 09/10/2004 3:05:25 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve to keep us free.)
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To: MMkennedy
you can tell the pdf show in this link WAS made by a typewriter, the other one was made by WORD!!!! I KNOW BECAUSE I PRINTED OUT THE CBS PDF AND MADE A WORD DOCUMENT AND ITS AN EXACT MATCH! if it was a typewriter the tolerances involved would NOT allow for a perfect match
17 posted on 09/10/2004 3:05:26 PM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

And you can also see that most of the "th"'s were not superscripted, but were jsut typed in line as in "4th"


18 posted on 09/10/2004 3:06:17 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: jaycost

http://www.nationalreview.com/kerry/kerryspot.asp


19 posted on 09/10/2004 3:06:18 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: jaycost
Hmm.. Seems odd as it is the only superscript "th" on the document that is superscript. All other "th" following 111, or any other number, are the same as the Rather hoax.
20 posted on 09/10/2004 3:06:44 PM PDT by Tweaker
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